Re: Val - I can't tell if I'm hyper/drop more HC or too much T3?

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Hate to say ti but it may be time for thyroid labs to help sort this

one out. I woudl TRY a stress dose for today to get this party behind

oyu. A bit high coritl sfor a dya is betyter than risking falling too

low and recrashign adrenals.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val, I'm now 7 weeks out, readjusted my HC dose down to 25 mg and 75

mcg T3 (see below our emails to each other), and I was feeling good

again after things going weird on me a few weeks ago. The last 3 days

I've been stressed out, nervous and shakey occasionally. My bp has

been anywhere from 120/70 - 140/85 and pulse anywhere from 75 up to

100. Yesterday was bad, I had to deal with some stressful stuff and

took a xanax to chill out, today hasn't been much better but I didn't

take a xanax, just road it out. Tomorrow will be another stressful

day, having a huge birthday bbq for my oldest son with about 30 people

and I was so wiped out today by the last 2 days I could hardly move,

just wanted to sleep/very tired. Obviously I need to be on tomorrow,

thank God for my husband, he's been taking care of 95% of stuff that

needs done before this big bash.

Girl I don't know if I'm coming or going, do I need more/less HC

or more/less T3 or just head for the hills until after the party;-)

Additional info. My temps have been weird since July 1 and are

as follows:

98.6

99.0

98.7

98.6

98.6

98.3

98.3

98.5

98.5

98.8 yesterday (it was hot here - stressed out/took xanax)

99.0 today (hot again today - stressed out/no xanax)

Kem in Eugene

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Re:

Val/Nick - somethings going on that's weird

Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@...

valharly

Tue

Jun 22, 2010 3:43 am (PDT)

Because

over all your symptoms point MORE to high cortils than to high

thyroid.

High P and HIgh PUlse BOTH can be form CORTISOL being too high.

The

temps look pretty satble except for ONE day. The other two are in

line

wiht each other just a tad high. POFTEN as we clear the receptors

of

RT3 the cortils needs go dow quickly., Bleieve me I tried with T3

changes

at first too and it wa weong, it was the HC.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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6/21/2010 11:45 PM, Kem Tillford wrote:

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Val I'm just getting your email so didn't see your suggestion to lower

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HC. Can you explain why the HC should be lowered cause I don't

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understand, I thought bouncing temps meant not enough HC? My 9am dose

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is 10, noon is 10, 3pm is 7.5 and 6pm is 2.5 I've been getting good

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steady temps since April 27, a month prior to starting T3. I thought

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T3 made temps go up and HC kept them steady. Is it normal to have a

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need to taper off HC when taking 25, 25, 25, 18.25 T3 in week 4?

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Since I'm just reading your email now I thought I was doing the right

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thing by not taking my last dose of cynomel - but I did take my last

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dose of 2.5 HC and whatever was going on with hyper feeling & heart

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pounding seemed to calm down. Just took my BP and it is 139/85 but my

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pulse is still 92. Usually my pulse runs 75 - 90.

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>

Thanks for any insights you have on this Val, I appreciate it. I'd

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love to know what are you seeing that suggests I should lower HC and

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need to know when and how much?

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>

Kem

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> valharly <http://profiles.yahoo.com/valharly>

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Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:36 pm (PDT)

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I would try lowering cortisol FIRST.

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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/>

> http://faqhelp.webs.com/

<http://faqhelp.webs.com/>

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> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/>

> http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

<http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/>

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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>

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> Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for

sure.

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> My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to

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> fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one

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> day, tired the next, etc.

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> June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was continually

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> exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.

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> My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're

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acting up.

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> On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with

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> headache all day...thus the T3 raise.

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> On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy all

day.

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> On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did

some

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> laundry, bit of housework.

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> On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and didn't

do

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> much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.

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> Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt right

all

>

> day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day. Been sort

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> of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating hard (this

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> is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they are

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> higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,

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> 143/85 - pulse 92

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> Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays last

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> dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm taking

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> 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty

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> steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I

do???

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> Kem in Eugene

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> <º)))><>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kem,

Jost wondering, where are you in your cycle. When I have my period, I up my

iron as this is what has been happening to me too, I have been on T3 only since

May 1st. I think with me, it is the low iron and B12 that causes the exhaustion

since it is right about that time when I have experienced it.

