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Jean,

All these symptoms are normal, People seem to yoyo and get hot flashes, they

all seem to stop when you get into the diet a little more. I don;t know why

you have them now and not before.

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I am in ketosis now but not losing very fast as I anticipated. I know we are

better off losing slow. It seems like I have been at 169/172 forever. This

morning looks like I made it to 168 but I have been yo-yoing for sometime

between 169 to 172 so we'll see.

I have been having hot flashes really bad. I went thru menopause 3 years

ago. I had the flashes but they had stopped. Now they are worse than ever

since going on these woes. I also am depressed and anxious. I had lost 30

pounds or so before doing atkins and just slowly went into it. I didn't just

jump into ketosis. Everyone talks about feeling good. I did get a flu shot

last WEd. I began vitamins 2 days ago. I hope that makes the difference.

Also I feel like I'm smothering some. I read that could be potassium so I

have also added it. Well, I guess that's my update. My e-mail has been

offline for 2 days.....Jean 201/168/130...

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I think, and this might just be the skeptical side of me, that they say that

to draw people away from Atkins, to CAD, with fear. Does that sound to

skeptical??? Thats just the way I think I guess, there is a lot of money in

these diets! do y'all think I am way off base?

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I agree but like someone else said every low carb

protien diet has to be different to get publiched,

and everyone wants ppl to use there diet not someone

elses.

--- Shadcat708@... wrote:

> I think, and this might just be the skeptical side

> of me, that they say that

> to draw people away from Atkins, to CAD, with fear.

> Does that sound to

> skeptical??? Thats just the way I think I guess,

> there is a lot of money in

> these diets! do y'all think I am way off base?

>

> Hugs

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Penny --

I would really hate to think that pulling people away from Atkins was their

motivation, but you might be right. I think one of the real problems is that

in 30 years Atkins has not done any research; all of his results are

anecdotal. That makes medical folks crazy.

What gives me comfort is that endocrinologists are putting their diabetes

patients on this diet or one of the variations. Doesn't the body have

systems for removing poisons? Isn't that why we're all drinking 9 gallons of

water a day, and spending a quater of our lives peeing?

Ah well.....

Keeping my chins up,

Gail

Chicago

In a message dated 10/11/99 10:49:32 PM Central Daylight Time,

Shadcat708@... writes:

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> I think, and this might just be the skeptical side of me, that they say

that

>

> to draw people away from Atkins, to CAD, with fear. Does that sound to

> skeptical??? Thats just the way I think I guess, there is a lot of money

in

> these diets! do y'all think I am way off base?

>

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Penny, I hadn't thought of this, but what you say makes a great deal of

sense! I saw the Oprah program about CAD, and thought to myself that yet

another person is jumping on the low carb sensation that seems to be so

popular these days. As you say, there's a lot of money to be made in the

weight loss industry! It amazes me how many infomercials there are on this

topic.

P.

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Jean,

Did you measure yourself?? Maybe you are losing inches, it is possible to

lose inches and not lose on the scale, I didn;t measure and I wish I had, Any

one just starting you should measure your self as another way to check if

your losing, Also if your in ketosis, your losing fat, it just takes a while

for it to register!!

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Jean no it isnt your body tones itself when you

lose weight so your losing somewhere inches toneing

as long as your in ketosis.

--- Camilla Jean jaimee@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone, I am still in ketosis from trace to

> moderate but the scales

> don't drop. Isn't that odd? Well, I am still trying.

> Has anyone had any

> problems with stalls while on splenda.....Jean

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Hi everyone, I am still in ketosis from trace to moderate but the scales

don't drop. Isn't that odd? Well, I am still trying. Has anyone had any

problems with stalls while on splenda.....Jean

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Hi Kathy -

No, it's not Aspartame that's stalling me - I haven't been using any

artificial sweeteners since I was afraid it would stall me. It may

have been cheese, as I've heard some people say that stalls them, so

I'm trying to stay off of that. Of course I have lost 8 pounds even

though I'm usually not in ketosis but I'm not losing much right now -

I'm not sure if I should just be patient and wait or if I should try

to go on the " meat diet " that I've heard people talk about, for a few

days. Probably I just need to be more patient and see how it goes -

since you say you lost 3 pounds last week after a couple of weeks of

only 1 pound - maybe I just need to give it some time.

I'm not going to worry about ketosis if I'm losing weight.

Zoe

>

>

>

>Zoe -

>

>Thanks for the info about spaghetti squash, I'm going to try to get some

>this weekend.

>

>I also saw you message about having a hard time getting into ketosis and

>wondering if it is Aspartame. I have heard alot of people say too much can

>stall them, and I was planning to cut back on mine too. I use it in my

>decaf, but absolutely don't want to have to give that up! Then I started

>adding a little more fat into my diet, and poof! I'm in ketosis! Without

>giving up my coffee/koolaid. Now, YMMV, but I think I was eating too much

>salad (left over low-fat mindset)! So now I try to have pepperoni or

>sausage every day, and it's taken care of itself. After 2 weeks in a row of

>only loosing 1 pound, I lost 3 last week!

>

>Hope this helps you!

>

>- K in SC

>174/162/144

Zoe Sodja

Document Publishing & Editing Center

UC Santa Cruz

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Hi

I do it, mainly cause it's nice to know that even when you're not showing a

loss, you're still on course. I'm also still a little wishy washy on carb

counts (I've got a book coming) so I want to make sure I'm not going over

board

Sue

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You know you don't have to be in ketosis to lose weight, it is just a guide

line I think. I know I always feel better seeing that purple color, but if I

don't see it, I still feel ok about it,

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In a message dated 11/10/99 12:05:16 PM Central Standard Time,

Shadcat708@... writes:

<< I know I always feel better seeing that purple color >>

Mine are usually a mauve color, and it is my absolute favorite color in the

world now...LOL

Theresa in Texas

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--

I used to test every evening. Now, I only test if I've lost track of my carb

count -- you know, one of those grey moments.... lol

HTH

Gail

Chicago

In a message dated 11/9/99 9:47:05 PM Central Standard Time,

Schaumburgmom@... writes:

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> Speaking of Ketosis, do you all do that test strip thing where you check

for

>

> purple to confirm ketosis?

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In a message dated 11/10/99 11:01:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Kathy.Lynch@... writes:

<<

Yes, I check all the time. I've noticed that my deepest color comes in the

evening, around dinner time. Then later at night, before I go to bed, it

will be lighter. Has anyone else experienced that? >>

Mine is the dead opposite! But I tend to drink the majority of water

between 5pm and midnite, pee all night, so morning I'm " cleaned out! "

Sue

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