Re: Margery...Help?

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Iron: To see if iron is the problem, we need an additional measure, other than

ferritin, of iron to determine accurate iron status, an iron panel showing a %

saturation. (Ferritin can be falsely elevated by inflammation or other causes.)

A good % saturation is 35-45. Lower than this and low iron may be causing T3

intolerance.

Adrenals: We need a better picture of adrenal status. Since you can't get

tested yet, temperature graphing will have to do. Here's the link to Moderator

Nick's adrenal info page:

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

and the link to the temperature graphing info:

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph

This shows temperature stability, and adrenal status. If you can't test, this

is a must-do for determining correct adrenal support. I am not familiar with

Adren-All.

Your questions:

1. Everyone varies in when they feel relief. I do not think you should be

feeling worse; mildly hypo when due for a T3 dose increase is about what should

be happening. That's why I'm suspicious of iron and adrenal issues.

2. I believe some people get good results with iso-cort. But without adrenal

info such as temperature graphing, dosing is a guess. I do not take iso-cort and

am not qualified to be giving dosing suggestions. I can only say what I would

do: if I had as crappy a night as you did, I'd cut back on the Iso-cort until I

got more info. You should be able to get good info on this from the Adrenals

Group, here's the link:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

Unfortunately they are closed for a break right now, but will be re-opening

August 28th. Have your temp graph ready, I'd bet that's the first thing they'll

ask for!

3. I think this is good temperature improvement after only three weeks. They

will most likely continue to go up slowly.

You are only at week 3, so it seems a little early to worry about not feeling

better yet. BUT you should NOT be feeling worse. Iron and adrenals need

further checking.

If iron is a problem - are you taking enough? 250-200 mg elemental a day, taken

in at least two doses, taken at the same time as Vitamin C. Here is a link to

an iron that many here have had good results with:

http://www.iherb.com/Bluebonnet-Nutrition-Chelated-Iron-90-Vcaps/11571?at=0

If adrenals are a problem - this is getting a little out of my range of

knowledge, the adrenal group is the best place to get these answers.

Hope this helps.

>

> Hi,

>

> I am in my 3rd week of T3, cynomel, currently at 56.25mcg, going up 6.25 every

> 3-5 days. I was diagnosed hypo in May, took compounded thyroid for a couple

of

> months, still felt crappy, actually worse, so I decided to start the RT3, as

my

> ratio is 8.4. I am unclear as to when people start feeling a little better.

I

> am not yet. Issues to address:

>

> 1. Iron... Ferritin was 49 in beginning of July, have been taking iron

> regularly.

>

> 2. Adrenals...1 yr ago they were tested, came back some fatigue, so took

> Adren-All (Orthomolecular Labs) for 6 mos, re-tested last winter, they were

> doing better.

>

> My questions:

>

> 1. Is this too early to start feeling relief?

> 2. I just received some Isocort, and since I believe that even though the

> adrenals were jacked up last year, and showed improvement as long as 6 mos

ago,

> that a person who is an untreated hypo will burn out the adrenals again. I

> cannot get a new test for at least 2 mos, so I have to go by symptoms. So, I

> started Isocort yesterday, 3-3-1-1 recommended beginning dosing. I had a

> horrible night sleep (actually no sleep). OK?

> 3. My basal and daily temps have gone from 96.4 (starting T3), and now they

> consistently run around 97.4. This afternoon I had a 98.2, which is the

highest

> I remember my temp being. My BP is running around 114/70, pulse avg 80. I am

> drinking sea salt as recommended and since I have done that, I have no anxiety

> symptoms. Will my temps continue to gradually increase or should they be

higher

> by now?

>

> I guess since I'm not feeling any better yet (fibro/cfs/pain/rapid wt gain

> problems), I would like to make sure I am on the right track. I would feel

> crappy anyway, but this is just one more level of crappy!! Do symptoms start

> diminishing soon after starting the T3 or do they not start to diminish until

> closer to clearing? This is my 'last straw' so-to-speak, and I am hoping I am

> doing this correctly. I worry some because my iron was 'almost' OK...and

worry

> b/c my adrenal test is 6 mos old. I am having to go by symptoms for now.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Nanci

>