Re: Re: To all forum members: a question about AD - VAL!(Ariela)

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Ariela,

I do believe mine is adrenal related. I'm taking a bedtime dose of hc and Cytomel. The Ambien wears off around 3:00 a.m., and sometimes I can go back to sleep and sometimes I can't. I really want to wean off of the Ambien and try to get some kind of natural sleep back. I'm glad you are sleeping much better! I truly believe if I could get the breathing thing licked, I could sleep better. On nights that the breathing has been better during the day, I seem to sleep better. Just really want to find some semblence of normalcy with this thing. I need a life back!

Thanks for your comments!

Subject: Re: To all forum members: a question about AD - VAL!To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 9:29 PM

Joan - Juat wanted to tell that your sleeping patters you describe sound like mine before starting HC:* I also could not sleep for days, longest time was a week without sleep. This was going on for four years I believe. * I also got to the the ER exhasted after not sleeping for a week, begging them to give me something to sleep. * I was terified of the bed, falling a sleep seemed like a huge task I have to struggle through every night. Every day when night came I started to feel anxious becuase I knew my daily struggle to fall a sleep is about to begin again. I took me approximatly 2-3 hours to succeed to fall a sleep. * Tried many kinds of sleep drugs and anti-anxiety drugs, both natural and synthetic. Some didn't help and with some I woke up feeling I didn't sleep at all.And after years this tremendous suffering, finally my problem was solved. I now have no sleeping problems at all: I fall a sleep easily, sleep 8-9

hours straight feeling pretty refreshe (as nuch as a hypo person can feel refreshed). What brought the big change was the HC. It simply vanished my sleeping problems in very short time.I am telling you all of this hoping it will help youa little. Even if you take HC, maybe the dosing is wrong. From my experience, HC could be the base for all your sleeping issues, as it was in my case. Ariela > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.> >>

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Kerry,

The thing is, the breathing was bad way before I started t3, and I was off ANY thryoid meds for a month before starting t3. I was feeling badly hypo then....very tired and still bad breathing.

THANKS!

Subject: Re: To all forum members: a question about AD - VAL!(Ariela)To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 11:56 PM

Have you experimented with dropping down on your T3 dose just to see if that helped with your breathing problems? I know you asked Val about dropping down because of your very low Ferritin, but I can't remember if you told her how bad your breathing problem was.Kerry> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.> > >> >>

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Thanks, Kathleen! Last night, I took a melatonin, a 5htp, my t3 (12.5 mcg), and 2.5 mg hc, as well as HALVING my Ambien for the first time since starting it, and I actually went to sleep! When I woke up at 3:00 a.m., I took another 5htp and went back to sleep! Yayyyyyyy!!!! Even though my ferritin has been low, I THINK I'm tolerating the bedtime dose of t3 well so far. Am testing ferritin and other levels tomorrow, so we will soon see how that looks!

Joan

Subject: Re: To all forum members: a question about AD - VAL!(Ariela)To: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 2:20 AM

Oh, wanted to add, and I HATE to say this as some people may kill me, but I can't tolerate t3 at bedtime. Believe me, I've tried. :-( Val told me she only sees this with people with low ferritin and mine was not high enough last I checked. Since you have low ferritin anyway, maybe this is an issue for you, too. The t3 just totally wakes me up if I try to take it at bed. Hopefully I will be able to do so in the future.Kathleen> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and

brain-zaps.> > >> >>

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If your breathing is bad, you might want to go see a pulmonologist who can test you right there in the office in two minutes. Very easy test, just blow into the contraption and it will read your breathing ability immediately.

<>Roni

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Subject: Re: To all forum members: a question about AD - VAL!(Ariela)To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 11:56 PM

Have you experimented with dropping down on your T3 dose just to see if that helped with your breathing problems? I know you asked Val about dropping down because of your very low Ferritin, but I can't remember if you told her how bad your breathing problem was.Kerry> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.> > >> >>

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Roni,

I was in the hospital for 3 days, and did all the pulmonary "blow" tests there. I have high blood ox sats,and they found nothing wrong with my lungs. From what everyone says, shortness of breath or air hunger is a symptom of being hypo. Dr. Lam also suggests that is a symptom of bad adrenals or AI. I am getting plenty of air, but there is just a sensation in my chest or lungs that feels like I need to breath deeper more. Like a tiredness that is only ok when I'm lying still in bed. Dr. Lam suggests that when the adrenals are shot, they downregulate every system in the body...sort of like when you're driving in 4th gear, and someone shifts you into 3rd gear. Very sluggish. So...I don't know. Doing all I know how to do from here to get my ferritin up, thyroid well functioning, adrenals supported, b12 shots, and taking d3. I would say it has gotten a little better, and some days I feel like

I'm finally healing....but then I will have a bad day or two, and it sets me back. Ugh.

Thanks for your input..............Joanie

From: kerry95959 <druskins (AT) jps (DOT) net>Subject: Re: To all forum members: a question about AD - VAL!(Ariela)To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 11:56 PM

Have you experimented with dropping down on your T3 dose just to see if that helped with your breathing problems? I know you asked Val about dropping down because of your very low Ferritin, but I can't remember if you told her how bad your breathing problem was.Kerry> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.> > >> >>