Re: Hi....new and need your guidance / a few more tests

[Guest guest]

H Mandy: many here are also low on Vitamin D and B12 (both of which should be

near the tops of their ranges), so if possible I'd get them tested, too. B12 in

particular, since low b12 adversely affects cognitive ability (I found that one

out the hard way). Low folate also affects cognitive ability, so if you can get

a folate test, that might provide useful info. I've read that the RBC folate

test is superior to the Serum one.

>

> Hi, My name is Mandy

> I've suffered low energy, depression, no drive or any semblance of zest for

life, excessive sleeping, never waking refreshed, No sex drive, feeling drugged

in the morning��since my late teen yrs. I am now 43. During the past 3

yrs I have been through so much hell with my health due to nerve pain/surgery

and perhaps even Peri-menopause but I am slowly recovering �.through finding

many food allergies/ intolerances as well as hormone therapy. However I feel

there is still a big piece missing as I cannot get rid of the pervasive symptoms

I've described above.

> I know I have a Reverse T3 issue (over the past 2 days since finding this

site, I have read close to 500 messages here) and my doc will not listen to me.

My levels are fine, she says. Although for the last 3 lab's I've had done she

has mentioned each time that she would like to see my TSH down closer to 2.

However, she doesn't offer me guidance as to how to do this?! I tried my

hardest to press her yesterday, and she finally said " you have a pituitary

problem " , " but I guess we can add a dessicated thyroid supplement " (just an over

the counter product her office sells). �..sigh

>

> Please help me. I guess I'm just looking for confirmation here before I

proceed " helping " myself.

> My labs:

> Dec 2009: Labs ordered independently of my current doc

> TSH- 3.410 uIU/mL (0.45- 4.5)

> FT3- 3.9 pg/ml (2.3-4.2)

> FT4- 1.14 ng/dl (0.89-1.76)

> RT3- 312 pg/ml (90-350)

> Cortisol am/serum: 18.4 ug/dl (2.3-19.4) HIGH

> Dhea am/serum: 790 H ng/dl (110-554) HIGH

>

> July 2010: different lab

> TSH- 3.40 mcIU/ml (0.3-5.0)

> FT3- 3.66 pg/ml (2.77-5.27)

> FT4- 1.1 ng/dl (0.8-2.0)

> No RT3 ordered

> Cortisol am/serum- 14.3 mcg/dl (6.0-25) I got that lowered, probably due

to addressing the food intolerances

>

> DHEA- Lab mistakenly ran a DHEASulfate instead�.so can't compare.

> I've done the math using Dec values�.Ft3/RT3: my ratio is 12.5 (correct me

if I'm wrong)

>

> I'm ready to move forward very carefully and treat myself (which it sounds

like a lot of you are)�.

>

> 1.I'm going to order a 24 saliva cortisol test. Now that depends on what you

think of my values. It seems to me my cortisol is pretty high�although I don't

know what you feel about serum testing.

>

> 2.I'm also going to order a Ferritin test to see where those levels are. Never

been done before.

>

> 3.In the mean time I want to order some T3 to have on hand once the test

results are in. Where/how do I go about doing this? I've used InHouse Pharm

(EU) myself before, however it sounds like Mexico is the place? Can someone

email me who they use? That would help me greatly!

>

> Thanks so much for your time and input. Hope it's clear, I have difficulty

with my cognitive ability, (always questioning whether I made sense).

> Mandy

>

[Guest guest]

H Mandy: many here are also low on Vitamin D and B12 (both of which should be

near the tops of their ranges), so if possible I'd get them tested, too. B12 in

particular, since low b12 adversely affects cognitive ability (I found that one

out the hard way). Low folate also affects cognitive ability, so if you can get

a folate test, that might provide useful info. I've read that the RBC folate

test is superior to the Serum one.

>

> Hi, My name is Mandy

> I've suffered low energy, depression, no drive or any semblance of zest for

life, excessive sleeping, never waking refreshed, No sex drive, feeling drugged

in the morning��since my late teen yrs. I am now 43. During the past 3

yrs I have been through so much hell with my health due to nerve pain/surgery

and perhaps even Peri-menopause but I am slowly recovering �.through finding

many food allergies/ intolerances as well as hormone therapy. However I feel

there is still a big piece missing as I cannot get rid of the pervasive symptoms

I've described above.

