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Have you experimented with dropping down on your T3 dose just to see if that

helped with your breathing problems? I know you asked Val about dropping down

because of your very low Ferritin, but I can't remember if you told her how bad

your breathing problem was.

Kerry

> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become

habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body

actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash

as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose

reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it

for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg

reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and

brain-zaps.

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Joan,

Ambien is not always terribly addictive. I took it for several weeks and stopped

cold turkey with no effect except a couple nights of rebound insomnia trying to

fall asleep. (Yes, not what you wanted to hear about insomnia...)

But about the HC, I agree! I've had to do TONS of experimenting but I've had

plenty of interesting experiences with sleep and HC.

-When I first went onto 20 HC, I suddenly slept! I'd had problems staying asleep

for YEARS, most of my whole life that I remember, actually. I think I had high

night cortisol and the HC brought that down. I would wake once, but that's it. I

did take a Unisom when I woke, but one Unisom and only waking once! I could live

with that. It was like a miracle!

Then later, on the HC and t3 and Armour roller coaster ride, things went

downhill and would wax and wane. I didn't know about bedtime doses back then,

either.

Now, I HAVE to take a bedtime dose, but the timing has been everything. I cannot

take it all at night and sleep. I think it wears off and the whole dose is too

much for when I'm just going to sleep. So what I do is take 1.25 at bedtime and

then another 3.75 when I wake up. This seems to work best for me. If I don't

take the 3.75 when I wake up (if I try 2.5 for example) I'll wake a couple hours

later feeling shaky and sometimes almost nauseus.

But I did have to experiment a lot to discover this. Now I get 7 decent hours

this way. I am still trying to get to 8 or 9, but at leaat I am getting closer.

I do take theanine, GABA, Valerian and Passion Flower to help me sleep. They are

all natural and I don't think any of those will affecft your cortisol levels.

Kathleen

> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become

habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body

actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash

as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose

reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it

for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg

reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and

brain-zaps.

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Oh, wanted to add, and I HATE to say this as some people may kill me, but I

can't tolerate t3 at bedtime. Believe me, I've tried. :-( Val told me she only

sees this with people with low ferritin and mine was not high enough last I

checked. Since you have low ferritin anyway, maybe this is an issue for you,

too. The t3 just totally wakes me up if I try to take it at bed. Hopefully I

will be able to do so in the future.

Kathleen

> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become

habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body

actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash

as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose

reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it

for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg

reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and

brain-zaps.

> > >

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Joan, some people don't do well with a bedtime dose of Cytomel. What about

trying taking your last one early in the evening?

Kerry

> > > It is not that the patients are addicted to ADs, it is that they become

habituated (addiction would imply that more is needed to feel good). The body

actually adjusts to function with the AD (poison) in it, so there is a backlash

as one reduces the amount of AD (poison) she is taking. In addition, dose

reductions have a cumulative effect. If I reduce my dose by 10 mg and hold it

for a week, and then reduce by another 10 mg, my body reacts to a 20 mg

reduction ... and I end up with severe anxiety, light-headedness, and

brain-zaps.

> > >

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