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In a message dated 10/31/99 9:11:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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Hi All,

Here is a little heads up on the cheese/carbs thing!! Thought you all might

be interested!!!

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Thanks for the info Penny!

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Tofutti's cheese substitutes taste good & melt. Tofutti cannot

guarantee gfcf. Some kids eat it w/o problems. Some kids react -

maybe due to other additives or soy, or maybe trace contamination.

> I checked at the store and the soy cheese they had does contain

casein. None of the cheese substitutes without it that I have found

taste very good. Is there a good tasting substitute somewhere?

>

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Would we find those at the grocery store or at a local health food store?

I've never heard of Tofutti but I've only been doing this for a few weeks so

that's probably why. Right now, we are just removing the dairy from my

daughter's diet. She loves cheese so I would love to be able to give her a

substitute.

~Amy

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My goal for 2001: 100 pages

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> Try the Tofutti cheeses, they are not bad at all and come in all flavors.

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Would we find those at the grocery store or at a local health food store?

I've never heard of Tofutti but I've only been doing this for a few weeks so

that's probably why. Right now, we are just removing the dairy from my

daughter's diet. She loves cheese so I would love to be able to give her a

substitute.

~Amy

Pages scrapped in 2001: 12

My goal for 2001: 100 pages

Check out our family webpage!

www.boswellfamily.homestead.com

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> Try the Tofutti cheeses, they are not bad at all and come in all flavors.

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The mozzarella or parmesan in most dishes it for flavor/taste. So if

you don't want it, and you're happy with the results, simply leave it

out. I like a little cheese now and then, but I don't eat it everyday.

Bob

>

> I am spending a fortune on cheese. How do the rest of you deal with

this? Is cheese really that important on SB, I am thinking of cutting

it out. It is high in calories and I am at a stand still with my

weight loss. Why is it necessary to put cheese in quiches, omelets,

etc? I use cottage cheese, isn't that enough? why do we need to add

the mozzarella or parsemean to most dishes? Also, my bad snacking

habits have me munching on to much cheese between meals.

>

>

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You do not have to eat anything you don't want to eat. You don't need to

eat cheese or put it in anything. If you don't want to eat it, don't. In

most people, me included, it causes me to gain weight, and causes me

terrible constipation. There's nothing on the list you have to eat. Just

eat what you want to. Carol

B wrote:

> I am spending a fortune on cheese. How do the rest of you deal with

> this? Is cheese really that important on SB, I am thinking of cutting

> it out. It is high in calories and I am at a stand still with my

> weight loss. Why is it necessary to put cheese in quiches, omelets,

> etc? I use cottage cheese, isn't that enough? why do we need to add

> the mozzarella or parsemean to most dishes? Also, my bad snacking

> habits have me munching on to much cheese between meals.

>

>

>

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I have been eating cheese, those mozzarella sticks from day one. I thought it

was a requirement of some sort. I guess it is time to reread the SB book again!

Re: CHEESE

You do not have to eat anything you don't want to eat. You don't need to

eat cheese or put it in anything. If you don't want to eat it, don't. In

most people, me included, it causes me to gain weight, and causes me

terrible constipation. There's nothing on the list you have to eat. Just

eat what you want to. Carol

B wrote:

> I am spending a fortune on cheese. How do the rest of you deal with

> this? Is cheese really that important on SB, I am thinking of cutting

> it out. It is high in calories and I am at a stand still with my

> weight loss. Why is it necessary to put cheese in quiches, omelets,

> etc? I use cottage cheese, isn't that enough? why do we need to add

> the mozzarella or parsemean to most dishes? Also, my bad snacking

> habits have me munching on to much cheese between meals.

>

>

>

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Hi -

You're right, the way the book is worded, it almost seems like

eating those mozzarella sticks is a requirement. And yes, in Phase

1, you are pretty restricted, so they do make a convenient high-

protein snack that holds you over until lunch. However, you can

substitute things like:

- a small handful of sunflower kernels

- 4 oz. cup cottage cheese (since you said you do enjoy that)

- cup of plain, nonfat yogurt with sweetener and vanilla

- peanut butter or hummus on celery sticks

- cucumber slices w/hummus

And the bonus is - those are all Phase 1 legal! (but I still enjoy

them in P2.)

Hope this helps -

Nikki

>

> > I am spending a fortune on cheese. How do the rest of you

deal with

> > this? Is cheese really that important on SB, I am thinking of

cutting

> > it out. It is high in calories and I am at a stand still with

my

> > weight loss. Why is it necessary to put cheese in quiches,

omelets,

> > etc? I use cottage cheese, isn't that enough? why do we need

to add

> > the mozzarella or parsemean to most dishes? Also, my bad

snacking

> > habits have me munching on to much cheese between meals.

