Newbie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/9/2002 10:10:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> Also,

> you're right about a nutritionist. Seeing someone is a very good idea.

> Where

> do you live? Maybe someone one the board can recommend a nutritionist in

> your

> area.

>

I live in a little town called Mt. n. The cities closest to me would

be:

Saugerties, Woodstock, Kingston, Rhinebeck, and Poughkeepsie any

recommendations would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:-

-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Laproscopic RNY 7-20-00

Starting Weight 313 lbs

Abdominoplasty/Mons Lift 9-5-01

Current Weight 158 lbs

Total Loss 155 lbs

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/9/2002 10:10:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> Also,

> you're right about a nutritionist. Seeing someone is a very good idea.

> Where

> do you live? Maybe someone one the board can recommend a nutritionist in

> your

> area.

>

I live in a little town called Mt. n. The cities closest to me would

be:

Saugerties, Woodstock, Kingston, Rhinebeck, and Poughkeepsie any

recommendations would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:-

-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Laproscopic RNY 7-20-00

Starting Weight 313 lbs

Abdominoplasty/Mons Lift 9-5-01

Current Weight 158 lbs

Total Loss 155 lbs

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/9/2002 10:10:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> you didn't say how tall you are, but your weight is pretty

> low, and it could just be that your body has found the weight it wants to

> stay

> at.

I am 5' 2 " tall, and weigh about 158 lbs (up from my lowest of 153).

The " chart " says I should be about 130 lbs.

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:-

-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Laproscopic RNY 7-20-00

Starting Weight 313 lbs

Abdominoplasty/Mons Lift 9-5-01

Current Weight 158 lbs

Total Loss 155 lbs

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/9/2002 10:10:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> you didn't say how tall you are, but your weight is pretty

> low, and it could just be that your body has found the weight it wants to

> stay

> at.

I am 5' 2 " tall, and weigh about 158 lbs (up from my lowest of 153).

The " chart " says I should be about 130 lbs.

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:-

-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Laproscopic RNY 7-20-00

Starting Weight 313 lbs

Abdominoplasty/Mons Lift 9-5-01

Current Weight 158 lbs

Total Loss 155 lbs

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/9/2002 10:10:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> you didn't say how tall you are, but your weight is pretty

> low, and it could just be that your body has found the weight it wants to

> stay

> at.

I am 5' 2 " tall, and weigh about 158 lbs (up from my lowest of 153).

The " chart " says I should be about 130 lbs.

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:-

-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

Laproscopic RNY 7-20-00

Starting Weight 313 lbs

Abdominoplasty/Mons Lift 9-5-01

Current Weight 158 lbs

Total Loss 155 lbs

[Guest guest]

, I'm sorry about your problems. Can you tell us why you refuse to take

Prozac? Is it the Prozac in particular you are against or antidepressants in

general?

in Akron

Nicste72998@... wrote: Hi to all...

My name is and I have been a member of ossggreatlakes for quite

sometime now and recently came across this one. I am in need of prayers

myself. I will tell you a little bit about myself. I am married to a

wonderful husband Steve and we have been together for almost 12 years. We

have 3 children, one daughter Kelsey who is 10, a son who is 8, and a

son who is 5. I work full-time for United Airlines as a reservation

agent and have been there for 5 years. I had an open RNY on May 7th of 2001,

so it's been about 15months since my surgery. My highest weight was 349lbs

and I was at 329 at pre-op. Today I am down to 193lbs. That part I

obviously can say I am extremely happy about. I have a lot of " head "

problems these days though. It started back in April when I over did it

apparently one day while exercising and strained my stomach muscles, but

anyways, the pain so scared me to death that I stopped eating, not

completely, but to a point where I was barely getting in 300-500 calories a

day. Well, this of course gave me even more problems, I ended up with some

pretty bad reflux due to not having food in my stomach for the acid to attach

itself to, so it was coming up and pretty uncomfortable. Me and my *angel*

from surgery came to the conclusion that I was not eating enough, and low and

behold, once I started eating more, it got much better. Well, that whole

episode lasted a month, but it really did a number on my brain so to speak.

