Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Hi , Thank you for the warm welcome. I have gotten great information from everyone who has posted to me. Everyone who has offered advice has given me information that I didn't know before. I think you finally cleared up this sugar cured question for me. Thank you again! Warmly, Debi At 03:53 PM 10/11/1999 EDT, you wrote: >From: ShopnCook@... > >In a message dated 10/11/1999 10:26:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >shariina@... writes: > ><< Any help you all can give me would be GREATLY appreciated!!!! > > Glad to be here and on Atkins!!!!! ;-D > > Warmly, > Debi >> >Debi...welcome to this list. Support is always here along with lots of >laughs, which, to me, is very important!! >There are so many links and hints for new members just starting out. >I am sure alot will be posted on here, but if you need anymore, I do have >quite a few saved that I will be happy to send your way. >I eat alot of bacon...along with hubby as we are both on this together. >I usually look just at the carb content of that....and still remain in >ketosis. >All smoked meats are cured with a bit of sugar, and while most processed >lunchmeats might put you in a stall, I dont find bacon does to me. >(Ham, yes!!) >I also find that for me, artificial sweeteners stop me from losing, and since >I have given up my beloved Diet Coke, I am better. >Now, hubby can drink it and it doesnt bother h im...so everyone is different, >and you have to experiment. >Anyways...so I dont sound repetitious to others, just ask if you want any >more infor. >T > >>Big and Beutiful is a state of mind, Never let anyone tell you different. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Welcome back! Congrats on the 11.lbs How are you? Lori--- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, " " wrote: > I lost 17 pounds in the six weeks after I was approved and before > surgery and I wasn't doing anything much differently. > > Kind Regards, > > ( " the Barbie Wannabe " ) > email: lindat@f... > website: http://www.fourlane.com/lindat > > STARTING: > Age: 47 > Height: 5'4 " > Weight: 249 lbs. > Surgery May 18, 2000 > Now, May 25 (one week post op) 238 lbs. 11 big ones gone forever! > > > > > He everybody, > > > > I gained three pounds waiting for approval. I have now dropped ten > pounds or > > so. I read some study somewhere that even a ten pound weight loss > before > > surgery is beneficial. Is that true? I hope so. > > > > le > > May 29, 2000 - Bring it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Welcome back! Congrats on the 11.lbs How are you? Lori--- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, " " wrote: > I lost 17 pounds in the six weeks after I was approved and before > surgery and I wasn't doing anything much differently. > > Kind Regards, > > ( " the Barbie Wannabe " ) > email: lindat@f... > website: http://www.fourlane.com/lindat > > STARTING: > Age: 47 > Height: 5'4 " > Weight: 249 lbs. > Surgery May 18, 2000 > Now, May 25 (one week post op) 238 lbs. 11 big ones gone forever! > > > > > He everybody, > > > > I gained three pounds waiting for approval. I have now dropped ten > pounds or > > so. I read some study somewhere that even a ten pound weight loss > before > > surgery is beneficial. Is that true? I hope so. > > > > le > > May 29, 2000 - Bring it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Welcome back! Congrats on the 11.lbs How are you? Lori--- In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, " " wrote: > I lost 17 pounds in the six weeks after I was approved and before > surgery and I wasn't doing anything much differently. > > Kind Regards, > > ( " the Barbie Wannabe " ) > email: lindat@f... > website: http://www.fourlane.com/lindat > > STARTING: > Age: 47 > Height: 5'4 " > Weight: 249 lbs. > Surgery May 18, 2000 > Now, May 25 (one week post op) 238 lbs. 11 big ones gone forever! > > > > > He everybody, > > > > I gained three pounds waiting for approval. I have now dropped ten > pounds or > > so. I read some study somewhere that even a ten pound weight loss > before > > surgery is beneficial. Is that true? I hope so. > > > > le > > May 29, 2000 - Bring it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 > > > He everybody, > > > > > > I gained three pounds waiting for approval. I have now dropped > ten > > pounds or > > > so. I read some study somewhere that even a ten pound weight loss > > before > > > surgery is beneficial. Is that true? I hope so. > > > > > > le > > > May 29, 2000 - Bring it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 > > > He everybody, > > > > > > I gained three pounds waiting for approval. I have now dropped > ten > > pounds or > > > so. I read some study somewhere that even a ten pound weight loss > > before > > > surgery is beneficial. Is that true? I hope so. > > > > > > le > > > May 29, 2000 - Bring it on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 , You are tiny, Man Im jealous. And is it true that I will fill like I can't eat to much in a couple of weeks...That is great news because I can drink forever, and that scares me. I have switched to water, to help cut down on the calories. Don't FLAME ME! I was drinking a few big smoothies a day and soup and yogart..etc.. you will be Barbie For sure in September....Your younger Sis Trisha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 Then, you either eat slowly and small amounts, or you barf. It > does not take a rocket scientist to catch onto this pretty fast Dont get me wrong I m glad for this matter of fact, but.I Dont barf. I never have!!!! I m too selfish! I ve said this my entire life, I m the exception to all cases! I eat fast , gulp chew 95% of my food have drink with food. I guesstamate and know what 3-4 ozs looks like and I stick to that 11 days pO........ L In MiniGastricBypass (AT) e, " " wrote: > > > Explain to me how you feel differently physiologically. > > Your stomach is small and if you eat too much, first it hurts, > then you barf. This doesn't kick in reliably until about the > third or fourth week after surgery, but before that, you either > are so worried about busting your new stomach, you don't eat much, > or you are thinking " my stomach is too big, I can drink *all* this, " > because you can drink more in the 2nd week than later. Scar tissue > forms around the stomach and the hole into the intestine and makes > it where you can *feel* your stomach size much better after that. > Then, you either eat slowly and small amounts, or you barf. It > does not take a rocket scientist to catch onto this pretty fast. > > > >Should I expect > > just to not feel hungry, or have no desire to eat. > > Some of both. You get full much sooner and you aren't hungry as > often, *but* I had a *terrible* time with " head hunger " the > third week (can you tell the third week is a big deal? That's > when you first see real weight loss, it's when you first start > to feel the true limits of your new stomach, and for me, it's > when I had to fight " head hunger " like a demon. Good thing the > barfing kicked in.) " Head hunger " is that habit of opening the > cabinet or refrigerator, looking around, and grabbing whatever > looks good, even though you aren't hungry (and in my case, even > though I was *totally* full and would barf if I ate more). This, > too, is passing, thankfully. > > > Some of the girls are > > saying they don't feel full > > Those are the new post-ops, when you can't feel the limits of > your stomach well, yet. Not to worry, that will change in a > week or so. > > > and they are eating and apparently not > > losing enough. > > It's not from eating, they are just in the first couple of weeks > after surgery when you don't lose weight other than the initial > water-weight loss weight. See my note below my name about that. > We *all* think we're the only ones not losing weight, that we're > " eating too much " (not true, you can't). I started keeping track > of *every morsel* going into my mouth on dietwatch.com, for just > that reason, and discovered I was eating between 350 and 600 > calories a day, virtually no fat. So there is no way I was > " eating too much. " But I wasn't losing weight until the third > week after my surgery (I lost 11 pounds the week of surgery), > I finally dropped four pounds the third week and I can see I will > likely do the same this week. My fat is shifting, changing shape, > getting lose in a lot of places. > > >I feel so bad for them. I hope I lose this eating thing > > asap. I am a Hershy girl too!!!! > >I am sure you are right that it is not a piece of cake. > > But it *is* a piece of cake. Compared to *any* diet you ever went > on, this is a dream, a coast downhill. You lose the weight, you > do nothing to lose it, and it doesn't come back. How much easier > can it get??!! > > >I had a hysterectomy a little over one year ago > > and back surgery after that,, I made it thru both without > >a problem, so I am hoping for the same with my MGB. > > I've had a hysterectomy and I couldn't function for weeks afterwards. > It was very painful. Now, compared to that, let's say it's an " 8 " > on the pain scale, the MGB is an easy " 2 " the first day, " 1 " the > second day. And you don't have any loss of function or pain like > with the hysterectomy. > > Best wishes in your journey! > > Kind regards, > > ( " the Barbie Wannabe " ) > email: lindat@f... > website: http://www.fourlane.com/lindat > > Stats: > 47 years old > 5'4 " , 249 lbs., Waist 45 > Surgery date: May 18, 2000 > Wt. @ 1 week May 25, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 > Wt. @ 2 weeks, June 1, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 > Wt. @ 3 weeks, June 8, 2000: 234, Waist 42, Upper Arm 15 > Wt. @ 4 weeks, June 15, 2000: > > (And I am *not* sucking in my gut or stretching the > measuring tape -- it's loose!) > > Note: Dr. Rutledge says that the initial weight you lose after the > surgery in the first week or so is just water weight. I was > concerned when I did not lose weight the second week. He explained > this is because it takes the body longer to break down actual fat > (and we come into the surgery " well nourished), so that true weight > loss (fat loss) generally begins in the late second week to third > week. He said a better measurement of actual fat loss than using a > scale was to measure one's waist and upper arm. My abdomen was still > slightly swollen the second week so that didn't help (so my waist > was still 45) and since I had no prior