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ;

There is no specific food requirement that must be consumed daily on

SBD. SBD requires we eat plenty of veggies, protein and dairy

daily. But nothing in the book that says snacks must consist of a

mozzarella cheese stick. That's just a suggestion.

Donna

>

> > I am spending a fortune on cheese. How do the rest of you deal

with

> > this? Is cheese really that important on SB, I am thinking of

cutting

> > it out. It is high in calories and I am at a stand still with

my

> > weight loss. Why is it necessary to put cheese in quiches,

omelets,

> > etc? I use cottage cheese, isn't that enough? why do we need

to add

> > the mozzarella or parsemean to most dishes? Also, my bad

snacking

> > habits have me munching on to much cheese between meals.

> >

> >

> >

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I have been on phase 2 since April and do enjoy all those treats as well. I

guess I should just cut out the cheese.

Re: CHEESE

Hi -

You're right, the way the book is worded, it almost seems like

eating those mozzarella sticks is a requirement. And yes, in Phase

1, you are pretty restricted, so they do make a convenient high-

protein snack that holds you over until lunch. However, you can

substitute things like:

- a small handful of sunflower kernels

- 4 oz. cup cottage cheese (since you said you do enjoy that)

- cup of plain, nonfat yogurt with sweetener and vanilla

- peanut butter or hummus on celery sticks

- cucumber slices w/hummus

And the bonus is - those are all Phase 1 legal! (but I still enjoy

them in P2.)

Hope this helps -

Nikki

>

> > I am spending a fortune on cheese. How do the rest of you

deal with

> > this? Is cheese really that important on SB, I am thinking of

cutting

> > it out. It is high in calories and I am at a stand still with

my

> > weight loss. Why is it necessary to put cheese in quiches,

omelets,

> > etc? I use cottage cheese, isn't that enough? why do we need

to add

> > the mozzarella or parsemean to most dishes? Also, my bad

snacking

> > habits have me munching on to much cheese between meals.

> >

> >

> >

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Hello. Can anyone help me? I know what types of

cheeses are listed as legal, but does this mean that I

can buy any brand of cheddar or colby, etc... from the

regular supermarket? How do I know what has not been

manufactured? I saw refernce in one location that

cheese must be aged 60 days, but that was the only

place I saw that comment. This can be confusing for

a neophyte such as myself. I of course want to follow

the SCD as specifically as possible.

P.S. thanks for the Dr. list Grammy

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> Hello. Can anyone help me? I know what types of

> cheeses are listed as legal, but does this mean that I

> can buy any brand of cheddar or colby, etc... from the

> regular supermarket? How do I know what has not been

> manufactured? I saw refernce in one location that

> cheese must be aged 60 days, but that was the only

> place I saw that comment. This can be confusing for

> a neophyte such as myself. I of course want to follow

> the SCD as specifically as possible.

>

,

Cheeses now only need to be aged 30 days and are listed on page 180 of " Breaking

the

Vicious Cycle. "

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:44:33 -0000 " carolfrilegh "

c.frilegh@...> writes:

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> >

> > Hello. Can anyone help me? I know what types of

> > cheeses are listed as legal, but does this mean that I

> > can buy any brand of cheddar or colby, etc... from the

> > regular supermarket? How do I know what has not been

> > manufactured? I saw refernce in one location that

> > cheese must be aged 60 days, but that was the only

> > place I saw that comment. This can be confusing for

> > a neophyte such as myself. I of course want to follow

> > the SCD as specifically as possible.

> >

> ,

> Cheeses now only need to be aged 30 days and are listed on page 180

> of " Breaking the

> Vicious Cycle. "

And it's recommended that you not buy grated cheese due to starches added

to prevent caking. (Do I have it right?) I'm not sure if this applies to

all grated cheese.

Take care, Fay

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Hi ,

> Hello. Can anyone help me? I know what types of

> cheeses are listed as legal, but does this mean that I

> can buy any brand of cheddar or colby, etc... from the

> regular supermarket?

Yes. But you want just cheddar or colby - no " flavoured cheeses

with cranberries (may have sugar), wine or other " extras " ; no

Lite/light cheeses and no pregrated/shredded commercial cheeses.

What is okay is parmesan that is locally grated that you are sure

has no free flow agents added. I buy some from my stores deli and

they grate it on-site.

How do I know what has not been

> manufactured? I saw refernce in one location that

> cheese must be aged 60 days, but that was the only

> place I saw that comment.