I was terrified of death and I prayed constantly to my Lord and to my

deceased grandparents to NOT take me, that I was not ready to leave my

wonderful husband and babies, as I sit here now, it brings me to tears

because I am in that state again. I seen a psychologist in May and all he

wanted to do was give me Prozac which I totally did not want, so I never went

back. Lately, I have had terrible bubbles, not really gas pains so to speak

because it doesn't really hurt, but it is very annoying. I can't relate it

to any food at all either. This again terrifies me that something is wrong

with me. I never expected to feel this way or be this terrified, but I am.

I also know I have another surgery waiting for me due to a rather large

hernia on the right side of my stomach, and that scares me too. I would love

to have some insight from others who are farther out than me who can help me

to realize that I am not going to die from me having this surgery. Sorry so

long, but thank you all for listening or shall I say reading :-)

R

5-7-01

BTC Ypsilanti, Mi

Dr Poplawski

349 highest

329 pre-op

193 7-31-02

[Guest guest]

, I'm sorry about your problems. Can you tell us why you refuse to take

Prozac? Is it the Prozac in particular you are against or antidepressants in

general?

in Akron

Nicste72998@... wrote: Hi to all...

My name is and I have been a member of ossggreatlakes for quite

sometime now and recently came across this one. I am in need of prayers

myself. I will tell you a little bit about myself. I am married to a

wonderful husband Steve and we have been together for almost 12 years. We

have 3 children, one daughter Kelsey who is 10, a son who is 8, and a

son who is 5. I work full-time for United Airlines as a reservation

agent and have been there for 5 years. I had an open RNY on May 7th of 2001,

so it's been about 15months since my surgery. My highest weight was 349lbs

and I was at 329 at pre-op. Today I am down to 193lbs. That part I

obviously can say I am extremely happy about. I have a lot of " head "

problems these days though. It started back in April when I over did it

apparently one day while exercising and strained my stomach muscles, but

anyways, the pain so scared me to death that I stopped eating, not

completely, but to a point where I was barely getting in 300-500 calories a

day. Well, this of course gave me even more problems, I ended up with some

pretty bad reflux due to not having food in my stomach for the acid to attach

itself to, so it was coming up and pretty uncomfortable. Me and my *angel*

from surgery came to the conclusion that I was not eating enough, and low and

behold, once I started eating more, it got much better. Well, that whole

episode lasted a month, but it really did a number on my brain so to speak.

I was terrified of death and I prayed constantly to my Lord and to my

deceased grandparents to NOT take me, that I was not ready to leave my

wonderful husband and babies, as I sit here now, it brings me to tears

because I am in that state again. I seen a psychologist in May and all he

wanted to do was give me Prozac which I totally did not want, so I never went

back. Lately, I have had terrible bubbles, not really gas pains so to speak

because it doesn't really hurt, but it is very annoying. I can't relate it

to any food at all either. This again terrifies me that something is wrong

with me. I never expected to feel this way or be this terrified, but I am.

I also know I have another surgery waiting for me due to a rather large

hernia on the right side of my stomach, and that scares me too. I would love

to have some insight from others who are farther out than me who can help me

to realize that I am not going to die from me having this surgery. Sorry so

long, but thank you all for listening or shall I say reading :-)

R

5-7-01

BTC Ypsilanti, Mi

Dr Poplawski

349 highest

329 pre-op

193 7-31-02

[Guest guest]

, I'm sorry about your problems. Can you tell us why you refuse to take

Prozac? Is it the Prozac in particular you are against or antidepressants in

general?

in Akron

Nicste72998@... wrote: Hi to all...