measure for my upper arm, I > can't tell you what it was before surgery, either). I mention this > because it seems to be common for people to get very discouraged > when they don't lose weight the second week. All of us are just > sure we will be the only people to not lose weight with the MGB. > Rest assured it is normal if you don't lose much or any weight the > second week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 > Then, you either eat slowly and small amounts, or you barf. It > > does not take a rocket scientist to catch onto this pretty fast > > Dont get me wrong I m glad for this matter of fact, but.I Dont barf. > I never have!!!! I m too selfish! No, you are two weeks behind me. You haven't gotten there yet. In the first couple of weeks, your stomach feels bigger. You don't barf. I didn't barf, either. I was whining that my stomach seemed to be " too large, " and " held too much, " remember? Give it time. When the scar tissue starts forming around the stomach and the hole into the intestine, then you will be able to feel the limits of your stomach *MUCH* better, trust me. Then those little things you've been doing so far, like being able to chug your soup will be things of the past. > I ve said this my entire life, I m the exception to all cases! > I eat fast , gulp chew 95% of my food have drink with food. > I guesstamate and know what 3-4 ozs looks like and I stick to that > 11 days pO........ > L Um-hmmm. We'll see when you are 3-1/2 weeks post op . . . Kind regards, ( " the Barbie Wannabe " ) email: lindat@f... website: http://www.fourlane.com/lindat Stats: 47 years old 5'4 " , 249 lbs., Waist 45 Surgery date: May 18, 2000 Wt. @ 1 week May 25, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 Wt. @ 2 weeks, June 1, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 Wt. @ 3 weeks, June 8, 2000: 234, Waist 42, Upper Arm 15 (And I am *not* sucking in my gut or stretching the measuring tape -- it's loose!) Note: Dr. Rutledge says that the initial weight you lose after the surgery in the first week or so is just water weight. I was concerned when I did not lose weight the second week. He explained this is because it takes the body longer to break down actual fat (and we come into the surgery " well nourished), so that true weight loss (fat loss) generally begins in the late second week to third week. He said a better measurement of actual fat loss than using a scale was to measure one's waist and upper arm. My abdomen was still slightly swollen the second week so that didn't help (so my waist was still 45) and since I had no prior measure for my upper arm, I can't tell you what it was before surgery, either). I mention this because it seems to be common for people to get very discouraged when they don't lose weight the second week. All of us are just sure we will be the only people to not lose weight with the MGB. Rest assured it is normal if you don't lose much or any weight the second week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 > Then, you either eat slowly and small amounts, or you barf. It > > does not take a rocket scientist to catch onto this pretty fast > > Dont get me wrong I m glad for this matter of fact, but.I Dont barf. > I never have!!!! I m too selfish! No, you are two weeks behind me. You haven't gotten there yet. In the first couple of weeks, your stomach feels bigger. You don't barf. I didn't barf, either. I was whining that my stomach seemed to be " too large, " and " held too much, " remember? Give it time. When the scar tissue starts forming around the stomach and the hole into the intestine, then you will be able to feel the limits of your stomach *MUCH* better, trust me. Then those little things you've been doing so far, like being able to chug your soup will be things of the past. > I ve said this my entire life, I m the exception to all cases! > I eat fast , gulp chew 95% of my food have drink with food. > I guesstamate and know what 3-4 ozs looks like and I stick to that > 11 days pO........ > L Um-hmmm. We'll see when you are 3-1/2 weeks post op . . . Kind regards, ( " the Barbie Wannabe " ) email: lindat@f... website: http://www.fourlane.com/lindat Stats: 47 years old 5'4 " , 249 lbs., Waist 45 Surgery date: May 18, 2000 Wt. @ 1 week May 25, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 Wt. @ 2 weeks, June 1, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 Wt. @ 3 weeks, June 8, 2000: 234, Waist 42, Upper Arm 15 (And I am *not* sucking in my gut or stretching the measuring tape -- it's loose!) Note: Dr. Rutledge says that the initial weight you lose after the surgery in the first week or so is just water weight. I was concerned when I did not lose weight the second week. He explained this is because it takes the body longer to break down actual fat (and we come into the surgery " well nourished), so that true weight loss (fat loss) generally begins in the late second week to third week. He said a better measurement of actual fat loss than using a scale was to measure one's waist and upper arm. My abdomen was still slightly swollen the second week so that didn't help (so my waist was still 45) and since I had no prior measure for my upper arm, I can't tell you what it was before surgery, either). I mention this