Re: 5th week and I'm a wreck!

[Guest guest]

When having problems oyu need ot stop supplements first and then

retest adrneals and IRON panel. Find out what the issue is as this

si not normal. I could wager a guess, btu that is not the way I like

to do things. But unstable temps is pointing to cortils problems,

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I'm in 5th week, at

62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the

mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches

which I never had before, I am wondering if I should add a

tiny bit of T4? My ratio was 11 before I started this

regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and

1 grain armour........I am wondering if I should have cut

down more graduallythe armour than just go on my own and

cut out totally armour, maybe this is my problem? I don't

know how much I can last feeling like this. My iron was

104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/day, and

I take isocort 4-4-1 although on isocort my saliva test

were normal more or less before i started this. My temps

are nothing stable.......please if you can guide me I

would be most grateful........

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my temps today: my temps yesterday:

10AM: 36.3 8AM: 36.2

11:15AM: 36.7

Noon: 36.5 12:30: 36.6

12:30: 35,5 2:15: 36.5

I am afraid to stop isocort (this would be for 2 weeks?), and if I do, what happens with the T3, do I stop this also?

I'm in 5th week, at 62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches which I never had before, I am wondering if I should add a tiny bit of T4? My ratio was 11 before I started this regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and 1 grain armour...... ..I am wondering if I should have cut down more graduallythe armour than just go on my own and cut out totally armour, maybe this is my problem? I don't know how much I can last feeling like this. My iron was 104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take isocort 4-4-1 although on isocort my saliva test were normal more or less before i started this. My temps are nothing stable...... .please if you can guide me I would be most grateful.... ....

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The other option is to tyr ot increase the Isocort. And yes to get

off Isocort when having these asymptpoms would be rough and you

would probabyl need to wean the T3 ot a minute dose.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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my temps today:                                   my

temps yesterday:

10AM:   36.3                                         

8AM:   36.2

                                                          

11:15AM:  36.7

Noon:  

36.5                                           12:30:   

36.6

12:30:   35,5                                            2:15:    

36.5

 

I am afraid to stop isocort (this would be for 2

weeks?), and if I do, what happens with the T3, do I

stop this also? 

I'm in 5th week, at

62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am

groggy in the mornings, my hair is very

dry now, I have slight headaches which I

never had before, I am wondering if I

should add a tiny bit of T4?  My ratio

was 11 before I started this regimen,

the doctor had suggested I only take

12.5 T3 and 1 grain armour...... ..I am

wondering if I should have cut down more

graduallythe armour  than just go on my

own and cut out totally armour, maybe

this is my problem?  I don't know how

much I can last feeling like this.  My

iron was 104 before I started and I take

now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take

isocort 4-4-1  although on isocort my

saliva test were normal more or less

before i started this. My temps are

nothing stable...... .please if you can

guide me I would be most grateful....

..... 

[Guest guest]

I went through this, especially the groggy mornings. They really scared me. But, the answer is that you are clearly not taking enough T3. This resolved itself for me when I started adding more medication. I am now at 8 weeks and I take 100 mcg. per day, split into 2 - 37.5 mcg. doses and 1 - 25 mcg. dose at 10:00 PM, with no problem sleeping. I am thinking of adding a little more at this point. I read a post about taking the meds in 3 doses, approximately 8 hours apart, instead of taking it in smaller doses over the course of the day. I felt better and less stressed about remembering to take that many doses. Don't be afraid. Up your dose. It's clear you need to. You should feel better.

Subject: 5th week and I'm a wreck!To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 9:14 AM

I'm in 5th week, at 62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches which I never had before, I am wondering if I should add a tiny bit of T4? My ratio was 11 before I started this regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and 1 grain armour...... ..I am wondering if I should have cut down more graduallythe armour than just go on my own and cut out totally armour, maybe this is my problem? I don't know how much I can last feeling like this. My iron was 104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take isocort 4-4-1 although on isocort my saliva test were normal more or less before i started this. My temps are nothing stable...... .please if you can guide me I would be most grateful.... ....

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathleen, it's really scary to feel like that, with all the problems I had and feeling miserable I never felt like this.....but i'm still confused because i understood only to up the meds every 3-5 days and I just upped in 3 days ago with no results at all, so i just hope i'm not taking too much................also i thought and maybe misunderstood that only to up it when temps start to stabilize and obviously mine have not...............

From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: 5th week and I'm a wreck!To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 9:14 AM

I'm in 5th week, at 62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches which I never had before, I am wondering if I should add a tiny bit of T4? My ratio was 11 before I started this regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and 1 grain armour...... ..I am wondering if I should have cut down more graduallythe armour than just go on my own and cut out totally armour, maybe this is my problem? I don't know how much I can last feeling like this. My iron was 104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take isocort 4-4-1 although on isocort my saliva test were normal more or less before i started this. My temps are nothing stable...... .please if you can guide me I would be most grateful.... ....

[Guest guest]

ok, so I am on 62.5 now, so tomorrow will split to 4 times/day (from 6) and up by 6.25 (?) and take 18.75/18.75/12.5/ 18.75?