My name is and I have been a member of ossggreatlakes for quite

sometime now and recently came across this one. I am in need of prayers

myself. I will tell you a little bit about myself. I am married to a

wonderful husband Steve and we have been together for almost 12 years. We

have 3 children, one daughter Kelsey who is 10, a son who is 8, and a

son who is 5. I work full-time for United Airlines as a reservation

agent and have been there for 5 years. I had an open RNY on May 7th of 2001,

so it's been about 15months since my surgery. My highest weight was 349lbs

and I was at 329 at pre-op. Today I am down to 193lbs. That part I

obviously can say I am extremely happy about. I have a lot of " head "

problems these days though. It started back in April when I over did it

apparently one day while exercising and strained my stomach muscles, but

anyways, the pain so scared me to death that I stopped eating, not

completely, but to a point where I was barely getting in 300-500 calories a

day. Well, this of course gave me even more problems, I ended up with some

pretty bad reflux due to not having food in my stomach for the acid to attach

itself to, so it was coming up and pretty uncomfortable. Me and my *angel*

from surgery came to the conclusion that I was not eating enough, and low and

behold, once I started eating more, it got much better. Well, that whole

episode lasted a month, but it really did a number on my brain so to speak.

I was terrified of death and I prayed constantly to my Lord and to my

deceased grandparents to NOT take me, that I was not ready to leave my

wonderful husband and babies, as I sit here now, it brings me to tears

because I am in that state again. I seen a psychologist in May and all he

wanted to do was give me Prozac which I totally did not want, so I never went

back. Lately, I have had terrible bubbles, not really gas pains so to speak

because it doesn't really hurt, but it is very annoying. I can't relate it

to any food at all either. This again terrifies me that something is wrong

with me. I never expected to feel this way or be this terrified, but I am.

I also know I have another surgery waiting for me due to a rather large

hernia on the right side of my stomach, and that scares me too. I would love

to have some insight from others who are farther out than me who can help me

to realize that I am not going to die from me having this surgery. Sorry so

long, but thank you all for listening or shall I say reading :-)

R

5-7-01

BTC Ypsilanti, Mi

Dr Poplawski

349 highest

329 pre-op

193 7-31-02

[Guest guest]

Ginger,

What works for me is when I am in the grazing mentality are a couple of

things. I literally have a couple of mantras on the front of my fridge that

tell me 'no grazing/no milk/no sugar' '5 proteins/vitamins/small meals'. And

if that doesn't work, then I watch the clock and become very structured

about when I will let myself have a meal. It helps me tremendously to have

proteins only until about 2 PM. It seems if I start in the morning, I eat

all day long.

And this darn last 50 is the most stubborn isn't it? Hope this helps.

Martha H

Hill Ca

Newbie

> Hello Everyone

>

> I just wanted to post introducing myself quickly (hopefully it will

> be quick..ha ha ha). I am 19 months post op open RNY with Dr.

> Pilcher in San , TX .. I've lost a little over 200 lbs. I

> would like to lose another 50 lbs to be at the goal I've placed for

> myself (30 would get me to where the doctor said I'd end up). I had

> tummy tuck in July to get rid of a large panniculus. I am very very

> pleased with those results. I want to have my thighs, arms and a

> breast lift done. The plastic surgeon wants to remove more from the

> tummy as he couldn't take as much as he'd like due to me having such

> a large apron to contend with.. too much and you won't heal

> correctly.

>

> I am mainly having trouble with not eating three meals a day..

> instead I find myself nibbling all day. I am sure it is still a very

> restricted amount of calories, but I know this habit could be

> damaging. I also know that I will have to work for this last 50 lbs

> and could use some advice. I know to push protein.. just need to

> discipline myself.. and that's something I obviously wasn't good at

> prior I hope to gain knowledge from this group of graduates.

>

> Thanks for letting me spout !!

> Ginger

> Austin, TX

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger,

What works for me is when I am in the grazing mentality are a couple of

things. I literally have a couple of mantras on the front of my fridge that

tell me 'no grazing/no milk/no sugar' '5 proteins/vitamins/small meals'. And

if that doesn't work, then I watch the clock and become very structured

about when I will let myself have a meal. It helps me tremendously to have

proteins only until about 2 PM. It seems if I start in the morning, I eat

all day long.

And this darn last 50 is the most stubborn isn't it? Hope this helps.

