RE: ferritin/iron saturation question in reference to my daughter

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ferritin 79

iron saturation 14 (15-55) range

Val:

You indicated she is anemic. How do these two numbers correlate

and how do they relate to the thyroid. She is hypo and has a TSH

of 5.240. rT3 was dropped by the lab.

September 5, 2010

Hypo causes inflammation all by itself. So does Hashi's

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

How do we figure out the source of inflammation/infection,

especially when she hasn't been sick? She last had a cold in May.

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:39:36 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

The ferritin is a good number but st

is falsely elevated from either infection or inflammation. I

know this because the % saturation is WAY too low. Thsi

should be at least 35% and indicated very lwo iron. With lwo

iron the body cannto utilize thyrid hormones properly. It si

a HUGE cause of RT3 adn will prevent people from optimizing

on T3 and can give some horrid symtooms including anxiety

and adrenal symptoms.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

ferritin 79

iron saturation 14 (15-55) range

Val:

You indicated she is anemic. How do these two numbers

correlate and how do they relate to the thyroid. She is

hypo and has a TSH of 5.240. rT3 was dropped by the lab.

September 5, 2010

Her thyroid antibodies test were low. TPO was <6 (0-21) and Antithyroglobulin Ab was <20 (0-40). Would that be sufficient to rule out Hashi's?To: RT3_T3 From: artisticgroomer@...Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:32:42 -0400Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in reference to my daughter

Hypo causes inflammation all by itself. So does Hashi's

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

How do we figure out the source of inflammation/infection,

especially when she hasn't been sick? She last had a cold in May.

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:39:36 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

The ferritin is a good number but st

is falsely elevated from either infection or inflammation. I

know this because the % saturation is WAY too low. Thsi

should be at least 35% and indicated very lwo iron. With lwo

iron the body cannto utilize thyrid hormones properly. It si

a HUGE cause of RT3 adn will prevent people from optimizing

on T3 and can give some horrid symtooms including anxiety

and adrenal symptoms.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

ferritin 79

iron saturation 14 (15-55) range

Val:

You indicated she is anemic. How do these two numbers

correlate and how do they relate to the thyroid. She is

hypo and has a TSH of 5.240. rT3 was dropped by the lab.

September 6, 2010

I do nto think ANY lab truly can rule OUT Hashi's. Onyl confirm it

positively when the antibodies are present. hashi antibodies are nto

present in measureable amounts all the itme. Mine were non existent

for over 20 years but I had them at 19 years old then agian abotu 4

years ago when I tried iodine they went through the roof. Other than

then I cane out negative so I tend ot not believe the negative

results.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Her thyroid antibodies test were low. TPO was <6 (0-21) and

Antithyroglobulin Ab was <20 (0-40). Would that be sufficient

to rule out Hashi's?

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:32:42 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

Hypo causes inflammation all by

itself. So does Hashi's

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

How do we figure out the source of inflammation/infection,

especially when she hasn't been sick? She last had a cold

in May.

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:39:36 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

The ferritin is a good number

but st is falsely elevated from either infection or

inflammation. I know this because the % saturation

is WAY too low. Thsi should be at least 35% and

indicated very lwo iron. With lwo iron the body

cannto utilize thyrid hormones properly. It si a

HUGE cause of RT3 adn will prevent people from

optimizing on T3 and can give some horrid symtooms

including anxiety and adrenal symptoms.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

ferritin 79

iron saturation 14 (15-55) range

Val:

You indicated she is anemic. How do these two

numbers correlate and how do they relate to the

thyroid. She is hypo and has a TSH of 5.240. rT3

was dropped by the lab.

