Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 << Anyone else had any adverse reactions to immunizations, either as a child or adult? >> None here, nor did my mom. Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 > << Anyone else had any adverse reactions to immunizations, either as a child > or adult? >> Where my wife works, they give free flu shots in the fall of the year. A couple of years back they sent out an e-mail stating the conditions for not taking the flu shot. One of those was, if you had any neurological disease. Since that time I've not taken flu shots either. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 Gretchen We've had no adverse reactions to immunizations, but I could swear I've seen references to possible problems with the autoimmune system in relationship to CMT. I can't verify my reference till next week bit I'm fairly certain I've seen something. My katey has had problems with resistance to antibiotics - During her early elementary school years we always went " up the ladder " with antibiotics, in some cases to extremely strong ones like Refampin trying to wipe out strep throat infections. (Refampin is used for bubonic plague, yellow fever, very heavy duty infections... I think my spelling is right - it is late and I am very tired.) Ruth > >Reply-To: CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com >To: CMTUS CMTUS (AT) onelist (DOT) com> >Subject: immunizations >Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:38:03 -0800 > > > >Hi Barbara, this topic is interesting, since I have had problems with >the 'live virus' immunizations. I guess I thought that was normal. Until >some of my friends with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and even MS have found >related articles on immunizations and their illnesses (which, I think >are both immune system related). CMT is NOT immune system related, >however. > >Anyone else had any adverse reactions to immunizations, either as a >child or adult? > >Gretchen > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 It worries me when the value of infant immunizations is questioned. The diseases these immunizations prevent are horrible ones that used to kill or maim children. We rarely hear about these diseases now, thanks to widespread immunizations. The risk from NOT having your child immunized is FAR greater than any risk from the shot. Each time there is a scare and moms don't have their children protected we have more deaths, disfigurements and disabilities as a result. Measles, for example, may cause blindness or death. One century ago my grandmother wrote a description of her children's bout with whooping cough. Perhaps it will help you understand why we protect our children with shots. Notice how many WEEKS the symptoms lasted! I don't remember if we were allowed to keep this in my book or not. ==================== November 4, 1900 It occurred to me you might like a fuller description of the children’s whooping cough. began whooping five weeks ago. She and the other children had colds. We did not think of its being whooping cough for a week, when we said if the baby or Katharine or the native children begin to whoop we would know it was. A week later the baby commenced and some natives also. By that time was having terrible times. She would feel the attack coming on and run to her father or mother. There would be three short coughs, then nothing but whoops, one after another, so hard it seemed as though it would tear out the lining of her throat and do other harm. There would be from one to three dozen whoops, most often near the latter number, with only time between to struggle for breath and choke up phlegm and whatever she had eaten recently. When got through she would scream with the pain. Now she only cries. The baby’s cough is different. She coughs short hard coughs, with occasional whoop, for about five minutes, after which she would be quite tired out and minus the last meal. Each child had a slight but increasing whoop two weeks, then a feverish day, then three weeks of a very hard time. Then a slight improvement began. During part of the three weeks trouble with sore throat and hoarseness and feeling quite sick. used to feel the cough coming on and run to her father or mother several minutes before, crying, " It hurts me. " Now it comes suddenly but is not so bad. At the first cough Dwight makes a dash for the nearest basin and takes it to the one in charge of the whooping child. ====================== Scarlet Fever July 12, 1900 I don’t see why the scarlet fever didn’t go all over the town as the measles and mumps did. ... Lucy sat and pulled off skin by the hour and called to us to bring the scissors to cut it off. ====================== Thousands of people of all ages died from whooping cough, measles, influenza, mumps, bronchitis, small pox, and other illnesses that we don't have to worry much about today, thanks to immunizations. ==== In the news this morning is information about annual flu shots possibly reducing a person's chance of having a second heart attack. If I had heart problems I probably would take the flu shots. ==== I truly do believe in the value of appropriate innoculations, and we did have our sons protected with all the available shots when they were growing up. Even medical people today don't have first-hand knowledge of how destructive the various " childhood " diseases used to be. There are many reasons for seemingly more people having MS, Alzheimers, peripheral neuropathies such as CMT, and so forth, including pollution, excessive exposure to chemicals, more children surviving infancy, children who survive premature births, an ever larger population, and so forth. Simply put, weaker children who would have died in infancy in the old days, now live and may be susceptible to various disabilities. As adults we can make choices for ourselves, but I do believe we must protect our children. Kat, stepping off her soapbox (for now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 Hi Kat -- I second your concerns about not being immunized. I work in a long- term care setting and we routinely ask residents to