Martha H

Hill Ca

Newbie

> Hello Everyone

>

> I just wanted to post introducing myself quickly (hopefully it will

> be quick..ha ha ha). I am 19 months post op open RNY with Dr.

> Pilcher in San , TX .. I've lost a little over 200 lbs. I

> would like to lose another 50 lbs to be at the goal I've placed for

> myself (30 would get me to where the doctor said I'd end up). I had

> tummy tuck in July to get rid of a large panniculus. I am very very

> pleased with those results. I want to have my thighs, arms and a

> breast lift done. The plastic surgeon wants to remove more from the

> tummy as he couldn't take as much as he'd like due to me having such

> a large apron to contend with.. too much and you won't heal

> correctly.

>

> I am mainly having trouble with not eating three meals a day..

> instead I find myself nibbling all day. I am sure it is still a very

> restricted amount of calories, but I know this habit could be

> damaging. I also know that I will have to work for this last 50 lbs

> and could use some advice. I know to push protein.. just need to

> discipline myself.. and that's something I obviously wasn't good at

> prior I hope to gain knowledge from this group of graduates.

>

> Thanks for letting me spout !!

> Ginger

> Austin, TX

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ginger,

What works for me is when I am in the grazing mentality are a couple of

things. I literally have a couple of mantras on the front of my fridge that

tell me 'no grazing/no milk/no sugar' '5 proteins/vitamins/small meals'. And

if that doesn't work, then I watch the clock and become very structured

about when I will let myself have a meal. It helps me tremendously to have

proteins only until about 2 PM. It seems if I start in the morning, I eat

all day long.

And this darn last 50 is the most stubborn isn't it? Hope this helps.

Martha H

Hill Ca

Newbie

> Hello Everyone

>

> I just wanted to post introducing myself quickly (hopefully it will

> be quick..ha ha ha). I am 19 months post op open RNY with Dr.

> Pilcher in San , TX .. I've lost a little over 200 lbs. I

> would like to lose another 50 lbs to be at the goal I've placed for

> myself (30 would get me to where the doctor said I'd end up). I had

> tummy tuck in July to get rid of a large panniculus. I am very very

> pleased with those results. I want to have my thighs, arms and a

> breast lift done. The plastic surgeon wants to remove more from the

> tummy as he couldn't take as much as he'd like due to me having such

> a large apron to contend with.. too much and you won't heal

> correctly.

>

> I am mainly having trouble with not eating three meals a day..

> instead I find myself nibbling all day. I am sure it is still a very

> restricted amount of calories, but I know this habit could be

> damaging. I also know that I will have to work for this last 50 lbs

> and could use some advice. I know to push protein.. just need to

> discipline myself.. and that's something I obviously wasn't good at

> prior I hope to gain knowledge from this group of graduates.

>

> Thanks for letting me spout !!

> Ginger

> Austin, TX

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Arlyn,

Did the doc run TSH only? Your TSH is definitely going down since June. In

fact, you may have been hypOthyroid then with a TSH over 3. You need to have

FT3 and FT4 tested....also TPO and TSI antibodies.

Any family history of autoimmune disorders in your family? Rheumatoid

arthritis, diabetes, thyroid disorders, vitiligo, premature grey hair,

alopecia areata, lupus?

God bless,

Hashi's, Graves, TED worsened by RAI Sept. 2001

http://www.mediboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001091;p=1

[Guest guest]

Arlyn,

Did the doc run TSH only? Your TSH is definitely going down since June. In

fact, you may have been hypOthyroid then with a TSH over 3. You need to have

FT3 and FT4 tested....also TPO and TSI antibodies.

Any family history of autoimmune disorders in your family? Rheumatoid

arthritis, diabetes, thyroid disorders, vitiligo, premature grey hair,

alopecia areata, lupus?

God bless,

Hashi's, Graves, TED worsened by RAI Sept. 2001

http://www.mediboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001091;p=1

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Well that was $300 down...

Saw an endo today. Said while I had all the symptoms, since my TSH was

2.3, I couldn't possibly be hyper.

Suggested I see a psychiatrist.

Anyone have normal numbers and are still being treated by their doctor?