From: sandra weisenthal <interart81 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>Subject: 5th week and I'm a wreck!To: RT3_T3 (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 9:14 AM

I'm in 5th week, at 62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches which I never had before, I am wondering if I should add a tiny bit of T4? My ratio was 11 before I started this regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and 1 grain armour...... ..I am wondering if I should have cut down more graduallythe armour than just go on my own and cut out totally armour, maybe this is my problem? I don't know how much I can last feeling like this. My iron was 104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take isocort 4-4-1 although on isocort my saliva test were normal more or less before i started this. My temps are nothing stable...... .please if you can guide me I would be most grateful.... ....

[Guest guest]

Oh dear now I am confused because the others in the group were saying I didn't have enough T3 and I should increase it................today I did increase the isocort to 4-4-1, (from 3-3), but do you think I should increase or decrease the T3, now I am super confused..............please help!

I'm in 5th week, at 62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches which I never had before, I am wondering if I should add a tiny bit of T4? My ratio was 11 before I started this regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and 1 grain armour...... ..I am wondering if I should have cut down more graduallythe armour than just go on my own and cut out totally armour, maybe this is my problem? I don't know how much I can last feeling like this. My iron was 104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take isocort 4-4-1 although on isocort my saliva test were normal more or less before i started this. My temps are nothing stable...... .please if you can guide me I would be most grateful.... ....

[Guest guest]

sandra, i'm sorry you are going through a rough time.

i think what val means is that if you decided to go off the isocort for two

weeks in order to be able to get an accurate saliva test, then you might want to

lower your t3 dose. i think she mentioned that ONLY because if you are having

t3 tolerance issues with SOME adrenal support, then you might have worse

intolerance issues if you go off ALL of your adrenal support. your body may not

be able to support the t3 dose you are currently taking.

your other option was to raise your isocort and see if it helps you.

BUT, you never really have had solid accurate saliva tests telling you what you

should do for your adrenals, so raising your isocort and seeing what the

symptoms tell you may be way too confusing.

just from experience, telling the difference btwn needing more hc and less has

been really really confusing for me... almost impossible.

i recently weaned off hc, way too quickly, because for whatever reason i thought

symptoms were high cortisol. but now i think that was wrong, and i think i

might have actually needed MORE hc.

but i was off the hc, so i decided to stay off all adrenal support long enough

to retest saliva so that i dont have to go just by symptoms. way too hard. and

now i am impatiently awaiting the results, and struggling a bit, but i will have

the peace of mind that i have accurate saliva labs guiding my decision to stay

off hc, or go back on.

so, if you think you are in a bind now, it might be worse if you guessed your

way up to hc.

and i really dont think that anyone should tell you to up your t3 that quickly,

when your temps are not stable... upping the t3 dose with possible intolerance

issues isnt going to solve the problem.

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> I'm in 5th week, at 62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the

mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches which I never had

before, I am wondering if I should add a tiny bit of T4?  My ratio was 11

before I started this regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and

1 grain armour...... ..I am wondering if I should have cut down more

graduallythe armour  than just go on my own and cut out totally armour, maybe

this is my problem?  I don't know how much I can last feeling like this.  My

iron was 104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take

isocort 4-4-1  although on isocort my saliva test were normal more or less

before i started this. My temps are nothing stable...... .please if you can

guide me I would be most grateful.... .... 

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[Guest guest]

oh dear again, then to sum it up, I should go off isocort for 2 wks and retest, and lower my T3 to what since I am currently on 62.5mcg.............???? Sorry, I am really confused now...

Subject: Re: 5th week and I'm a wreck!To: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 7:27 PM

sandra, i'm sorry you are going through a rough time.i think what val means is that if you decided to go off the isocort for two weeks in order to be able to get an accurate saliva test, then you might want to lower your t3 dose. i think she mentioned that ONLY because if you are having t3 tolerance issues with SOME adrenal support, then you might have worse intolerance issues if you go off ALL of your adrenal support. your body may not be able to support the t3 dose you are currently taking.your other option was to raise your isocort and see if it helps you.BUT, you never really have had solid accurate saliva tests telling you what you should do for your adrenals, so raising your isocort and seeing what the symptoms tell you may be way too confusing.just from experience, telling the difference btwn needing more hc and less has been really really confusing for me... almost impossible. i recently weaned off hc, way

too quickly, because for whatever reason i thought symptoms were high cortisol. but now i think that was wrong, and i think i might have actually needed MORE hc.but i was off the hc, so i decided to stay off all adrenal support long enough to retest saliva so that i dont have to go just by symptoms. way too hard. and now i am impatiently awaiting the results, and struggling a bit, but i will have the peace of mind that i have accurate saliva labs guiding my decision to stay off hc, or go back on.so, if you think you are in a bind now, it might be worse if you guessed your way up to hc.and i really dont think that anyone should tell you to up your t3 that quickly, when your temps are not stable... upping the t3 dose with possible intolerance issues isnt going to solve the problem. > > > > > I'm in 5th week, at 62.5mcg T3 but I am feeling bad, I am groggy in the mornings, my hair is very dry now, I have slight headaches which I never had before, I am wondering if I should add a tiny bit of T4? My ratio was 11 before I started this regimen, the doctor had suggested I only take 12.5 T3 and 1 grain armour...... ..I am wondering if I should have cut down more graduallythe armour  than just go on my own and cut out totally armour, maybe this is my problem? I don't know how much I can last feeling like this. My iron was 104 before I started and I take now 4 bluebonnets/ day, and I take isocort 4-4-1 although on isocort my saliva test were normal more or less before i started this. My temps are

nothing stable...... .please if you can guide me I would be most grateful.... .... >