> I know I have a Reverse T3 issue (over the past 2 days since finding this

site, I have read close to 500 messages here) and my doc will not listen to me.

My levels are fine, she says. Although for the last 3 lab's I've had done she

has mentioned each time that she would like to see my TSH down closer to 2.

However, she doesn't offer me guidance as to how to do this?! I tried my

hardest to press her yesterday, and she finally said " you have a pituitary

problem " , " but I guess we can add a dessicated thyroid supplement " (just an over

the counter product her office sells). �..sigh

>

> Please help me. I guess I'm just looking for confirmation here before I

proceed " helping " myself.

> My labs:

> Dec 2009: Labs ordered independently of my current doc

> TSH- 3.410 uIU/mL (0.45- 4.5)

> FT3- 3.9 pg/ml (2.3-4.2)

> FT4- 1.14 ng/dl (0.89-1.76)

> RT3- 312 pg/ml (90-350)

> Cortisol am/serum: 18.4 ug/dl (2.3-19.4) HIGH

> Dhea am/serum: 790 H ng/dl (110-554) HIGH

>

> July 2010: different lab

> TSH- 3.40 mcIU/ml (0.3-5.0)

> FT3- 3.66 pg/ml (2.77-5.27)

> FT4- 1.1 ng/dl (0.8-2.0)

> No RT3 ordered

> Cortisol am/serum- 14.3 mcg/dl (6.0-25) I got that lowered, probably due

to addressing the food intolerances

>

> DHEA- Lab mistakenly ran a DHEASulfate instead�.so can't compare.

> I've done the math using Dec values�.Ft3/RT3: my ratio is 12.5 (correct me

if I'm wrong)

>

> I'm ready to move forward very carefully and treat myself (which it sounds

like a lot of you are)�.

>

> 1.I'm going to order a 24 saliva cortisol test. Now that depends on what you

think of my values. It seems to me my cortisol is pretty high�although I don't

know what you feel about serum testing.

>

> 2.I'm also going to order a Ferritin test to see where those levels are. Never

been done before.

>

> 3.In the mean time I want to order some T3 to have on hand once the test

results are in. Where/how do I go about doing this? I've used InHouse Pharm

(EU) myself before, however it sounds like Mexico is the place? Can someone

email me who they use? That would help me greatly!

>

> Thanks so much for your time and input. Hope it's clear, I have difficulty

with my cognitive ability, (always questioning whether I made sense).

> Mandy

>

[Guest guest]

H Mandy: many here are also low on Vitamin D and B12 (both of which should be

near the tops of their ranges), so if possible I'd get them tested, too. B12 in

particular, since low b12 adversely affects cognitive ability (I found that one

out the hard way). Low folate also affects cognitive ability, so if you can get

a folate test, that might provide useful info. I've read that the RBC folate

test is superior to the Serum one.

>

> Hi, My name is Mandy

> I've suffered low energy, depression, no drive or any semblance of zest for

life, excessive sleeping, never waking refreshed, No sex drive, feeling drugged

in the morning��since my late teen yrs. I am now 43. During the past 3

yrs I have been through so much hell with my health due to nerve pain/surgery

and perhaps even Peri-menopause but I am slowly recovering �.through finding

many food allergies/ intolerances as well as hormone therapy. However I feel

there is still a big piece missing as I cannot get rid of the pervasive symptoms

I've described above.

> I know I have a Reverse T3 issue (over the past 2 days since finding this

site, I have read close to 500 messages here) and my doc will not listen to me.

My levels are fine, she says. Although for the last 3 lab's I've had done she

has mentioned each time that she would like to see my TSH down closer to 2.

However, she doesn't offer me guidance as to how to do this?! I tried my

hardest to press her yesterday, and she finally said " you have a pituitary

problem " , " but I guess we can add a dessicated thyroid supplement " (just an over

the counter product her office sells). �..sigh

>

> Please help me. I guess I'm just looking for confirmation here before I

proceed " helping " myself.