Would appreciate any input.

Thanks,

Arlyn

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Well that was $300 down...

Saw an endo today. Said while I had all the symptoms, since my TSH was

2.3, I couldn't possibly be hyper.

Suggested I see a psychiatrist.

Anyone have normal numbers and are still being treated by their doctor?

Would appreciate any input.

Thanks,

Arlyn

[Guest guest]

At 02:31 PM 11/22/02 -0500, you wrote:

>Arlyn,

>

>Did the doc run TSH only? Your TSH is definitely going down since June.

He said it didn't matter that it went down, it was still normal

>fact, you may have been hypOthyroid then with a TSH over 3. You need to have

>FT3 and FT4 tested....also TPO and TSI antibodies.

T3=35; T4=7.4; FTI=2.6; TSH=2.35

>Any family history of autoimmune disorders in your family? Rheumatoid

>arthritis, diabetes, thyroid disorders, vitiligo, premature grey hair,

>alopecia areata, lupus?

My mother had her thyroid removed when she was in her 40's, brother and

uncle have adult onset diabetes.

I have severe osteoarthritis. And, I am grey and have been since my early

40's.

>God bless,

>

>Hashi's, Graves, TED worsened by RAI Sept. 2001

>http://www.mediboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001091;p=1>htt\

p://www.mediboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001091;p=1

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Zhi,

I am right along side on this one. By the general trend it does seem

the dose was lowered too soon. Plus...everyother day makes no sense at all.

On the days you take none, not only do you become more hyper, but it always

seemed logical to ME, having the extra stimulation and no meds creates an

environment for the antibodies to reproduce. Certainly a set up for failure.

Now... ummmmm ...

It is only T4 they tested here. So we really do not know what other things

could have influenced this reading. Is there any way to figure out what her

true FT4 numbers could even be close to ?

Zhi,

The total T4 that you had done is also influenced by estrogen, other

medications and I am not sure what else, sine I never had one done, as I

always insisted on FreeT4. No guessing that way.

But and I are looking at the TREND...so our words still will be the

same.

Next question...are you already limiting the iodine in your diet ? If

not...now is the time to study the situation and do it. Iodine is the fuel

our thyroids use to make hormone. Sooooo...less iodine = less hormone = less

Tap !

Your getting down there on your dose, and iodine could well be the final

factor in remission for you. It is possible. After the first month I limited

my iodine, my PTU dose had to be cut completely in half !

Now in remission, I STILL feel the affects of iodine, and still watch it. I

believe the only reason I will ever go back to hyper, is if I mess up and

stop watching my diet, and possibly get too stressed out. I have had a few

things come up since remission as far as stress, and though I did flip out,

I DID back off and destress...so this theory is only half tested. :-)

It is my firm belief that the remission rates in this country are so low,

because our doctors tell all of us, our diets do not matter. How logical is

that ?

Then, the ones that do accidentally slip into remission, with out this

knowledge, and very likely to go hyper again. Thus the lower rates for

staying there.

I know this sounds too simple, and all the medical jargon makes all new

patients feel they will never understand Graves'...but I tell you...this is

NOT rocket science in my experience. True, I had to come to the Internet to

start figuring it out, since my top doc endo didn't help...but once I got

the basics, it was down hill from there.

The only way 99% of Graves' patients will hit remission and stay there is if

they take matters into their own hands as much as possible.

Perhaps a link will help:

****************

Seems The American Medical Ass. agrees with me on iodine consumption. ( OH,

and you too Elaine :-) )

There is a good list of references at the end.

If you only want to 'sample' this..please scroll down to the 'conclusion'.

THEN you may want to study the entire article.

http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v024je11.htm

See:

In addition to an increased incidence of thyroid

dysfunction and iodine sensitivity reactions in susceptible

individuals, an increase in dietary iodine will have several other

consequences (Hall & Lazarus, 1987; Wartofsky, 1984):

- greater difficulty in controlling Graves' Disease with

antithyroid drugs and a decline of remission rates for those

on antithyroid medication;

- an increase in the dose of radioiodine required to induce

euthyroidism and hypothyroidism; and

- an alteration in the pattern of thyroid cancer.