September 6, 2010

We're doing blood work again next week. We're doing rT3, free T3, a multi-panel which includes CMP14, LP, TSH, 5AC, CBC/D.PLT, UA, GRP, and A1C, Insulin, and C-reactive protein. I'm also adding the DNA methylization test for Lyme's. Anything else to figure out what is going on with her so we can eventually start her on thyroid meds?She has started on vit. D, but that's it. Should I also start her on a plant based iron? (I attached her labs from the other day)vit. D 24.7 (32-100)sodium 142 (135-145)carbon dioxide 18 (20-32)alkaline phosphates 393 (100-400)LDH 295 (100-250)ALT (SGPT) 47 (0-40)Iron Saturation 14 (15-55)Ferritin, Serum 79 (13-150)C-reactive protein, cardiac 12.52 (0-3)TSH 5.240 (.660-4.140)T4 8.5 (4.5-12)T3 Uptake 28 (22-35)Free T4 2.4 (1.2-4.9)Neutrophils 73 (22-60)Lymphs 20 (28-66)Neutrophils (Absolute) 7.8 (1.2-5.2)Eos (Absolute) .4 (0.0-0.3)To: RT3_T3 From: artisticgroomer@...Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 04:15:15 -0400Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in reference to my daughter

I do nto think ANY lab truly can rule OUT Hashi's. Onyl confirm it

positively when the antibodies are present. hashi antibodies are nto

present in measureable amounts all the itme. Mine were non existent

for over 20 years but I had them at 19 years old then agian abotu 4

years ago when I tried iodine they went through the roof. Other than

then I cane out negative so I tend ot not believe the negative

results.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Her thyroid antibodies test were low. TPO was <6 (0-21) and

Antithyroglobulin Ab was <20 (0-40). Would that be sufficient

to rule out Hashi's?

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:32:42 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

Hypo causes inflammation all by

itself. So does Hashi's

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

How do we figure out the source of inflammation/infection,

especially when she hasn't been sick? She last had a cold

in May.

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:39:36 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

The ferritin is a good number

but st is falsely elevated from either infection or

inflammation. I know this because the % saturation

is WAY too low. Thsi should be at least 35% and

indicated very lwo iron. With lwo iron the body

cannto utilize thyrid hormones properly. It si a

HUGE cause of RT3 adn will prevent people from

optimizing on T3 and can give some horrid symtooms

including anxiety and adrenal symptoms.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

ferritin 79

iron saturation 14 (15-55) range

Val:

You indicated she is anemic. How do these two

numbers correlate and how do they relate to the

thyroid. She is hypo and has a TSH of 5.240. rT3

was dropped by the lab.

September 6, 2010

Only one I can think of, a saliva cortisol lab.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

We're doing blood work again next week. We're doing rT3, free T3,

a multi-panel which includes CMP14, LP, TSH, 5AC, CBC/D.PLT, UA,

GRP, and A1C, Insulin, and C-reactive protein. I'm also adding the

DNA methylization test for Lyme's. Anything else to figure out

what is going on with her so we can eventually start her on

thyroid meds?

She has started on vit. D, but that's it. Should I also start her

on a plant based iron? (I attached her labs from the other day)

vit. D 24.7 (32-100)

sodium 142 (135-145)

carbon dioxide 18 (20-32)

alkaline phosphates 393 (100-400)

LDH 295 (100-250)

ALT (SGPT) 47 (0-40)

Iron Saturation 14 (15-55)

Ferritin, Serum 79 (13-150)

C-reactive protein, cardiac 12.52 (0-3)

TSH 5.240 (.660-4.140)

T4 8.5 (4.5-12)

T3 Uptake 28 (22-35)

Free T4 2.4 (1.2-4.9)

Neutrophils 73 (22-60)

Lymphs 20 (28-66)

Neutrophils (Absolute) 7.8 (1.2-5.2)

Eos (Absolute) .4 (0.0-0.3)

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 04:15:15 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

I do nto think ANY lab truly can rule

OUT Hashi's. Onyl confirm it positively when the antibodies

are present. hashi antibodies are nto present in measureable

amounts all the itme. Mine were non existent for over 20

years but I had them at 19 years old then agian abotu 4

years ago when I tried iodine they went through the roof.

