Re: Diabetes help/off topic

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Threeds,

go to http://www.sboutdoors.com/health/preface.html " >The

Schwarzbein Principle - Preface

http://www.sboutdoors.com/health/preface.html

Print it out and let them read it. It will change their minds, I think,

Also as far as diabetic eating goes, he needs to stay away from carbs, they

turn to glucose fast in your body and your insulin can not compensate for it.

so he has to take insulin or pills, and then if he is trying to eat the ADA

diet he will be eating 300 carbs a day!!! Its rediculous!! making the sick,

sicker!! This is a sore point with me!! I know for a long time people thought

it was the right thing to do, but now that everyone knows it makes diabetics

sicker and sicker why do they keep insisting it works!! :::Getting off

soapbox::: Sorry all but I had to vent that!!

I wish I could recommend somthing that would work for him, Just tell her some

of the Atkins recipes but don;t tell her it is Atkins! Maybe that will

work???? Go to my LC links web site, there are many recipe sites and a

diabetic site there, Sorry I couldn't help more!! the link is at the end of

my signature

Hugs,

Penny

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hi treeds, this is iris, ithandi@.... i am a diabetic. if your

stepfather has adult onset diabetes, he probably is a type 11. type 11 usually

means you become diabetic as an adult most of the time after 40 but sometimes

before. it also means you take pills instead of insulin but many type 11

diabetics take insulin shots. the doctors will tell you nothing except loose

the weight. i'm assuming your stepfather is overweight. if he is loosing the

weight will help. the diabetic food plan the dieticians and doctors will tell

you about is not only impossible to follow, but wrong, wrong. the diet they

tell you about will insure that you keep coming to them. for pills, for

checkups, for footdoctors, for all kinds of care costing money so they can pay

for their palacial estates. instead of telling you how to cure, yes cure, type

11 diabetes can be cured or at least disappear, they cover it up with insulin

and pills. a continuation of the insulin will make you fat. insulin that goes

into the body, grabs the fat cells and stores them. all of a sudden you are 100

pounds over what you were and you don't know how you got there. taking insulin

will also help bring on the diabetic complications. insulin is missing a key

component for the diabetic which is c-peptide. it is not replaced in insulin and

when the diabetic does not secrete enought insulin they are lacking in this

because it is not put in to the insulin that people take by injection.

the doctors and dieticians and doctors, who by the way only had one hour on

nutrician, and most of them were late exactly one hour that day, will tell you

to have a carbohydrate diet with a little meat. ask one, they'll tell you that

now. when i was in the hospital when they were trying to get my blood sugar down

when they told me i had diabetes, they put me on a 2000 calorie diet with mac &

cheese, vege lazasna, and all sorts of carbohydrates. my blood sugar would not

go down. me not knowing much about the diabetic diet, told them to lower my

calorie intake because they told me to eat everything because i was taking

insulin. can you believe that. the finally lowered it after two days and they

still gave me lots of carbohydrates. when i left the hospital the day after, my

blood sugar went all the way down. they even said they were going to let me out

to see if it went down. it did.\

i have been eating very little carbohydrates now for several months. i am not so

strict that i am loosing a lot of weight. i was loosing in the beginning and i

will again. but i do not eat any starches, i have now given up cashews, i an a

vegetarian but i eat eggs, and egg beaters or other egg substitute. i eat soy

products like soy ground beef, which you may not be able to tell the difference

from real ground beef and it is fat free. soy hot dogs, they are even making egg

salad out of soy, soy is really a healthy healthy product. you can get these in

the product department of your supermarket. i use pam or the equilvant, and i

can't believe it's butter spray on my salads and veges. i eat tons of lettuce,

kale, and spinach in my salad. receipe: get a plate or large bowl. break the

lettuce, kale,(which has mega vitamins and minerals) spinach and whatever other

greens you like, pour salad dressing over it, make sure you get regular salad

dressing with either 1 or less than 1 carb. in a bowl mix 1 real egg with as

much egg substitute you want, add seasonings, onion, garlic, green pepper, black

pepper, curry, and whatever else you can think of, add one third package of the

vege ground beef or whatever meat you want to add, and add the cheese as you

like it. mix it up and put it in a pam sprayed frying pan. you can either

scramble them or leave it like an omelet. when it's finished, put it on top of

the plate of lettuce. it will be one of the greatest meals you ever tasted. also

since they said tomato with oil is good for you, i have been buying sauce.

classico tomato alfredo is the lowest in carbs that i have found. you can put

several spoonfuls of that on top of your eggs. i hope this helps. karen and i

want to start a special chat with diabetics who are on the atkins diet. let me

hear from you. iris

Diabetes help/off topic

Hi everyone. This is a plea for help from all of the diabetics out there. My

stepfather is a diabetic, I'm not sure what type, and has not been good about

following an appropriate eating plan. My mother is struggling to cook for him

without any guidelines. I would like some input as far as books to recommend to

her, and possibly a suggestion for an easy cookbook. She is a very good cook,

but would like recipes for simple, country things.

Apparently their doctors have not given them any guidelines about his

eating, so they are very unsure of what he is allowed to have and what will harm

him. I know, I would change doctors too, but you know how some people are .

Any help that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I am so sorry to

bring this up since I know it is really not on topic for this list, but I also

know how wonderful all of you are about helping people, and I know there are

several diabetics on the list.

I have tried unsuccessfully so far to get him on the Atkins WOL, but can't

get him to commit. But you can bet, I will keep trying. Thanks in advance for

any help you can send my way.

Sorry so long,

Threeds

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treeds this is iris again, i forgot to tell you that i had been taking 50 units

of insulin i don't know how many times a day, actually, whenever i ate

something. my blood sugars have been the lowest in over ten years since i

stopped eating starches and very low carbs. my swollen feet went down and i can

tell the difference physically. iris

Diabetes help/off topic

Hi everyone. This is a plea for help from all of the diabetics out

there. My stepfather is a diabetic, I'm not sure what type, and has not been

good about following an appropriate eating plan. My mother is struggling to cook

for him without any guidelines. I would like some input as far as books to

recommend to her, and possibly a suggestion for an easy cookbook. She is a very

good cook, but would like recipes for simple, country things.

Apparently their doctors have not given them any guidelines about his

eating, so they are very unsure of what he is allowed to have and what will harm

him. I know, I would change doctors too, but you know how some people are .

Any help that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I am so sorry to

bring this up since I know it is really not on topic for this list, but I also

know how wonderful all of you are about helping people, and I know there are

several diabetics on the list.

I have tried unsuccessfully so far to get him on the Atkins WOL, but

can't get him to commit. But you can bet, I will keep trying. Thanks in advance

for any help you can send my way.

Sorry so long,

Threeds