***************

-Pam L -

Back on the 'Iodine Soapbox'.

*3 1/2 yr.Graves and TED, PTU, Remission due to education, SLOW reduction of

PTU, improved lifestyle, excellent nutrition,herbs, and looking at the BIG

picture !

Pills alone only fix symptoms. We must help our bodies to heal.

[Guest guest]

Hi Zhi,

I am right along side on this one. By the general trend it does seem

the dose was lowered too soon. Plus...everyother day makes no sense at all.

On the days you take none, not only do you become more hyper, but it always

seemed logical to ME, having the extra stimulation and no meds creates an

environment for the antibodies to reproduce. Certainly a set up for failure.

Now... ummmmm ...

It is only T4 they tested here. So we really do not know what other things

could have influenced this reading. Is there any way to figure out what her

true FT4 numbers could even be close to ?

Zhi,

The total T4 that you had done is also influenced by estrogen, other

medications and I am not sure what else, sine I never had one done, as I

always insisted on FreeT4. No guessing that way.

But and I are looking at the TREND...so our words still will be the

same.

Next question...are you already limiting the iodine in your diet ? If

not...now is the time to study the situation and do it. Iodine is the fuel

our thyroids use to make hormone. Sooooo...less iodine = less hormone = less

Tap !

Your getting down there on your dose, and iodine could well be the final

factor in remission for you. It is possible. After the first month I limited

my iodine, my PTU dose had to be cut completely in half !

Now in remission, I STILL feel the affects of iodine, and still watch it. I

believe the only reason I will ever go back to hyper, is if I mess up and

stop watching my diet, and possibly get too stressed out. I have had a few

things come up since remission as far as stress, and though I did flip out,

I DID back off and destress...so this theory is only half tested. :-)

It is my firm belief that the remission rates in this country are so low,

because our doctors tell all of us, our diets do not matter. How logical is

that ?

Then, the ones that do accidentally slip into remission, with out this

knowledge, and very likely to go hyper again. Thus the lower rates for

staying there.

I know this sounds too simple, and all the medical jargon makes all new

patients feel they will never understand Graves'...but I tell you...this is

NOT rocket science in my experience. True, I had to come to the Internet to

start figuring it out, since my top doc endo didn't help...but once I got

the basics, it was down hill from there.

The only way 99% of Graves' patients will hit remission and stay there is if

they take matters into their own hands as much as possible.

Perhaps a link will help:

****************

Seems The American Medical Ass. agrees with me on iodine consumption. ( OH,

and you too Elaine :-) )

There is a good list of references at the end.

If you only want to 'sample' this..please scroll down to the 'conclusion'.

THEN you may want to study the entire article.

http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v024je11.htm

See:

In addition to an increased incidence of thyroid

dysfunction and iodine sensitivity reactions in susceptible

individuals, an increase in dietary iodine will have several other

consequences (Hall & Lazarus, 1987; Wartofsky, 1984):

- greater difficulty in controlling Graves' Disease with

antithyroid drugs and a decline of remission rates for those

on antithyroid medication;

- an increase in the dose of radioiodine required to induce

euthyroidism and hypothyroidism; and

- an alteration in the pattern of thyroid cancer.

***************

-Pam L -

Back on the 'Iodine Soapbox'.

*3 1/2 yr.Graves and TED, PTU, Remission due to education, SLOW reduction of

PTU, improved lifestyle, excellent nutrition,herbs, and looking at the BIG

picture !

Pills alone only fix symptoms. We must help our bodies to heal.

[Guest guest]

Hi Zhi,

Yes...iodine ! This is the BIG one in my opinion.

True, it may well be another 6 months for you , or even a year. Who knows?

BUT...the point is remission, not years and years of fighting with doctors

about labs, and NO Thank You ..I do NOT want RAI...and listening to them

telling you death is eminent if you stay on the drugs.

Go to the home page for this group, and you will find many useful links.