> My labs:

> Dec 2009: Labs ordered independently of my current doc

> TSH- 3.410 uIU/mL (0.45- 4.5)

> FT3- 3.9 pg/ml (2.3-4.2)

> FT4- 1.14 ng/dl (0.89-1.76)

> RT3- 312 pg/ml (90-350)

> Cortisol am/serum: 18.4 ug/dl (2.3-19.4) HIGH

> Dhea am/serum: 790 H ng/dl (110-554) HIGH

>

> July 2010: different lab

> TSH- 3.40 mcIU/ml (0.3-5.0)

> FT3- 3.66 pg/ml (2.77-5.27)

> FT4- 1.1 ng/dl (0.8-2.0)

> No RT3 ordered

> Cortisol am/serum- 14.3 mcg/dl (6.0-25) I got that lowered, probably due

to addressing the food intolerances

>

> DHEA- Lab mistakenly ran a DHEASulfate instead�.so can't compare.

> I've done the math using Dec values�.Ft3/RT3: my ratio is 12.5 (correct me

if I'm wrong)

>

> I'm ready to move forward very carefully and treat myself (which it sounds

like a lot of you are)�.

>

> 1.I'm going to order a 24 saliva cortisol test. Now that depends on what you

think of my values. It seems to me my cortisol is pretty high�although I don't

know what you feel about serum testing.

>

> 2.I'm also going to order a Ferritin test to see where those levels are. Never

been done before.

>

> 3.In the mean time I want to order some T3 to have on hand once the test

results are in. Where/how do I go about doing this? I've used InHouse Pharm

(EU) myself before, however it sounds like Mexico is the place? Can someone

email me who they use? That would help me greatly!

>

> Thanks so much for your time and input. Hope it's clear, I have difficulty

with my cognitive ability, (always questioning whether I made sense).

> Mandy

>

[Guest guest]

low b12 adversely affects cognitive ability (I found that one

out the hard way). Low folate also affects cognitive ability,

really!?!? when mandy described not having good cognitive ability " i'm always

questioning whether i'm making sense " i thought THAT IS ME!! that's one of my

MAIN symptoms...

can you explain to me what this is from!? i have not had b12 tested yet, i take

b 100 complex but forget to add extra b12... and what is folate?

thanks

> >

> > Hi, My name is Mandy

> > I've suffered low energy, depression, no drive or any semblance of zest for

life, excessive sleeping, never waking refreshed, No sex drive, feeling drugged

in the morning��since my late teen yrs. I am now 43. During the past 3

yrs I have been through so much hell with my health due to nerve pain/surgery

and perhaps even Peri-menopause but I am slowly recovering �.through finding

many food allergies/ intolerances as well as hormone therapy. However I feel

there is still a big piece missing as I cannot get rid of the pervasive symptoms

I've described above.

> > I know I have a Reverse T3 issue (over the past 2 days since finding this

site, I have read close to 500 messages here) and my doc will not listen to me.

My levels are fine, she says. Although for the last 3 lab's I've had done she

has mentioned each time that she would like to see my TSH down closer to 2.

However, she doesn't offer me guidance as to how to do this?! I tried my

hardest to press her yesterday, and she finally said " you have a pituitary

problem " , " but I guess we can add a dessicated thyroid supplement " (just an over

the counter product her office sells). �..sigh

> >

> > Please help me. I guess I'm just looking for confirmation here before I

proceed " helping " myself.

> > My labs:

> > Dec 2009: Labs ordered independently of my current doc

> > TSH- 3.410 uIU/mL (0.45- 4.5)

> > FT3- 3.9 pg/ml (2.3-4.2)

> > FT4- 1.14 ng/dl (0.89-1.76)

> > RT3- 312 pg/ml (90-350)

> > Cortisol am/serum: 18.4 ug/dl (2.3-19.4) HIGH

> > Dhea am/serum: 790 H ng/dl (110-554) HIGH

> >

> > July 2010: different lab

> > TSH- 3.40 mcIU/ml (0.3-5.0)

> > FT3- 3.66 pg/ml (2.77-5.27)

> > FT4- 1.1 ng/dl (0.8-2.0)

> > No RT3 ordered

> > Cortisol am/serum- 14.3 mcg/dl (6.0-25) I got that lowered, probably

due to addressing the food intolerances

> >

> > DHEA- Lab mistakenly ran a DHEASulfate instead�.so can't compare.

> > I've done the math using Dec values�.Ft3/RT3: my ratio is 12.5 (correct

me if I'm wrong)

> >

> > I'm ready to move forward very carefully and treat myself (which it sounds

like a lot of you are)�.

> >

> > 1.I'm going to order a 24 saliva cortisol test. Now that depends on what

you think of my values. It seems to me my cortisol is pretty high�although I

don't know what you feel about serum testing.

