Re: To all forum members: a question about AD - VAL!

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Val,

When I suddenly came down with the breathing issue (cannot get a good deep breath), I went three nights with zero sleep. I finally crashed and went to emergency room, and begged them to give me something to knock me out. Three days in the hospital and many tests later, they had no idea what was wrong with me, and my doctor gave me Ambien (10 mg) to help me get to sleep, as I could not relax enough to do so with the breathing. I still cannot drift off without taking it. I have some 5HTP, some natural Ambiatol, some Melatonin, and have some tryptophan ordered. What would you take to try and get relaxed enough to get to sleep without the Ambien? Just lying there makes me more anxious, and I need to sleep to heal, so it's sort of a catch 22 for me!

THANKS MUCH!

Joan> It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body actually adjusts to

function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.>

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Joan oyu nee dot know what is causing this to knwo what to do to treat

it, What did  you change when this STARTED? Adrnea;ls are the usual

culprit in sleep issues.

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Val,

 

When I suddenly came down with the breathing issue (cannot

get a good deep breath), I went three nights with zero sleep.  I

finally crashed and went to emergency room, and begged them to give me

something to knock me out.  Three days in the hospital and many tests

later, they had no idea what was wrong with me, and my doctor gave me

Ambien (10 mg) to help me get to sleep, as I could not relax enough to

do so with the breathing.  I still cannot drift off without taking it. 

I have some 5HTP, some natural Ambiatol, some Melatonin, and have some

tryptophan ordered.  What would you take to try and get relaxed enough

to get to sleep without the Ambien?  Just lying there makes me more

anxious, and I need to sleep to heal, so it's sort of a catch 22 for

me! 

 

THANKS MUCH!

 

Joan

> It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they

become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel

good). The body actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in

it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she

is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I

reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by

another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up

with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.

>

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Val, this scares me , what you wrote below, because I made a post a while back

that my husband had NO hypo symptoms except a low temp and low ft3 (looks like

rt3 problem to me) so I suspect he is running on high cortisol.

BUT this past year...well...he's been doing a bit of coke. And it is a bit --

only $20 a month. He doesn't even drink coffee (never has, not colas either) and

he doesn't even do the coke every day (or obviously it would be more than $20!).

He told me is isn't tired, it just makes him feel " good. "

And he is SO physical active (without coke!). He only takes that when he has to

do a lot of boring office work all day long.

Now I am crying because I was so STUPID!!!!

We are drawn to addictions, even coffee, because they give us what we need. I

know there are people who feel good and have energy wihtout even drinking

coffee.

I understand the enjoyment of recreational drugs once in a while, but when you

have to do something frequently to feel NORMAL, you're right, it's because your

body is lacking something, so you find a drug or chemical to make up for it,

even if you don't realize what you're doing.

Luckily, he is not an addict -- yet -- and he's showing no other hypo symptoms

-- yet.

Sooo, I am having him do a saliva test and hope to nip this in the bud, the rt3

problem I mean, because I could not bear to see him get as sick as I've been the

past several years.

Nor be seriously addicted to coke!!!

Kathleen

I am somewhat of a well educated

> > person on this subject as I have been addicted to alcohol,

> > cocaine, Heroin, and methamphetamine. Of these Heroin is the MOST

> > physically addictive. I almost died fom stoppign heroin but NO ONE

> > would ever tell me I should nto stop it. And do nto tell me

> > because these Benzo;s are prescriptions they are ANY differnt as

> > they are not. ALL my addictions were to try to feel NORMAL when I

> > was so hypo and suicidal. Isn;t that why we take benzo's? HMM see

> > a problem here? My addictions were NO differnt and until I got the

> > HORMONES right I was always an addictive personality. I no longer

> > have that issue.. imagine that a TRULY cured addict and alcoholic.

> > One that can actually take a drink and nto drink to excess. ALL

> > because I fixed th ehormone issues. NO it si not easy especially

> > whne oyu have as many hormones off as I had, but it CAN be done.

> > And step ONE is getting your mind clear of the DRUGS so you cna

> > feel what the hromones are doing. T3 is HUGE in optimizing

> > neurotransmitters. It cannto work right if ther eis a drug

> > controlling these things.

> >

> >

>

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Joan -

Juat wanted to tell that your sleeping patters you describe sound like mine

before starting HC:

* I also could not sleep for days, longest time was a week without sleep. This

was going on for four years I believe.

* I also got to the the ER exhasted after not sleeping for a week, begging them

to give me something to sleep.

* I was terified of the bed, falling a sleep seemed like a huge task I have to

struggle through every night. Every day when night came I started to feel

anxious becuase I knew my daily struggle to fall a sleep is about to begin

again. I took me approximatly 2-3 hours to succeed to fall a sleep.

* Tried many kinds of sleep drugs and anti-anxiety drugs, both natural and

synthetic. Some didn't help and with some I woke up feeling I didn't sleep at

all.

And after years this tremendous suffering, finally my problem was solved. I now

have no sleeping problems at all: I fall a sleep easily, sleep 8-9 hours

straight feeling pretty refreshe (as nuch as a hypo person can feel refreshed).

What brought the big change was the HC. It simply vanished my sleeping problems

in very short time.

I am telling you all of this hoping it will help youa little. Even if you take

HC, maybe the dosing is wrong. From my experience, HC could be the base for all

your sleeping issues, as it was in my case.

Ariela

> > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become

habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body

actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash

as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose

reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it

for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg

reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and

brain-zaps.

> >

>

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Val,

I had had a very stressful winter, and in March one night the shortness of breath came on me. This made me very nervous, and I could not go to sleep after this symptom came upon me. The shortness of breath would not go away, and though it is better sometimes, it is with me constantly. Found out in May that I have rt3 and low b-12, low ferritin, etc. I'm assuming that since I went into panic mode, my adrenals finally konked out.

> It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body

actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.>

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So how is oyur FERRITIN now? Have you run a full iron panel recently?

That would be the proper thing to do.

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http://artisticgrooming.net/

Val,

 

I had had a very stressful winter, and in March one  night

the shortness of breath came on me.  This made me very nervous, and  I

could not go to sleep after this symptom came upon me.  The shortness

of breath would not go away, and though it is better sometimes, it is

with me constantly.  Found out in May that I have rt3 and low b-12, low

ferritin, etc.  I'm assuming that since I went into panic mode, my

adrenals finally konked out. 

 

> It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they

become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel

good). The body actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in

it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she

is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I

reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by

another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up

with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.

>

[Guest guest]

Val, I'm having a full iron panel done tomorrow morning, so we should know more soon! Last night, I took a Melatonin, a 5htp, and only 1/2 of my Ambien tablet, and I went to sleep, so I consider that a success. I woke at 3:00 a.m. and took another 5htp, and was able to go back to sleep quickly.

Thanks............Joan> It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body

actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and brain-zaps.>