Have fun at the party, try and relax and enjoy!!! Give hubby extra lovins, you

are blessed to have someone who understands!

Donna

http://honey-please-do-list.blogspot.com/

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> > > >

> > > > Val or Nick, I think I've gone hyper, something is going on for sure.

> > > > My rt3 ratio was 16.7. On T3 for 4 weeks now and have raised due to

> > > > fatigue and other hypo symptoms. Been sort of bumpy, feel good one

> > > > day, tired the next, etc.

> > > >

> > > > June 17 I raised T3 to 25, 25, 25, 18.25 because I was continually

> > > > exhausted and staying in bed. Unable to function.

> > > >

> > > > My temps have been holding steady but last couple days they're

> > > acting up.

> > > >

> > > > On the 17th my avg. temp was at 98.4 and was tired, drowsy with

> > > > headache all day...thus the T3 raise.

> > > > On the 18th my avg. temp was at 98.3 and was tired and drowsy all day.

> > > > On the 19th my avg. temp jumped to 98.8, felt fine all day, did some

> > > > laundry, bit of housework.

> > > > On the 20th my ave. temp dumped to 97.9 was a bit tired and didn't do

> > > > much for Fathers day besides go out for dinner.

> > > > Today the 21st, avg temp today is 98.7 I just haven't felt right all

> > > > day. Have taken first 3 doses but not last dose for day. Been sort

> > > > of shakey but decent energy and not tired. Heart beating hard (this

> > > > is new) and I took 3 blood pressure readings today and they are

> > > > higher than normal for me. 140/90 - pulse 97, 152/86 - pulse 97,

> > > > 143/85 - pulse 92

> > > >

> > > > Am I getting to the hyper end of things? Should I skip todays last

> > > > dose? Should I go back to 25, 18.25, 25, 18.25 tomorrow? I'm taking

> > > > 30 mg HC and until last couple of days temps were holding pretty

> > > > steady, I don't want to jack up my adrenals now. What should I do???

> > > >

> > > > Kem in Eugene

> > > > <º)))><>>

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Got it. I woke up this morning and felt good, bp/pulse is good, no nervousness or fatigue. This may have been a fluke given the past few days were over the top stressful, will see how it plays out today. I'm seeing my GYN in 2 weeks and he always tests thyroid but not sure what to do regarding how much T3/HC to take until then. Any suggestions on that?<<Posted by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharlySun Jul 11, 2010 2:46 am (PDT)Hate to say ti but it may be time for thyroid labs to help sort this one out. I woudl TRY a stress dose for today to get this party behind oyu. A bit high coritl sfor a dya is betyter than risking falling too low and recrashign adrenals. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://faqhelp.webs.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/http://artisticgrooming.net/>>> Val, I'm now 7 weeks out, readjusted my HC dose down to 25 mg and 75 > mcg T3 (see below our emails to each other), and I was feeling good > again after things going weird on me a few weeks ago. The last 3 days > I've been stressed out, nervous and shakey occasionally. My bp has > been anywhere from 120/70 - 140/85 and pulse anywhere from 75 up to > 100. Yesterday was bad, I had to deal with some stressful stuff and > took a xanax to chill out, today hasn't been much better but I didn't > take a xanax, just road it out. Tomorrow will be another stressful > day, having a huge birthday bbq for my oldest son with about 30 people > and I was so wiped out today by the last 2 days I could hardly move, > just wanted to sleep/very tired. Obviously I need to be on tomorrow, > thank God for my husband, he's been taking care of 95% of stuff that > needs done before this big bash.>> Girl I don't know if I'm coming or going, do I need more/less HC or > more/less T3 or just head for the hills until after the party;-)>> Additional info. My temps have been weird since July 1 and are as > follows:>> 98.6> 99.0> 98.7> 98.6> 98.6> 98.3> 98.3> 98.5> 98.5> 98.8 yesterday (it was hot here - stressed out/took xanax)> 99.0 today (hot again today - stressed out/no xanax)>>> Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

[Guest guest]