Other than then I cane out negative so I tend ot not believe

the negative results.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Her thyroid antibodies test were low. TPO was <6 (0-21)

and Antithyroglobulin Ab was <20 (0-40). Would that be

sufficient to rule out Hashi's?

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:32:42 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

Hypo causes inflammation all

by itself. So does Hashi's

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

How do we figure out the source of

inflammation/infection, especially when she hasn't

been sick? She last had a cold in May.

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:39:36 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation

question in reference to my daughter

The ferritin is a good

number but st is falsely elevated from

either infection or inflammation. I know

this because the % saturation is WAY too

low. Thsi should be at least 35% and

indicated very lwo iron. With lwo iron the

body cannto utilize thyrid hormones

properly. It si a HUGE cause of RT3 adn will

prevent people from optimizing on T3 and can

give some horrid symtooms including anxiety

and adrenal symptoms.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

ferritin 79

iron saturation 14 (15-55) range

Val:

You indicated she is anemic. How do these

two numbers correlate and how do they

relate to the thyroid. She is hypo and has

a TSH of 5.240. rT3 was dropped by the

lab.

September 6, 2010

That's something I can order, correct? I'll probably need to do that on the weekend when she's not at school.Thanks,To: RT3_T3 From: artisticgroomer@...Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 15:55:15 -0400Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in reference to my daughter

Only one I can think of, a saliva cortisol lab.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

We're doing blood work again next week. We're doing rT3, free T3,

a multi-panel which includes CMP14, LP, TSH, 5AC, CBC/D.PLT, UA,

GRP, and A1C, Insulin, and C-reactive protein. I'm also adding the

DNA methylization test for Lyme's. Anything else to figure out

what is going on with her so we can eventually start her on

thyroid meds?

She has started on vit. D, but that's it. Should I also start her

on a plant based iron? (I attached her labs from the other day)

vit. D 24.7 (32-100)

sodium 142 (135-145)

carbon dioxide 18 (20-32)

alkaline phosphates 393 (100-400)

LDH 295 (100-250)

ALT (SGPT) 47 (0-40)

Iron Saturation 14 (15-55)

Ferritin, Serum 79 (13-150)

C-reactive protein, cardiac 12.52 (0-3)

TSH 5.240 (.660-4.140)

T4 8.5 (4.5-12)

T3 Uptake 28 (22-35)

Free T4 2.4 (1.2-4.9)

Neutrophils 73 (22-60)

Lymphs 20 (28-66)

Neutrophils (Absolute) 7.8 (1.2-5.2)

Eos (Absolute) .4 (0.0-0.3)

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 04:15:15 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

I do nto think ANY lab truly can rule

OUT Hashi's. Onyl confirm it positively when the antibodies

are present. hashi antibodies are nto present in measureable

amounts all the itme. Mine were non existent for over 20

years but I had them at 19 years old then agian abotu 4

years ago when I tried iodine they went through the roof.

Other than then I cane out negative so I tend ot not believe

the negative results.

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Her thyroid antibodies test were low. TPO was <6 (0-21)

and Antithyroglobulin Ab was <20 (0-40). Would that be

sufficient to rule out Hashi's?

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 19:32:42 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation question in

reference to my daughter

Hypo causes inflammation all

by itself. So does Hashi's

http://www.nthadrenalsweb.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

How do we figure out the source of

inflammation/infection, especially when she hasn't

been sick? She last had a cold in May.

To: RT3_T3

From: artisticgroomer@...

Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 18:39:36 -0400

Subject: Re: ferritin/iron saturation

question in reference to my daughter

The ferritin is a good

number but st is falsely elevated from

either infection or inflammation. I know

this because the % saturation is WAY too

low. Thsi should be at least 35% and

indicated very lwo iron. With lwo iron the

body cannto utilize thyrid hormones

properly. It si a HUGE cause of RT3 adn will

prevent people from optimizing on T3 and can

give some horrid symtooms including anxiety

and adrenal symptoms.