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Hi Dale -

I am also a relatively new member to the list. I smiled in sympathy at

your words " I kicked the bed at night to get to sleep. " I have seen each

of my " sleep oddities " as I have called them described by others and find

it comforting. (Though I would wish everyoe not to have any symptoms!).

Being in the company (cyber company that it is) of others with similar

experiences is helping me alot. I have regarded my " utchy legs " as a

frustrating problem but not paid attention to what exaserbates it, what

soothes, etc. I am learning to pay attention and understand more. I look

forward to keeping a log for 2 weeks as Clifforrd suggests so I can become

aware of patterns.

Sharon in Ithaca

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Hi gang,

Eve, as they say, " there are no accidents. " I want you to know that there is

absolutely no reason to feel embarrassed about your post. I admire people who

put their thoughts and feelings to paper. Perhaps you really helped someone.

Question, I've been waking up with toe curling cramps, in my feet. And today,

I woke up with a horrible Charlie horse in my calf. This is so weird. Does

anyone get these? Has anyone heard from Joyce? Elaine, Malibu

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Elaine,

I an old acuaintance with the toe curl and the morning cramps. Makes me so

mad that I can;t even sleep in!!!! They sure hurt though!!!!

No I haven't heard anything from Joyce, hopw she is all right.

Lee

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Pamela

Does sleep deprivation make RLS worse? Sleep deprivation causes one to

be tired and more irritable than usual. In that state, the symptoms of

RLS may seem to be worse. The usual active pursuits of everyday living

are not taken up because of being tired and losing focus. In this

setting, RLS can rear its ugly head more frequently and seem to be

worse. I don't think that sleep deprivation changes the basic problem

that causes RLS, whatever that is. When you are dealing with an entity

that changes its severity from day to day and week to week, it is

difficult to evaluate aggravating factors or ameliorating factors.

To the best of my knowledge there have no placebo contolled studies of

the efects of acupuncture or herbal treatment of RLS. In an entity with

no measurable parameters of activity, anecdotal reports of therapeutic

success are of little value.

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Thank you Dr. Levin for your reply Pamela

> Pamela

>

> Does sleep deprivation make RLS worse? Sleep deprivation causes one to

> be tired and more irritable than usual. In that state, the symptoms of

> RLS may seem to be worse. The usual active pursuits of everyday living

> are not taken up because of being tired and losing focus. In this

> setting, RLS can rear its ugly head more frequently and seem to be

> worse. I don't think that sleep deprivation changes the basic problem

> that causes RLS, whatever that is. When you are dealing with an entity

> that changes its severity from day to day and week to week, it is

> difficult to evaluate aggravating factors or ameliorating factors.

>

> To the best of my knowledge there have no placebo contolled studies of

> the efects of acupuncture or herbal treatment of RLS. In an entity with

> no measurable parameters of activity, anecdotal reports of therapeutic

> success are of little value.

>

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Hi Kathy, Doreen and others, I did it again, leave out the most

important

thing.Blame it on my

short nights :). Here it comes

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Kathy Risher wrote:

> Hello there,

> Read your email about the medical site where you can find abstracts,

> articals. How do I get to this site? Thanks for letting me know.

> Kathy

>

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Next time you're up at this hour in the morning, think about what you

need. Is it criticism or support?

I'm with you I'll take support any old time

Versei 62 NC

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Next time you're up at this hour in the morning, think about what you

need. Is it criticism or support?

I'm with you I'll take support any old time

Versei 62 NC

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Next time you're up at this hour in the morning, think about what you

need. Is it criticism or support?

I'm with you I'll take support any old time

Versei 62 NC

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Patsy, Cathy C. here. I too have the bump coming out right below my little

toes. It gets worse and worse. I didn 't know any one else had it. Makes

me feel a litttle bit more " normal. "

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Patsy, Cathy C. here. I too have the bump coming out right below my little

toes. It gets worse and worse. I didn 't know any one else had it. Makes

me feel a litttle bit more " normal. "

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