Re: addictions

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You shared your story with us I will share mine. I got married overweight at 18

at 24 I decided I would find away to have this surgery done and I did. My

husband went off to Korea for almost 2 years leaving me alone with 3 kids.My

addictin I could say was many after about a year of feeling dpressed because

husband went away trying to deal with the kids on my own we decided we would

seperated even though we really aready were. I started going out all the time,

that was one of my addictions right there I felt I had to get out for 8 years I

had been the good wife putting up with alcoholism, adultry and much more. I

loved all the attention from men. But the alcohol always made me feel horrible

giving me really bad heart burn. There were times when I would go out of a bar

or club and make myself throwup other times I had to rush to the gas statiion to

down some milk or malox. Then came the real drug estasy, for me this was

perfect. It didn't make me feel like I was having a heart attack, I don't think

it hit me as hard as others because of the way we absorb things but I felt good

and I did this drug often 3-4 times a week. I knew that it could kill me in a

instant, I know that it could still of caused holes in my brain but I didn't

care. My husband came back in April of last year, we decided to get back

together in July we had a new baby in March of this year. I have not done drugs

sincee may of 2001, my husband still is an alcoholic we argue all the time

because he wants us to go out. I would rather not put myself in that position

just because I know how the alcohol will affect me. Dawn

[Guest guest]

A quick question then I will drop this....

You said you have no sympathy for the drug addict or alcoholic but do you have

sympathy for the 350 person?

MB

Re: addictions

But the alcoholic never HAS to take that first drink. We all know the

dangers of alcohol. We all know the dangers of drugs. We all know the dangers

of smoking. We all know the dangers of being overweight. The difference is, we

don't have to start smoking, drinking or doing drugs. We HAVE to have food.

Often we are brought up eating unhealthy from childhood - so we're addicted to

the bad stuff from an early age. As we grow older we get conflicting reports -

this is good, then it's bad, then it's good again, then it's bad.....so we're

confused about what to eat and what not to eat. We buy diet foods, thinking

we're making better choices, only to find out that some of the so-called " diet "

foods are worse for us than the regular stuff we'd been eating. So we get a

little more confused.

A lot of people that are overweight are not overweight because they gorgue

themselves on Oreo's/cookies/cakes, etc. They are overweight because of other

reasons - because they don't know when to STOP eating, or they are emotional

eaters, or whatever.

If it is as simple as choosing the right food, then why are we all here?

-Chris

-Beth hayescol@...> wrote:

I have to say I do not agree with the logic. We have to eat yes...but do we

have to eat the bad stuff? We know Mcs/double stuffed

Oreo's/cookies/cakes are bad just like the alcoholic knows liquor is bad for

them. We know we are growing larger, our clothes not fitting us, we do not have

the stamina we once had, we have joint problems, heart problems, diabetics but

yet we still eat what is bad for us.

MB

I don't have a lot of sympathy for anyone addicted to booze, drugs, or

cigarettes. (Hope I don't offend anyone.) I mean, we HAVE to eat to live. We

can't just give it up. But everyone knows the dangers of smoking, taking drugs,

or drinking. Yet the choose to start anyway.

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[Guest guest]

I don't recall saying it was DIFFERENT. What I said was that they didn't have

to start in the first place.........

Bad food is addictive, sure.

Again, the difference is that the drug addict didn't have to take that pill or

pick up that needle, and the alcoholic didn't have to take that first drink.

The difference is also that the drug addict/alcoholic KNOWS it's bad for them.

The food addict, often times, may think they're making wise choices when in

reality they are not. You have to make wiser choices with food - you can't just

stop it all together.

-Chris

-Beth hayescol@...> wrote:

When you are not hungry but continue to eat on a regular basis for other

reasons...comfort, craving, emotions, peer pressure knowing it is bad for you,

how is that different from the drug addict or alcoholic who can't stop?

MB

Re: addictions

But the alcoholic never HAS to take that first drink. We all know the dangers

of alcohol. We all know the dangers of drugs. We all know the dangers of

smoking. We all know the dangers of being overweight. The difference is, we

don't have to start smoking, drinking or doing drugs. We HAVE to have food.

Often we are brought up eating unhealthy from childhood - so we're addicted to

the bad stuff from an early age. As we grow older we get conflicting reports -

this is good, then it's bad, then it's good again, then it's bad.....so we're

confused about what to eat and what not to eat. We buy diet foods, thinking

we're making better choices, only to find out that some of the so-called " diet "

foods are worse for us than the regular stuff we'd been eating. So we get a

little more confused.

A lot of people that are overweight are not overweight because they gorgue

themselves on Oreo's/cookies/cakes, etc. They are overweight because of other

reasons - because they don't know when to STOP eating, or they are emotional

eaters, or whatever.

If it is as simple as choosing the right food, then why are we all here?

-Chris

-Beth hayescol@...> wrote:

I have to say I do not agree with the logic. We have to eat yes...but do we

have to eat the bad stuff? We know Mcs/double stuffed

Oreo's/cookies/cakes are bad just like the alcoholic knows liquor is bad for

them. We know we are growing larger, our clothes not fitting us, we do not have

the stamina we once had, we have joint problems, heart problems, diabetics but

yet we still eat what is bad for us.

MB

I don't have a lot of sympathy for anyone addicted to booze, drugs, or

cigarettes. (Hope I don't offend anyone.) I mean, we HAVE to eat to live. We

can't just give it up. But everyone knows the dangers of smoking, taking drugs,

or drinking. Yet the choose to start anyway.

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[Guest guest]

But the overeater is often brought up on junk food. How many people do you know

that never had any junk food at all until they were adults? Most of us were

given that first bite of ice cream or cookies or chocolate or potato chips as

toddlers.......

ann maryann127@...> wrote: And the overweight person doesn't have

to have that first bite of cake

or ice cream or cookies or chocolate or potato chips, but they do

anyway. I don't know anyone who got fat overeating broccoli or

chicken.

ann

>

> I don't recall saying it was DIFFERENT. What I said was that they

didn't have to start in the first place.........

>

> Bad food is addictive, sure.

>

> Again, the difference is that the drug addict didn't have to take

that pill or pick up that needle, and the alcoholic didn't have to

take that first drink. The difference is also that the drug

addict/alcoholic KNOWS it's bad for them. The food addict, often

times, may think they're making wise choices when in reality they are

not. You have to make wiser choices with food - you can't just stop

it all together.

>

> -Chris

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