because it seems to be common for people to get very discouraged when they don't lose weight the second week. All of us are just sure we will be the only people to not lose weight with the MGB. Rest assured it is normal if you don't lose much or any weight the second week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 > Then, you either eat slowly and small amounts, or you barf. It > > does not take a rocket scientist to catch onto this pretty fast > > Dont get me wrong I m glad for this matter of fact, but.I Dont barf. > I never have!!!! I m too selfish! No, you are two weeks behind me. You haven't gotten there yet. In the first couple of weeks, your stomach feels bigger. You don't barf. I didn't barf, either. I was whining that my stomach seemed to be " too large, " and " held too much, " remember? Give it time. When the scar tissue starts forming around the stomach and the hole into the intestine, then you will be able to feel the limits of your stomach *MUCH* better, trust me. Then those little things you've been doing so far, like being able to chug your soup will be things of the past. > I ve said this my entire life, I m the exception to all cases! > I eat fast , gulp chew 95% of my food have drink with food. > I guesstamate and know what 3-4 ozs looks like and I stick to that > 11 days pO........ > L Um-hmmm. We'll see when you are 3-1/2 weeks post op . . . Kind regards, ( " the Barbie Wannabe " ) email: lindat@f... website: http://www.fourlane.com/lindat Stats: 47 years old 5'4 " , 249 lbs., Waist 45 Surgery date: May 18, 2000 Wt. @ 1 week May 25, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 Wt. @ 2 weeks, June 1, 2000: 238, Waist 45, Upper Arm 17 Wt. @ 3 weeks, June 8, 2000: 234, Waist 42, Upper Arm 15 (And I am *not* sucking in my gut or stretching the measuring tape -- it's loose!) Note: Dr. Rutledge says that the initial weight you lose after the surgery in the first week or so is just water weight. I was concerned when I did not lose weight the second week. He explained this is because it takes the body longer to break down actual fat (and we come into the surgery " well nourished), so that true weight loss (fat loss) generally begins in the late second week to third week. He said a better measurement of actual fat loss than using a scale was to measure one's waist and upper arm. My abdomen was still slightly swollen the second week so that didn't help (so my waist was still 45) and since I had no prior measure for my upper arm, I can't tell you what it was before surgery, either). I mention this because it seems to be common for people to get very discouraged when they don't lose weight the second week. All of us are just sure we will be the only people to not lose weight with the MGB. Rest assured it is normal if you don't lose much or any weight the second week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 > , You are tiny, Man Im jealous. And is it true that I will fill like I > can't eat to much in a couple of weeks...That is great news because I can > drink forever, and that scares me. I have switched to water, to help cut > down on the calories. Don't FLAME ME! I was drinking a few big smoothies a > day and soup and yogart..etc.. you will be Barbie For sure in > September....Your younger Sis Trisha It's nice to be called " tiny! " Thanks! Yes, in a week or two, you will be able to feel the limits of your stomach better than you do now. I am reasonably sure this is because of the natural healing process and the formation of scar tissue around the hole to the intestines and around the new stomach. Anyway, I was like you, saying " I can drink SOOOOO much! " and it worried me. I can still drink a lot (I think the excess just pours on into the intestine) but I definitely cannot gulp down *any* food, not even soup, now. It's ladylike and slow or I'll hurl. I didn't upchuck once during the first couple of weeks. This past week, I've managed it, oh, five or six times. Some fun! Kind regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2000 Report Share Posted June 10, 2000 > , You are tiny, Man Im jealous. And is it true that I will fill like I > can't eat to much in a couple of weeks...That is great news because I can > drink forever, and that scares me. I have switched to water, to help cut > down on the calories. Don't FLAME ME! I was drinking a few big smoothies a > day and soup and yogart..etc.. you will be Barbie For sure in > September....Your younger Sis Trisha It's nice to be called " tiny! " Thanks! Yes, in a week or two, you will be able to feel the limits of your stomach better than you do now. I am reasonably sure this is because of the natural healing process and the formation of scar tissue around the hole to the intestines and around the new stomach. Anyway, I was like you, saying " I can drink SOOOOO much! " and it worried me. I can still drink a lot (I think the excess just pours on into the intestine) but I definitely cannot gulp down *any* food, not even soup, now. It's ladylike and slow or I'll hurl. I didn't upchuck once during the first couple of weeks. This past week, I've managed it, oh, five or six times. Some fun! Kind regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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