Re: Oh, no, low ft3 with no symptoms except temp/insulin resistence

[Guest guest]

Val,

Thanks for this extremely helpful explanation. What would be the numbers for

fasting blood sugar and A1C that would indicate there is slight insulin

resistance? Or is it necessary to test sugar throughout the day? I don't think

I've had any higher sugars, but want to check because of the stubborn weight

gain on T3 only.

Sherry

> >>

> >>> I had my husband do a blood work up since (a) he's into anti-aging

therapies and ( he's 41 now.

> >>>

> >>> Everything came up great except the A1c, which I figured would be bad

because he's been a vegetarian for a few years and eats way too many carbs,

including refined carbs. Fortunately, a blood glucose meter quickly changed his

habits and I am happy to report his pp1 and pp2 are both in the 90s now.

> >>>

> >>> But here's the kicker -- his thryoid labs.

> >>>

> >>> tsh 1.6 (.4 - 4.5)

> >>> ft4 1.4 (.8 - 1.8)

> >>> ft3 298 (230 - 420)

> >>>

> >>> didn't test rt3, but I can and will.

> >>>

> >>> I've seen this pattern before -- with myself, and I know it points to a

rt3 problem. Only I feel like CRAP with labs like this and he feels GREAT! I'm

not just saying this, he has absolutely NO hypo symptoms. Tons of energy, sleeps

great, doesn't even drink coffee (makes me sick), hikes and skies for 6-8 hours

a day. Works out and bikes daily. Never ever constipated, no high lipids. Thin.

I mean, he has NO symptoms -- except one. I tested his temp today at 1:30 and

it was only 97.3. Last year, his temp averages were great.

> >>>

> >>> So what the heck? It appears he's hypo, but the only symptom is low temp

-- so far anyway.

> >>>

> >>> Could the high BG the past few years have caused a rt3 problem.

> >>>

> >>> Only other thing I can think of is *maybe* he is running on high cortisol

and that's why he feels good still, as I know that high cortisol is the number

one cause of rt3 issues and conversion problem, although I don't think he has

any symptoms of high cortisol, either. Not overt ones anyway, he even sleeps

great, but those may take a while to show up.

> >>>

> >>> I don't want him to go down the path I've been on. :-( I'm wondering if we

can nip this in the bud, we can actually fix the rt3 problem.

> >>>

> >>> Besides saliva testing, what else should we be doing? iron panel, b12,

what else??

> >>>

> >>> Also, I hate to say this, but he started DHEA 25 mg for the past 6 months

or so since he was 40, the standard age that anti-aging experts say to start

DHEA. Should he stop that 2 weeks before testing?

> >>>

> >>> Terrified,

> >>> Kathleen

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ------------------------------------

> >>>

> >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

This is the site Jacki on the adrenal group always recommends and I have found

it VERY useful!

And yes, the site recommends testing yourself 8 times a day. My poor fingers

right now!! But it's worth it as I disovered I was on WAY too much HC.

I don't know if the site mentions A1c, but a truly good A1c is 5 or less.

Kathleen

> > >>

> > >>> I had my husband do a blood work up since (a) he's into anti-aging

therapies and ( he's 41 now.

> > >>>

> > >>> Everything came up great except the A1c, which I figured would be bad

because he's been a vegetarian for a few years and eats way too many carbs,

including refined carbs. Fortunately, a blood glucose meter quickly changed his

habits and I am happy to report his pp1 and pp2 are both in the 90s now.

> > >>>

> > >>> But here's the kicker -- his thryoid labs.

> > >>>

> > >>> tsh 1.6 (.4 - 4.5)

> > >>> ft4 1.4 (.8 - 1.8)

> > >>> ft3 298 (230 - 420)

> > >>>

> > >>> didn't test rt3, but I can and will.

> > >>>

> > >>> I've seen this pattern before -- with myself, and I know it points to a

rt3 problem. Only I feel like CRAP with labs like this and he feels GREAT! I'm

not just saying this, he has absolutely NO hypo symptoms. Tons of energy, sleeps

great, doesn't even drink coffee (makes me sick), hikes and skies for 6-8 hours

a day. Works out and bikes daily. Never ever constipated, no high lipids. Thin.

I mean, he has NO symptoms -- except one. I tested his temp today at 1:30 and

it was only 97.3. Last year, his temp averages were great.

> > >>>

> > >>> So what the heck? It appears he's hypo, but the only symptom is low temp

-- so far anyway.

> > >>>

> > >>> Could the high BG the past few years have caused a rt3 problem.

> > >>>

> > >>> Only other thing I can think of is *maybe* he is running on high

cortisol and that's why he feels good still, as I know that high cortisol is the

number one cause of rt3 issues and conversion problem, although I don't think he

has any symptoms of high cortisol, either. Not overt ones anyway, he even sleeps

great, but those may take a while to show up.

> > >>>

> > >>> I don't want him to go down the path I've been on. :-( I'm wondering if

we can nip this in the bud, we can actually fix the rt3 problem.

> > >>>

> > >>> Besides saliva testing, what else should we be doing? iron panel, b12,

what else??

