Re: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

[Guest guest]

a,

My mother in law is nearing her end. Her wishes and our plans are to have her

cremated. She is British and would like her ashes scattered in Abington Park

in Northhampton. Given all this, could the ashes still carry active prions?

Do we risk scattering them in a park? Do we need them in a sealed container,

never to be opened?

Can anyone help us?

Vicki

[Guest guest]

So from reading this,...wouldn't cremation of the body deactivate the prion

just like melting down instruments seems like it would also deactivate

them. Robin

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> From: BevAlso@...

> To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com

> Subject: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:08 AM

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[Guest guest]

How high does the heat have to be to melt metal. I would think that would

render them inactive. Could it be a new recycling business? I have always

wondered this. Surgical instruments being melted down and made again.

In the show The Brain Eaters... Brown buried something in his garden

infected with prions....I can't remember but I suppose it was a brain and

he left if there for three years and they were still some that were active.

Does anyone remember did he destroy it by burning it first or was he just

letting it decompose?

Also all surgical instruments are not metal, is this correct? So should

they just be destroyed by heat?

Another thought in the show didn't they talk about when all the cattle were

being burned in England and the ashes still had active prions in them? Am

I remembering correctly on this one too?

Robin

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> Subject: Re: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:20 AM

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> So from reading this,...wouldn't cremation of the body deactivate the

prion

> just like melting down instruments seems like it would also deactivate

> them. Robin

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> > From: BevAlso@...

> > To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com

> > Subject: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:08 AM

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[Guest guest]

Thats what I was thinking too, that the heat has to be high enough or long

enough for the prions to become inactive. I also wonder how high the heat

goes for cremation. Has a study been done to see what degree it has to be

rendered inactive on a infected brain, obviously they know on instruments

but has anyone seen info on the other? It would be nice to know this for

the people who have their loved-ones and are afraid to spread their ashes

because they are afraid of infectivity.

Robin

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> To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com

> Subject: Re: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:05 PM

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> Robin:

>

> Boy I watched that Nova show months ago and remembering the data.....well

> from what I recall, the ashes do contain infectivity still. I don't

think

> they are burned long enough or at high enough temperature, will research

it

> more thou.

> a G.

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> > To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com

> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 6:50 AM

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> >

> >

> > How high does the heat have to be to melt metal. I would think that

> would

> > render them inactive. Could it be a new recycling business? I have

> always

> > wondered this. Surgical instruments being melted down and made again.

> >

> > In the show The Brain Eaters... Brown buried something in his

garden

> > infected with prions....I can't remember but I suppose it was a brain

and

> > he left if there for three years and they were still some that were

> active.

> > Does anyone remember did he destroy it by burning it first or was he

> just

> > letting it decompose?

> >

> > Also all surgical instruments are not metal, is this correct? So

should

> > they just be destroyed by heat?

> >

> > Another thought in the show didn't they talk about when all the cattle

> were

> > being burned in England and the ashes still had active prions in them?

> Am

> > I remembering correctly on this one too?

> >

> > Robin

> >

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[Guest guest]

Robin:

Boy I watched that Nova show months ago and remembering the data.....well

from what I recall, the ashes do contain infectivity still. I don't think

they are burned long enough or at high enough temperature, will research it

more thou.

a G.

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> To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com

> Subject: Re: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 6:50 AM

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>

>

> How high does the heat have to be to melt metal. I would think that

would

> render them inactive. Could it be a new recycling business? I have

always

> wondered this. Surgical instruments being melted down and made again.

>

> In the show The Brain Eaters... Brown buried something in his garden

> infected with prions....I can't remember but I suppose it was a brain and

> he left if there for three years and they were still some that were

active.

> Does anyone remember did he destroy it by burning it first or was he

just

> letting it decompose?

>

> Also all surgical instruments are not metal, is this correct? So should

> they just be destroyed by heat?

>

> Another thought in the show didn't they talk about when all the cattle

were

> being burned in England and the ashes still had active prions in them?

Am

> I remembering correctly on this one too?

>

> Robin

>

[Guest guest]

Vickie

We were planning on taking my Dad's ashes to the Rocky Mountains next

summer for scattering. Now I'm thinking we should leave them in the

container. Lord, it seems the dammed CJD will run our lives for a very

long time.

Shar

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> From: SOUKUPS@...

> To: cjdvoice (AT) onelist (DOT) com

> Subject: Re: Fwd: Brown's comments on deactivation

> Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 11:54 AM

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> From: SOUKUPS@...

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> a,

>

> My mother in law is nearing her end. Her wishes and our plans are to

have her

> cremated. She is British and would like her ashes scattered in Abington

Park

> in Northhampton. Given all this, could the ashes still carry active

prions?

> Do we risk scattering them in a park? Do we need them in a sealed

container,

> never to be opened?

>

> Can anyone help us?

>

> Vicki

>

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