take the flu and the pneumonia vaccines, and staff to take the flu vaccine. The first year I was an administrator I got the flu and was sick in bed for nearly two weeks. Each year since then I've taken the shot and have not had the flu for eight years. Coincidence? Maybe. By the way, the flu vaccine is not a " live " virus. It will not give you the flu; however, you may have a reaction to the shot, especially if you are allergic to eggs. Also, the CDC does not recommend that pregnant women take the vaccine. There is data that show enclosed populations of older people, i.e., nursing facilities, assisted living, retirement centers have much higher incidence of influenza when flu shots are not routinely given. Again, each person's doctor is asked for an order to give the vaccines, so if it is not appropriate for a person due to their physical condition, it is not given. I recommend that each person talk individually with his or her physician to determine whether or not the vaccines are safe. nne Re: Immunizations >From: KathleenLS@... > >It worries me when the value of infant immunizations is questioned. The >diseases these immunizations prevent are horrible ones that used to kill or >maim children. We rarely hear about these diseases now, thanks to widespread >immunizations. The risk from NOT having your child immunized is FAR greater >than any risk from the shot. Each time there is a scare and moms don't have >their children protected we have more deaths, disfigurements and disabilities >as a result. Measles, for example, may cause blindness or death. > >One century ago my grandmother wrote a description of her children's bout >with whooping cough. Perhaps it will help you understand why we protect our >children with shots. Notice how many WEEKS the symptoms lasted! > >I don't remember if we were allowed to keep this in my book or not. > >==================== >November 4, 1900 > It occurred to me you might like a fuller description of the children’s >whooping cough. began whooping five weeks ago. She and the other >children had colds. We did not think of its being whooping cough for a week, >when we said if the baby or Katharine or the native children begin to whoop >we would know it was. A week later the baby commenced and some natives also. >By that time was having terrible times. She would feel the attack >coming on and run to her father or mother. There would be three short coughs, >then nothing but whoops, one after another, so hard it seemed as though it >would tear out the lining of her throat and do other harm. There would be >from one to three dozen whoops, most often near the latter number, with only >time between to struggle for breath and choke up phlegm and whatever she had >eaten recently. When got through she would scream with the pain. Now >she only cries. > >The baby’s cough is different. She coughs short hard coughs, with occasional >whoop, for about five minutes, after which she would be quite tired out and >minus the last meal. Each child had a slight but increasing whoop two weeks, >then a feverish day, then three weeks of a very hard time. Then a slight >improvement began. During part of the three weeks trouble with sore throat >and hoarseness and feeling quite sick. > > used to feel the cough coming on and run to her father or mother >several minutes before, crying, " It hurts me. " Now it comes suddenly but is >not so bad. At the first cough Dwight makes a dash for the nearest basin and >takes it to the one in charge of the whooping child. > >====================== >Scarlet Fever >July 12, 1900 > I don’t see why the scarlet fever didn’t go all over the town as the >measles and mumps did. ... Lucy sat and pulled off skin by the hour and >called to us to bring the scissors to cut it off. > >====================== >Thousands of people of all ages died from whooping cough, measles, influenza, >mumps, bronchitis, small pox, and other illnesses that we don't have to worry >much about today, thanks to immunizations. >==== >In the news this morning is information about annual flu shots possibly >reducing a person's chance of having a second heart attack. If I had heart >problems I probably would take the flu shots. >==== >I truly do believe in the value of appropriate innoculations, and we did have >our sons protected with all the available shots when they were growing up. > >Even medical people today don't have first-hand knowledge of how destructive >the various " childhood " diseases used to be. > >There are many reasons for seemingly more people having MS, Alzheimers, >peripheral neuropathies such as CMT, and so forth, including pollution, >excessive exposure to chemicals, more children surviving infancy, children >who survive premature births, an ever larger population, and so forth. Simply >put, weaker children who would have died in infancy in the old days, now live >and may be susceptible to various disabilities. > >As adults we can make choices for ourselves, but I do believe we must protect >our children. > >Kat, stepping off her soapbox (for now) > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% >Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! >http://click.egroups.com/1/937/5/_/616793/_/952969067/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2000 Report Share Posted March 16, 2000 In a message dated 3/13/00 9:42:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, KathleenLS@... writes: << It worries me when the value of infant immunizations is questioned. The diseases these immunizations prevent are horrible ones that used to kill or maim children. We rarely hear about these diseases now, thanks to widespread immunizations. The risk from NOT having your child immunized is FAR greater than any risk from the shot. Each time there is a scare and moms don't have their children protected we have more deaths, disfigurements and disabilities as a result. Measles, for example, may cause blindness or death. >> Kat thanks so much for taking the time type out the journal entries. That is way cool... I love history. Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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