> > >>>

> > >>> Also, I hate to say this, but he started DHEA 25 mg for the past 6

months or so since he was 40, the standard age that anti-aging experts say to

start DHEA. Should he stop that 2 weeks before testing?

> > >>>

> > >>> Terrified,

> > >>> Kathleen

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> ------------------------------------

> > >>>

> > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

This is the site Jacki on the adrenal group always recommends and I have found

it VERY useful!

And yes, the site recommends testing yourself 8 times a day. My poor fingers

right now!! But it's worth it as I disovered I was on WAY too much HC.

I don't know if the site mentions A1c, but a truly good A1c is 5 or less.

Kathleen

> > >>

> > >>> I had my husband do a blood work up since (a) he's into anti-aging

therapies and ( he's 41 now.

> > >>>

> > >>> Everything came up great except the A1c, which I figured would be bad

because he's been a vegetarian for a few years and eats way too many carbs,

including refined carbs. Fortunately, a blood glucose meter quickly changed his

habits and I am happy to report his pp1 and pp2 are both in the 90s now.

> > >>>

> > >>> But here's the kicker -- his thryoid labs.

> > >>>

> > >>> tsh 1.6 (.4 - 4.5)

> > >>> ft4 1.4 (.8 - 1.8)

> > >>> ft3 298 (230 - 420)

> > >>>

> > >>> didn't test rt3, but I can and will.

> > >>>

> > >>> I've seen this pattern before -- with myself, and I know it points to a

rt3 problem. Only I feel like CRAP with labs like this and he feels GREAT! I'm

not just saying this, he has absolutely NO hypo symptoms. Tons of energy, sleeps

great, doesn't even drink coffee (makes me sick), hikes and skies for 6-8 hours

a day. Works out and bikes daily. Never ever constipated, no high lipids. Thin.

I mean, he has NO symptoms -- except one. I tested his temp today at 1:30 and

it was only 97.3. Last year, his temp averages were great.

> > >>>

> > >>> So what the heck? It appears he's hypo, but the only symptom is low temp

-- so far anyway.

> > >>>

> > >>> Could the high BG the past few years have caused a rt3 problem.

> > >>>

> > >>> Only other thing I can think of is *maybe* he is running on high

cortisol and that's why he feels good still, as I know that high cortisol is the

number one cause of rt3 issues and conversion problem, although I don't think he

has any symptoms of high cortisol, either. Not overt ones anyway, he even sleeps

great, but those may take a while to show up.

> > >>>

> > >>> I don't want him to go down the path I've been on. :-( I'm wondering if

we can nip this in the bud, we can actually fix the rt3 problem.

> > >>>

> > >>> Besides saliva testing, what else should we be doing? iron panel, b12,

what else??

> > >>>

> > >>> Also, I hate to say this, but he started DHEA 25 mg for the past 6

months or so since he was 40, the standard age that anti-aging experts say to

start DHEA. Should he stop that 2 weeks before testing?

> > >>>

> > >>> Terrified,

> > >>> Kathleen

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> ------------------------------------

> > >>>

> > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

[Guest guest]

Kathleen:

What site? I can't find a link?

Terri

> > > >>

> > > >>> I had my husband do a blood work up since (a) he's into anti-aging

therapies and ( he's 41 now.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Everything came up great except the A1c, which I figured would be bad

because he's been a vegetarian for a few years and eats way too many carbs,

including refined carbs. Fortunately, a blood glucose meter quickly changed his

habits and I am happy to report his pp1 and pp2 are both in the 90s now.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> But here's the kicker -- his thryoid labs.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> tsh 1.6 (.4 - 4.5)

> > > >>> ft4 1.4 (.8 - 1.8)

> > > >>> ft3 298 (230 - 420)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> didn't test rt3, but I can and will.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I've seen this pattern before -- with myself, and I know it points to

a rt3 problem. Only I feel like CRAP with labs like this and he feels GREAT! I'm

not just saying this, he has absolutely NO hypo symptoms. Tons of energy, sleeps

great, doesn't even drink coffee (makes me sick), hikes and skies for 6-8 hours

a day. Works out and bikes daily. Never ever constipated, no high lipids. Thin.

I mean, he has NO symptoms -- except one. I tested his temp today at 1:30 and

it was only 97.3. Last year, his temp averages were great.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> So what the heck? It appears he's hypo, but the only symptom is low

temp -- so far anyway.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Could the high BG the past few years have caused a rt3 problem.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Only other thing I can think of is *maybe* he is running on high

cortisol and that's why he feels good still, as I know that high cortisol is the

number one cause of rt3 issues and conversion problem, although I don't think he

has any symptoms of high cortisol, either. Not overt ones anyway, he even sleeps

great, but those may take a while to show up.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> I don't want him to go down the path I've been on. :-( I'm wondering

if we can nip this in the bud, we can actually fix the rt3 problem.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Besides saliva testing, what else should we be doing? iron panel, b12,

what else??

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Also, I hate to say this, but he started DHEA 25 mg for the past 6

months or so since he was 40, the standard age that anti-aging experts say to

start DHEA. Should he stop that 2 weeks before testing?

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Terrified,

> > > >>> Kathleen

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> ------------------------------------

> > > >>>

> > > >>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.