Legal cheese:

1.Not processed (example: Krafts Cheez Whiz )

2.at least 30 days aged

3.has a bacterial culture

If still unsure ask about a specific one.

Sheila, SCD 58 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 43 mos

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Hi Jill,

How have your daughters symptoms been? What else is she eating? Has

she had dairy preSCD?

Sheila

> My daughter has been on the SCD diet since June. Is it okay to try

> and introduce cheddar, swiss and the other " legal " cheeses now? I

am

> also trying goat yogurt.

>

> If she doesn't tolerate it, what would be the signs of this? Would

it

> be behavioral or different stools, or something else? Thanks, Jill

>

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Hi Jill,

How have your daughters symptoms been? What else is she eating? Has

she had dairy preSCD?

Sheila

> My daughter has been on the SCD diet since June. Is it okay to try

> and introduce cheddar, swiss and the other " legal " cheeses now? I

am

> also trying goat yogurt.

>

> If she doesn't tolerate it, what would be the signs of this? Would

it

> be behavioral or different stools, or something else? Thanks, Jill

>

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Hi Jill,

How have your daughters symptoms been? What else is she eating? Has

she had dairy preSCD?

Sheila

> My daughter has been on the SCD diet since June. Is it okay to try

> and introduce cheddar, swiss and the other " legal " cheeses now? I

am

> also trying goat yogurt.

>

> If she doesn't tolerate it, what would be the signs of this? Would

it

> be behavioral or different stools, or something else? Thanks, Jill

>

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> Hi Jill,

>

> How have your daughters symptoms been? What else is she eating?

Has

> she had dairy preSCD?

>

> Sheila

Sheila...my daughter was not eating cheese prior to SCD because she

was casein and gluten free. But, according to Elaine's book, she

should be able to eat cheese now...right? Or is that not true of

kids with ASD, even though they are on the diet? My daughter seems

to be doing okay with cheese (I have given her a little cheddar

every other day), although she has been laughing more than usual.

Could that be a sign of intolerance? ~Jill

>

> > My daughter has been on the SCD diet since June. Is it okay to

try

> > and introduce cheddar, swiss and the other " legal " cheeses now?

I

> am

> > also trying goat yogurt.

> >

> > If she doesn't tolerate it, what would be the signs of this?

Would

> it

> > be behavioral or different stools, or something else? Thanks,

Jill

> >

>

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> Hi Jill,

>

> How have your daughters symptoms been? What else is she eating?

Has

> she had dairy preSCD?

>

> Sheila

Sheila...my daughter was not eating cheese prior to SCD because she

was casein and gluten free. But, according to Elaine's book, she

should be able to eat cheese now...right? Or is that not true of

kids with ASD, even though they are on the diet? My daughter seems

to be doing okay with cheese (I have given her a little cheddar

every other day), although she has been laughing more than usual.

Could that be a sign of intolerance? ~Jill

>

> > My daughter has been on the SCD diet since June. Is it okay to

try

> > and introduce cheddar, swiss and the other " legal " cheeses now?

I

> am

> > also trying goat yogurt.

> >

> > If she doesn't tolerate it, what would be the signs of this?

Would

> it

> > be behavioral or different stools, or something else? Thanks,

Jill

> >

>

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We usually recommend that children who have been casein free, remain

that way until their diet and symptoms have stabilized. That way it

is easier to see whether dairy is tolerated or not.

Many ASD kids try goat dairy first.

A few ASD kids tolerate cow's milk products.

More tolerate goat's milk products.

Many don't tolerate either.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

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Hi Jill,

> Sheila...my daughter was not eating cheese prior to SCD because she

> was casein and gluten free. But, according to Elaine's book, she

> should be able to eat cheese now...right? Or is that not true of

> kids with ASD, even though they are on the diet? My daughter seems

> to be doing okay with cheese (I have given her a little cheddar

> every other day), although she has been laughing more than usual.

> Could that be a sign of intolerance? ~Jill

> >

> > > My daughter has been on the SCD diet since June. Is it okay to

Was the cheddar goat or cow cheddar?

Sheila

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Hi Jill,

> Sheila...my daughter was not eating cheese prior to SCD because she

> was casein and gluten free. But, according to Elaine's book, she

> should be able to eat cheese now...right? Or is that not true of

> kids with ASD, even though they are on the diet? My daughter seems

> to be doing okay with cheese (I have given her a little cheddar

> every other day), although she has been laughing more than usual.

> Could that be a sign of intolerance? ~Jill

> >

> > > My daughter has been on the SCD diet since June. Is it okay to

Was the cheddar goat or cow cheddar?

Sheila

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