OR...ask Google

" Iodine content foods " .

You will be absolutely amazed where the iodine is ! It is in everything !

First thing will be to look at your multi vitamin. It most likely has 150

mcg of iodine. That is all a person needs each day. So if you eat anything

....you are over. There are mulits out there with no iodine. Good first

step.

Then eliminate completely all pre made foods of all kinds. After that you

make choices in your iodine budget for each day.

-Pam L-

3 1/2 yr.Graves and TED, PTU, Remission due to education, SLOW reduction of

PTU, improved lifestyle, excellent nutrition,herbs, and looking at the BIG

picture !

Pills alone only fix symptoms. We must help our bodies to heal.

[Guest guest]

Hi Zhi,

Yes...iodine ! This is the BIG one in my opinion.

True, it may well be another 6 months for you , or even a year. Who knows?

BUT...the point is remission, not years and years of fighting with doctors

about labs, and NO Thank You ..I do NOT want RAI...and listening to them

telling you death is eminent if you stay on the drugs.

Go to the home page for this group, and you will find many useful links.

OR...ask Google

" Iodine content foods " .

You will be absolutely amazed where the iodine is ! It is in everything !

First thing will be to look at your multi vitamin. It most likely has 150

mcg of iodine. That is all a person needs each day. So if you eat anything

....you are over. There are mulits out there with no iodine. Good first

step.

Then eliminate completely all pre made foods of all kinds. After that you

make choices in your iodine budget for each day.

-Pam L-

3 1/2 yr.Graves and TED, PTU, Remission due to education, SLOW reduction of

PTU, improved lifestyle, excellent nutrition,herbs, and looking at the BIG

picture !

Pills alone only fix symptoms. We must help our bodies to heal.

[Guest guest]

I tested the B12 product.

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

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Newbie

Hi everyone...I just wanted to introduce myself since I am new here.

I am pre-op...my surgery is April 10th and can't wait to become

a " loser " . I do have one question...my friend sells Market America

Isotonix and I am afraid to try these products. Has anyone tried any

of these products. I really prefer to get my stuff from Vitalady

since she has been thru it and knows what is good for us. Thanks for

your help.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Congrats on having a surgery date! That's a great accomplishment.

RE Atkin's shakes, they are probally ok, but they are expensive. I

would order some samples of better ones at www.vitalady.com or

www.wlssuccess.com Both offer virtually the same products and are

secure sites. (but vitalady is our friend and you might want to be

loyal to her!) ;O)

You are going to want to have some calcium citrate at home (don't

buy tums even if the surgeon says they are ok, they are not!)

You might want to consider buying some Gas X for home, cause passing

that gas is very hard at first.

Buy sugar free jello (plenty), crystal lite, broth, sf pudding,

applesauce, sf hot chocolate, etc for the liquid stage.

Buy a good children's chewable vitamin (with iron). Make sure that

it doesn't have any sugar in it.

You may want to consider buying some Milk of Magnesia to get things

going for after you come home from the hospital. Also ask your

doctor about Colace (a stool softener), comes in handy.

I would also suggest buying a big water bottle, as in like a 24

ounce one, makes it easy to guage how much water you are getting in

(ie, at first I would just simply make sure that I drank at least 3

bottles a day, ensuring that I got enough water in...it is kinda

hard to drink water at first, you have to sip continually during the

day).

Gosh that is all I can think of right now. Anyone else?

~Kricket Lap RNY 11-13-02

298/182/145 5'7 "

> Hi all, I am going in for my surgery in one week. I have been

using

> the Atkins protein shakes to get use to no food but am looking to

> find if any one has a list of things to get to be prepared at home

> and in the hospital. Help is all I need now.

>

> Wilda

[Guest guest]

I would also suggest s/f popsicles and oatmeal or Malt-O-Meal and add some flax

seed with it. Beth

Kricket kricketgirl68@...> wrote:Hello,

Congrats on having a surgery date! That's a great accomplishment.

