BUMPRe: bunch of new labwork

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Your adrenal labs look pretty good. I would only take maybe some

rhodiola am and PM for these levels. Your Thyroi d labs are near perfect

for cleariung Rt3 and being on T3 onyl. ou r BP is runnign a tad on the

low soide and your electrolytes look liek you could sue some

mineralcorticoid support. Maybe a little licorice root in the Am along

wiht lots of salt. Your SEX hormones are horrible! You need all three.

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>> hi val,

>> i posted my brand new cortisol results on the adrenals page, heres a link so

you can reference those for a big picture

>>

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/message/1806\

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> they are basically slightly over range in the am, normal at noon, high in

range in evening, and below range at midnight. i moved my bedtime dose of t3 to

the next morning, i start getting sleepy around 9-10 and i fall asleep so

quickly, if i am out driving it is even hard to keep my eyes open, like my body

is just shutting down whether i like it or not,lol.

> took my blood pressure last night and it was low...98/68, hr 81, then rose to

113/70 upon standing.

> just now (at 3pm... )i took it and it was 118/78, then i stood up and it was

113/54. right now my heartrate is over 100 and i have not taken any salt yet. i

know when i do it will help my heartrate.

>

>> but as far as everything else, i just got my new labs back

>> the rbc potass, and aldo are not finished yet, so i will post those when i

get them.

>>

>> here they are, could you help me interpret please? i'd be so grateful for

your help val

>>

>> tsh .oo5 o.45-4.5

>> ft4 .07 .82-1.77

>> ft3 6.1 2-4.4

>>

>> tibc 288 250-450

>> uibc 186 150-375

>> iron,s 102 35-155

>> iron sat 35 15-55

>>

>> potass RBC will follow

>>

>> sodium, serum 139 135-145

>> potass, serum 4.7 3.5-5.2

>>

>> aldost will follow

>>

>> i was on 112mcg t3 at the time,

>> felt slight slight hypo symptoms, like i could stand for a tad more, so i

bumped it to 125mcg just yesterday, not sure if it will stick or not.

>>

>> what do you think?

>>

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Yes estrogen and progesterine are readily available, Progesterone can

be had in any pharmacy or health store. Estrogne from many of the same

sites we order other meds from. If going wiht biolidenticla I used ot

liekoestrogel as it si a gel form easily absorbed and seeems ot work

well for women that Estradiol works well for. I take Premarin which I

order over seas as it works better for me.

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> ok, yeah, the sex hormones was the last thing i was going to work on, so it

looks like it is way overdue...

> i have some estrodiol patches and some progesterone pills, and some remaining

testosterone cream from my former doctor... i will check on the doses of those

and post on the adrenals page for guidance on what to take and when.

>

> i was curious, val... i have just kind of fell out of touch with my doctor and

gone on my own for a while, his ego takes quite a bit of energy to handle. are

there sources for estrogen and progesterone without a prescription? i seem to

remember reading that testosterone is the only one you HAVE to have a script

for. is this true?

>

> per the thyroid labs, yes i feel great in general on this dose. i never

thought i'd make it to 112mcg, and tolerate it, but here i am. feels nice:)

> i will follow up with aldosterone/rbc potass results when they come.

> i just cant get enough salt it feels like, lol.

> I'm so grateful to know which adaptogens to use now and when.

> thank you from the bottom of my heart. your help has been truly amazing.

>

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>>>> hi val,

>>>> i posted my brand new cortisol results on the adrenals page, heres a link

so you can reference those for a big picture

>>>>

>>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/message/1806\

57

>>> they are basically slightly over range in the am, normal at noon, high in

range in evening, and below range at midnight. i moved my bedtime dose of t3 to

the next morning, i start getting sleepy around 9-10 and i fall asleep so

quickly, if i am out driving it is even hard to keep my eyes open, like my body

is just shutting down whether i like it or not,lol.

>>> took my blood pressure last night and it was low...98/68, hr 81, then rose

to 113/70 upon standing.

>>> just now (at 3pm... )i took it and it was 118/78, then i stood up and it was

113/54. right now my heartrate is over 100 and i have not taken any salt yet. i

know when i do it will help my heartrate.

>>>

>>>> but as far as everything else, i just got my new labs back

>>>> the rbc potass, and aldo are not finished yet, so i will post those when i

get them.