Donna, I'm perimenopausal so my periods are spacing out 3 - 4 months at a time. My last one was June 7. I take iron and b12 daily. Back in the day I could tell what was going on there but am at a loss these days. Seeing gyn in a couple of weeks to have him run some tests on thyroid, vits, and female hormones to get a better picture.Kem<<Posted by: "Donna" a_r_d12885@... a_r_d12885Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:52 am (PDT)Hi Kem,Jost wondering, where are you in your cycle. When I have my period, I up my iron as this is what has been happening to me too, I have been on T3 only since May 1st. I think with me, it is the low iron and B12 that causes the exhaustion since it is right about that time when I have experienced it.Have fun at the party, try and relax and enjoy!!! Give hubby extra lovins, you are blessed to have someone who understands!Donnahttp://honey-please-do-list.blogspot.com/> >> >> > Val, I'm now 7 weeks out, readjusted my HC dose down to 25 mg and 75 > > mcg T3 (see below our emails to each other), and I was feeling good > > again after things going weird on me a few weeks ago. The last 3 days > > I've been stressed out, nervous and shakey occasionally. My bp has > > been anywhere from 120/70 - 140/85 and pulse anywhere from 75 up to > > 100. Yesterday was bad, I had to deal with some stressful stuff and > > took a xanax to chill out, today hasn't been much better but I didn't > > take a xanax, just road it out. Tomorrow will be another stressful > > day, having a huge birthday bbq for my oldest son with about 30 people > > and I was so wiped out today by the last 2 days I could hardly move, > > just wanted to sleep/very tired. Obviously I need to be on tomorrow, > > thank God for my husband, he's been taking care of 95% of stuff that > > needs done before this big bash.> >> > Girl I don't know if I'm coming or going, do I need more/less HC or > > more/less T3 or just head for the hills until after the party;-)> >> > Additional info. My temps have been weird since July 1 and are as > > follows:> >> > 98.6> > 99.0> > 98.7> > 98.6> > 98.6> > 98.3> > 98.3> > 98.5> > 98.5> > 98.8 yesterday (it was hot here - stressed out/took xanax)> > 99.0 today (hot again today - stressed out/no xanax)> >> >> > Kem in Eugene> > <º)))><>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

[Guest guest]

As long as you feel good, I owuld hold where you are till then.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

Got it. I woke up this morning and felt good, bp/pulse is good,

no nervousness or fatigue. This may have been a fluke given the past

few days were over the top stressful, will see how it plays out today.

I'm seeing my GYN in 2 weeks and he always tests thyroid but not sure

what to do regarding how much T3/HC to take until then. Any

suggestions on that?

<<Posted

by: " T" artisticgroomer@... valharly

Sun

Jul 11, 2010 2:46 am (PDT)

Hate to say ti but it may be time for thyroid labs to help sort this

one

out. I woudl TRY a stress dose for today to get this party behind oyu.

A

bit high coritl sfor a dya is betyter than risking falling too low and

recrashign adrenals.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

>

>

> Val, I'm now 7 weeks out, readjusted my HC dose down to 25 mg and

75

> mcg T3 (see below our emails to each other), and I was feeling

good

> again after things going weird on me a few weeks ago. The last 3

days

> I've been stressed out, nervous and shakey occasionally. My bp has

> been anywhere from 120/70 - 140/85 and pulse anywhere from 75 up

to

> 100. Yesterday was bad, I had to deal with some stressful stuff

and

> took a xanax to chill out, today hasn't been much better but I

didn't

> take a xanax, just road it out. Tomorrow will be another stressful

> day, having a huge birthday bbq for my oldest son with about 30

people

> and I was so wiped out today by the last 2 days I could hardly

move,

> just wanted to sleep/very tired. Obviously I need to be on

tomorrow,

> thank God for my husband, he's been taking care of 95% of stuff

that

> needs done before this big bash.

>

> Girl I don't know if I'm coming or going, do I need more/less HC

or

> more/less T3 or just head for the hills until after the party;-)

>

> Additional info. My temps have been weird since July 1 and are as

> follows:

>

> 98.6

> 99.0

> 98.7

> 98.6

> 98.6

> 98.3

> 98.3

> 98.5

> 98.5

> 98.8 yesterday (it was hot here - stressed out/took xanax)

> 99.0 today (hot again today - stressed out/no xanax)

>

>

> Kem in Eugene

> <º)))><>>

Kem in Eugene

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