RE Atkin's shakes, they are probally ok, but they are expensive. I

would order some samples of better ones at www.vitalady.com or

www.wlssuccess.com Both offer virtually the same products and are

secure sites. (but vitalady is our friend and you might want to be

loyal to her!) ;O)

You are going to want to have some calcium citrate at home (don't

buy tums even if the surgeon says they are ok, they are not!)

You might want to consider buying some Gas X for home, cause passing

that gas is very hard at first.

Buy sugar free jello (plenty), crystal lite, broth, sf pudding,

applesauce, sf hot chocolate, etc for the liquid stage.

Buy a good children's chewable vitamin (with iron). Make sure that

it doesn't have any sugar in it.

You may want to consider buying some Milk of Magnesia to get things

going for after you come home from the hospital. Also ask your

doctor about Colace (a stool softener), comes in handy.

I would also suggest buying a big water bottle, as in like a 24

ounce one, makes it easy to guage how much water you are getting in

(ie, at first I would just simply make sure that I drank at least 3

bottles a day, ensuring that I got enough water in...it is kinda

hard to drink water at first, you have to sip continually during the

day).

Gosh that is all I can think of right now. Anyone else?

~Kricket Lap RNY 11-13-02

298/182/145 5'7 "

> Hi all, I am going in for my surgery in one week. I have been

using

> the Atkins protein shakes to get use to no food but am looking to

> find if any one has a list of things to get to be prepared at home

> and in the hospital. Help is all I need now.

>

> Wilda

Check out our website at: http://www.geocities.com/proteinpervs/

For recipe information go to our database:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OSSG-Protein/database

[Guest guest]

I would also suggest s/f popsicles and oatmeal or Malt-O-Meal and add some flax

seed with it. Beth

Kricket kricketgirl68@...> wrote:Hello,

Congrats on having a surgery date! That's a great accomplishment.

RE Atkin's shakes, they are probally ok, but they are expensive. I

would order some samples of better ones at www.vitalady.com or

www.wlssuccess.com Both offer virtually the same products and are

secure sites. (but vitalady is our friend and you might want to be

loyal to her!) ;O)

You are going to want to have some calcium citrate at home (don't

buy tums even if the surgeon says they are ok, they are not!)

You might want to consider buying some Gas X for home, cause passing

that gas is very hard at first.

Buy sugar free jello (plenty), crystal lite, broth, sf pudding,

applesauce, sf hot chocolate, etc for the liquid stage.

Buy a good children's chewable vitamin (with iron). Make sure that

it doesn't have any sugar in it.

You may want to consider buying some Milk of Magnesia to get things

going for after you come home from the hospital. Also ask your

doctor about Colace (a stool softener), comes in handy.

I would also suggest buying a big water bottle, as in like a 24

ounce one, makes it easy to guage how much water you are getting in

(ie, at first I would just simply make sure that I drank at least 3

bottles a day, ensuring that I got enough water in...it is kinda

hard to drink water at first, you have to sip continually during the

day).

Gosh that is all I can think of right now. Anyone else?

~Kricket Lap RNY 11-13-02

298/182/145 5'7 "

> Hi all, I am going in for my surgery in one week. I have been

using

> the Atkins protein shakes to get use to no food but am looking to

> find if any one has a list of things to get to be prepared at home

> and in the hospital. Help is all I need now.

>

> Wilda

Check out our website at: http://www.geocities.com/proteinpervs/

For recipe information go to our database:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OSSG-Protein/database

[Guest guest]

To add to the stuff to have at home after surgery:

SUGAR FREE POPSICLES !!!

I would have died without them !!!And chewable Phayzyme(anti gas)..

I wouldn't worry about the vitamins too much the first few 5-7 days, because

your new tummy will have a bit of a hard time at first..But them definitely,

get a good chewable one..I did well with Centrum chewable, for the first 8

weeks, then went to prenatals, twice a day, and still lost 50% of my hair,

with 130 gm of protein daily..

But wala !!! 6 months out, a(almost) and it's all coming back...

I didn't care if I ended up bald !!(guess I'd Tattoo roses on my head or

something)..Good luck And Congratulations !!!! , in Haines city, FL.