>>>>

>>>> here they are, could you help me interpret please? i'd be so grateful for

your help val

>>>>

>>>> tsh .oo5 o.45-4.5

>>>> ft4 .07 .82-1.77

>>>> ft3 6.1 2-4.4

>>>>

>>>> tibc 288 250-450

>>>> uibc 186 150-375

>>>> iron,s 102 35-155

>>>> iron sat 35 15-55

>>>>

>>>> potass RBC will follow

>>>>

>>>> sodium, serum 139 135-145

>>>> potass, serum 4.7 3.5-5.2

>>>>

>>>> aldost will follow

>>>>

>>>> i was on 112mcg t3 at the time,

>>>> felt slight slight hypo symptoms, like i could stand for a tad more, so i

bumped it to 125mcg just yesterday, not sure if it will stick or not.

>>>>

>>>> what do you think?

>>>>

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You will need lots of sea salt but I do not think you will need

Florinef. It si not low en0ogh for that.

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> thank you val, i will check out some of those sites.

>

> i just recieved my aldosterone results....14.4 (1.0-16.0)

> adult (supine) 1-16

> adult (upright)4-31

> (i was sitting up and had been up for two hours, regular fasting and 24hour

salt fasting)

> what do you think?

> still waiting on RBC potassium results btw....

>

>

>>>>>> hi val,

>>>>>> i posted my brand new cortisol results on the adrenals page, heres a link

so you can reference those for a big picture

>>>>>>

>>>>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/message/1806\

57

>>>>> they are basically slightly over range in the am, normal at noon, high in

range in evening, and below range at midnight. i moved my bedtime dose of t3 to

the next morning, i start getting sleepy around 9-10 and i fall asleep so

quickly, if i am out driving it is even hard to keep my eyes open, like my body

is just shutting down whether i like it or not,lol.

>>>>> took my blood pressure last night and it was low...98/68, hr 81, then rose

to 113/70 upon standing.

>>>>> just now (at 3pm... )i took it and it was 118/78, then i stood up and it

was 113/54. right now my heartrate is over 100 and i have not taken any salt

yet. i know when i do it will help my heartrate.

>>>>>

>>>>>> but as far as everything else, i just got my new labs back

>>>>>> the rbc potass, and aldo are not finished yet, so i will post those when

i get them.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> here they are, could you help me interpret please? i'd be so grateful for

your help val

>>>>>>

>>>>>> tsh .oo5 o.45-4.5

>>>>>> ft4 .07 .82-1.77

>>>>>> ft3 6.1 2-4.4

>>>>>>

>>>>>> tibc 288 250-450

>>>>>> uibc 186 150-375

>>>>>> iron,s 102 35-155

>>>>>> iron sat 35 15-55

>>>>>>

>>>>>> potass RBC will follow

>>>>>>

>>>>>> sodium, serum 139 135-145

>>>>>> potass, serum 4.7 3.5-5.2

>>>>>>

>>>>>> aldost will follow

>>>>>>

>>>>>> i was on 112mcg t3 at the time,

>>>>>> felt slight slight hypo symptoms, like i could stand for a tad more, so i

bumped it to 125mcg just yesterday, not sure if it will stick or not.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> what do you think?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

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>>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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Having had an early hyst at 27 years old I have TONS of experince wiht

estrogen replacement. I also did tons of research over the years ont

this and found MOSt women thta had hysts ONLY get releif odf symtoims

with Premarin rather than bioidentical estadiol. I am no exceotion. I

had tons oif bleed through symptoms on bioidentical estrogens even the

combo ones and that tells me ther eis somethign in Premarin I need thta

is missing in the bio's. Having learned that the danger in Premarin was

hugely overblown as it was the synthetic Progestins that caused thei

issues in the test that was stopped I feel very comfortable taking it. I

do recommend ONLY bioidentical progesterone but ther eare many fine

brands of this and I look for cheap. Expensive does nto make a better

product. but I have not taken alot of progesterone products as I could

not for years though recently I am tolerating it well and am on Healthy

Choice Nutritionals cream.

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http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://artisticgrooming.net/

> THANK YOU VAL,

> great to know about the SHBG... as i'm sure i wouldve wondered what the heck

was going on!lol

> 1)i think i am going to order estrogel, but is there a reason you switched

that for premarin?

> 2)is there a form of progesterone you most recommend?... i checked out my main

source for supps and there are so many to choose from

> 3)i have been having wide variations in my BG val, and it worries me a bit....

for instance two nights ago it was 85, great. but then my fasting bg the other

morning was 110 (not quite immediately after i got up, but close). and my bg

just an hour ago was 136! this was taken about an hour and a half after eating

anything ...a tiny snack of cheese and pb, and i think i might have had some

crystal lite/sea salt water before. i didnt get enough sleep last night, due to

a death in my bf's family, so i wonder if stress is raising my cortisol, raising

my bg. should i be concerned? i eat very very low glycemic index already, cant

go lower . would you recommend metformin for someone like me?