> >

> > 2.I'm also going to order a Ferritin test to see where those levels are.

Never been done before.

> >

> > 3.In the mean time I want to order some T3 to have on hand once the test

results are in. Where/how do I go about doing this? I've used InHouse Pharm

(EU) myself before, however it sounds like Mexico is the place? Can someone

email me who they use? That would help me greatly!

> >

> > Thanks so much for your time and input. Hope it's clear, I have difficulty

with my cognitive ability, (always questioning whether I made sense).

> > Mandy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Folate is also called Vitamin B9. Here's a link with folate info, causes of

deficiency, symptoms:

http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec12/ch154/ch154b.html

Folate deficiency and B12 deficiency both can cause anemia, here's a link:

http://www.cureresearch.com/a/anemia/underly.htm

Interfering with red blood cells being able to deliver adequate oxygen to the

body, including the brain. b12 deficiency can also cause nerve damage.

Some sources of info use the terms Folic Acid and Folate interchangeably, but I

understand Folate is what we need and Folic Acid is unfortunately what most

supplements deliver. For supplements, Lethal Lee recommended the active forms

of folate, Folinic Acid & 5-Mthf., in this post:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/message/48514

> > >

> > > Hi, My name is Mandy

> > > I've suffered low energy, depression, no drive or any semblance of zest

for life, excessive sleeping, never waking refreshed, No sex drive, feeling

drugged in the morning��since my late teen yrs. I am now 43. During the

past 3 yrs I have been through so much hell with my health due to nerve

pain/surgery and perhaps even Peri-menopause but I am slowly recovering

�.through finding many food allergies/ intolerances as well as hormone

therapy. However I feel there is still a big piece missing as I cannot get rid

of the pervasive symptoms I've described above.

> > > I know I have a Reverse T3 issue (over the past 2 days since finding this

site, I have read close to 500 messages here) and my doc will not listen to me.

My levels are fine, she says. Although for the last 3 lab's I've had done she

has mentioned each time that she would like to see my TSH down closer to 2.

However, she doesn't offer me guidance as to how to do this?! I tried my

hardest to press her yesterday, and she finally said " you have a pituitary

problem " , " but I guess we can add a dessicated thyroid supplement " (just an over

the counter product her office sells). �..sigh

> > >

> > > Please help me. I guess I'm just looking for confirmation here before I

proceed " helping " myself.

> > > My labs:

> > > Dec 2009: Labs ordered independently of my current doc

> > > TSH- 3.410 uIU/mL (0.45- 4.5)

> > > FT3- 3.9 pg/ml (2.3-4.2)

> > > FT4- 1.14 ng/dl (0.89-1.76)

> > > RT3- 312 pg/ml (90-350)

> > > Cortisol am/serum: 18.4 ug/dl (2.3-19.4) HIGH

> > > Dhea am/serum: 790 H ng/dl (110-554) HIGH

> > >

> > > July 2010: different lab

> > > TSH- 3.40 mcIU/ml (0.3-5.0)

> > > FT3- 3.66 pg/ml (2.77-5.27)

> > > FT4- 1.1 ng/dl (0.8-2.0)

> > > No RT3 ordered

> > > Cortisol am/serum- 14.3 mcg/dl (6.0-25) I got that lowered, probably

due to addressing the food intolerances

> > >

> > > DHEA- Lab mistakenly ran a DHEASulfate instead�.so can't compare.

> > > I've done the math using Dec values�.Ft3/RT3: my ratio is 12.5 (correct

me if I'm wrong)

> > >

> > > I'm ready to move forward very carefully and treat myself (which it sounds

like a lot of you are)�.

> > >

> > > 1.I'm going to order a 24 saliva cortisol test. Now that depends on what

you think of my values. It seems to me my cortisol is pretty high�although I

don't know what you feel about serum testing.

> > >

> > > 2.I'm also going to order a Ferritin test to see where those levels are.

Never been done before.

> > >

> > > 3.In the mean time I want to order some T3 to have on hand once the test

results are in. Where/how do I go about doing this? I've used InHouse Pharm

(EU) myself before, however it sounds like Mexico is the place? Can someone

email me who they use? That would help me greatly!

> > >

> > > Thanks so much for your time and input. Hope it's clear, I have difficulty

with my cognitive ability, (always questioning whether I made sense).

> > > Mandy

> > >

> >

>