>

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>>>>>>>>>> hi val,

>>>>>>>>>> i posted my brand new cortisol results on the adrenals page, heres a

link so you can reference those for a big picture

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/message/1806\

57

>>>>>>>>> they are basically slightly over range in the am, normal at noon, high

in range in evening, and below range at midnight. i moved my bedtime dose of t3

to the next morning, i start getting sleepy around 9-10 and i fall asleep so

quickly, if i am out driving it is even hard to keep my eyes open, like my body

is just shutting down whether i like it or not,lol.

>>>>>>>>> took my blood pressure last night and it was low...98/68, hr 81, then

rose to 113/70 upon standing.

>>>>>>>>> just now (at 3pm... )i took it and it was 118/78, then i stood up and

it was 113/54. right now my heartrate is over 100 and i have not taken any salt

yet. i know when i do it will help my heartrate.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> but as far as everything else, i just got my new labs back

>>>>>>>>>> the rbc potass, and aldo are not finished yet, so i will post those

when i get them.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> here they are, could you help me interpret please? i'd be so grateful

for your help val

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> tsh .oo5 o.45-4.5

>>>>>>>>>> ft4 .07 .82-1.77

>>>>>>>>>> ft3 6.1 2-4.4

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> tibc 288 250-450

>>>>>>>>>> uibc 186 150-375

>>>>>>>>>> iron,s 102 35-155

>>>>>>>>>> iron sat 35 15-55

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> potass RBC will follow

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> sodium, serum 139 135-145

>>>>>>>>>> potass, serum 4.7 3.5-5.2

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> aldost will follow

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> i was on 112mcg t3 at the time,

>>>>>>>>>> felt slight slight hypo symptoms, like i could stand for a tad more,

so i bumped it to 125mcg just yesterday, not sure if it will stick or not.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> what do you think?

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing our

experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent doctor.

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is,

I was worried about my BG, too, and like you, I can't possibly eat any lower

carb. Even protein raises my BG too much, so I started Metformin. Apparently,

it's extremely safe, been used in Europe for 30 years, even pregnant woman can

take it. Many even take it for anti-aging as most people become insulin

resistant to some extent as they age.

The stuff is AMAZING! It lowered my BG by 20 points within a couple of days and

I'm taking a very low dose, just 1000 mg a day, divided up. I actually take 1/2

with breakfast, 1 afternoon (my BG is highest then) and 1/2 dinner.

The only issue is that you can feel " false hypoG " for up to 2 weeks (from what

I've read on the blood sugar 101 site recmmended by mod Jacki on the adrenal

board) while your body adjusts to the lower BG levels, so maybe it's best to

start with an even lower dose, although 1000 mg is the recommended starting

dose.

I have seen Val recommend this to people, so maybe she can chime in.

Kathleen

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hi val,

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> i posted my brand new cortisol results on the adrenals page,

heres a link so you can reference those for a big picture

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/message/1806\

57

> > > >>>>>>>>>>> they are basically slightly over range in the am, normal at

noon, high in range in evening, and below range at midnight. i moved my bedtime

dose of t3 to the next morning, i start getting sleepy around 9-10 and i fall

asleep so quickly, if i am out driving it is even hard to keep my eyes open,

like my body is just shutting down whether i like it or not,lol.

> > > >>>>>>>>>>> took my blood pressure last night and it was low...98/68, hr

81, then rose to 113/70 upon standing.

> > > >>>>>>>>>>> just now (at 3pm... )i took it and it was 118/78, then i stood

up and it was 113/54. right now my heartrate is over 100 and i have not taken

any salt yet. i know when i do it will help my heartrate.

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but as far as everything else, i just got my new labs back

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the rbc potass, and aldo are not finished yet, so i will post

those when i get them.

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> here they are, could you help me interpret please? i'd be so

grateful for your help val

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> tsh .oo5 o.45-4.5

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ft4 .07 .82-1.77

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ft3 6.1 2-4.4

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> tibc 288 250-450

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> uibc 186 150-375

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> iron,s 102 35-155

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> iron sat 35 15-55

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> potass RBC will follow

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sodium, serum 139 135-145

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> potass, serum 4.7 3.5-5.2

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> aldost will follow

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> i was on 112mcg t3 at the time,

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> felt slight slight hypo symptoms, like i could stand for a

tad more, so i bumped it to 125mcg just yesterday, not sure if it will stick or

not.

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> what do you think?

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>

> > > >>>>>>>>>>> We are not medical professionals here, just patients sharing

our experiences. Please use this information with the help of a competent

doctor.