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<< I am asleep within seconds ... No kidding, its really amazing. >>

It's a male thing. My hubby is the same, as was my dad and are my 3 brothers

and all the other adult males I know. They all can drop off in the middle of

a sentence. Of course, if I'm the one talking it's rude!!!!

I could never nap until recently, because I aways woke up groggy and cranky

and it would interfere with my night sleep. Now I've learned how to sleep for

15 minutes or so, and wake up feeling fine. It may be an age thing with some

women.

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Hi, Kat ...

I take Kat naps too ... :o) I sometimes sit back in my chair at the office

and doze off for 15 minutes or so. What is really cool, is I have three

levels fused in my neck, so my neck can't bend very much. That means that I

can be sleeping and people think I am looking straight ahead. Cool, no?

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Kat,

I usually agree with your comments, but this is one male who hardly sleeps

at all. I am too anxious to sleep. My wife falls asleep much easier than I

do.

Larry

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<< I am asleep within seconds ... No kidding, its really amazing. >>

It's a male thing. My hubby is the same, as was my dad and are my 3 brothers

and all the other adult males I know. They all can drop off in the middle of

a sentence. Of course, if I'm the one talking it's rude!!!!

I could never nap until recently, because I aways woke up groggy and cranky

and it would interfere with my night sleep. Now I've learned how to sleep

for

15 minutes or so, and wake up feeling fine. It may be an age thing with some

women.

Kat

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In a message dated 7/22/00 12:03:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

oregonpapa@... writes:

> I am asleep within seconds ... No kidding, its really amazing.

>

*****************

Hi , my husband is the same way. Asleep as soon as his head hits the

pillow. That included our wedding night almost 19 years ago. Boy was he ever

in trouble whenever he did finally wake up. LOL

Is this a man thing ? Being able to go to sleep so quickly... Maybe us women

don't go to sleep as easily because of our concern for how everything is...

(safety, kids).

Just curious.

Jeanie

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<< Is this a man thing ? Being able to go to sleep so quickly... Maybe us

women don't go to sleep as easily because of our concern for how everything

is... (safety, kids). >>

There will always be people who are exceptions to anything of course, but in

general it is considered an adult male thing. (Not teens or perhaps younger,

they vary a LOT with regard to sleep.) Yes, moms are especially affected by

worry, concern, etc. The women I know (and in studies) who may be married (or

not) AND who do NOT have children are able to fall asleep fairly easily.

Stress, excitement and so forth may throw any person's sleep off.

This could even date back to primitive times when men needed to sleep in

order to go on the hunt the next day, and the women needed to be alert in

case trouble came at night.

As with CMT, we are all different.

Kat

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I had chronic insomnia for years. Tried a variety of sleep aids -

OTC, prescription, herbs, etc. either to no avail or living with

hangovers. A few months ago decided to find non-pill way to solve it,

because both the insomnia as well as the " cures " were driving me

nuts! I can't say that I have a specific routine that I do nightly,

but I know my insomnia is directly related to two things - stress and

pain. I think, really, that the stress is the worst. But I'm much

better now. I think it was just the decision to get better that

helped me, but the decision had to be accompanied by utter

powerlessness - in other words, I was just whipped! and determined to

be better.

Now, having said that - occasionally, but only occasionally, like

maybe once in a 2-week period, I take a prescription drug called

" Sonata. " It's quite expensive (I think) but it gives non-addictive

sleep for about 4 hours and no hangover. Apparently it kind of gives

a jumpstart to getting the natural sleep cycle back in order.

BUT - when I was at my worst a few months ago, not even Sonata was

helping.

Regards, everyone - it's good to be back after a weekend trip to a

wonderful lake and good camaraderie with family, too much good food,

and even some rain!

Carolyn

> Patsy, my insomnia began in college and back then my neurologist

seemed

> to think it was caused by being wired on Ritalin for 5-6 years.

(Took

> the Ritalin to help the fatigue in high school). I have had to

learn HOW

> to sleep. Nightly rituals, relaxation,set time, etc. I learned that

> sleep (adequate and restful) helps my CMT symptoms be manageable.

> Recently I have started napping in the afternoons again and this

also

> helps. NO, I am not getting too much sleep either!

>

> Gretchen

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I had chronic insomnia for years. Tried a variety of sleep aids -

OTC, prescription, herbs, etc. either to no avail or living with

hangovers. A few months ago decided to find non-pill way to solve it,

because both the insomnia as well as the " cures " were driving me

nuts! I can't say that I have a specific routine that I do nightly,

but I know my insomnia is directly related to two things - stress and

pain. I think, really, that the stress is the worst. But I'm much

better now. I think it was just the decision to get better that

helped me, but the decision had to be accompanied by utter

powerlessness - in other words, I was just whipped! and determined to

be better.

Now, having said that - occasionally, but only occasionally, like

maybe once in a 2-week period, I take a prescription drug called

" Sonata. " It's quite expensive (I think) but it gives non-addictive

sleep for about 4 hours and no hangover. Apparently it kind of gives

a jumpstart to getting the natural sleep cycle back in order.

BUT - when I was at my worst a few months ago, not even Sonata was

helping.

Regards, everyone - it's good to be back after a weekend trip to a

wonderful lake and good camaraderie with family, too much good food,

and even some rain!

Carolyn

> Patsy, my insomnia began in college and back then my neurologist

seemed

> to think it was caused by being wired on Ritalin for 5-6 years.

(Took

> the Ritalin to help the fatigue in high school). I have had to

learn HOW

> to sleep. Nightly rituals, relaxation,set time, etc. I learned that

> sleep (adequate and restful) helps my CMT symptoms be manageable.

> Recently I have started napping in the afternoons again and this

also

> helps. NO, I am not getting too much sleep either!

>

> Gretchen

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I had chronic insomnia for years. Tried a variety of sleep aids -

OTC, prescription, herbs, etc. either to no avail or living with

hangovers. A few months ago decided to find non-pill way to solve it,

because both the insomnia as well as the " cures " were driving me

nuts! I can't say that I have a specific routine that I do nightly,

but I know my insomnia is directly related to two things - stress and

pain. I think, really, that the stress is the worst. But I'm much

better now. I think it was just the decision to get better that

helped me, but the decision had to be accompanied by utter

powerlessness - in other words, I was just whipped! and determined to

be better.

Now, having said that - occasionally, but only occasionally, like

maybe once in a 2-week period, I take a prescription drug called

" Sonata. " It's quite expensive (I think) but it gives non-addictive

sleep for about 4 hours and no hangover. Apparently it kind of gives

a jumpstart to getting the natural sleep cycle back in order.

BUT - when I was at my worst a few months ago, not even Sonata was

helping.

Regards, everyone - it's good to be back after a weekend trip to a

wonderful lake and good camaraderie with family, too much good food,

and even some rain!

Carolyn

> Patsy, my insomnia began in college and back then my neurologist

seemed

> to think it was caused by being wired on Ritalin for 5-6 years.

(Took

> the Ritalin to help the fatigue in high school). I have had to

learn HOW

> to sleep. Nightly rituals, relaxation,set time, etc. I learned that

> sleep (adequate and restful) helps my CMT symptoms be manageable.

> Recently I have started napping in the afternoons again and this

also

> helps. NO, I am not getting too much sleep either!

>

> Gretchen

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In a message dated 7/22/00 5:03:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

oregonpapa@... writes:

> What is really cool, is I have three levels fused in my neck, so my neck

can't bend very much. That means that I can be sleeping and people think I

am looking straight ahead. Cool, no?

> >>

***************

Whenever my family and I travel I tend to tire more easily so I nap in the

van. I haven't had any of my neck fused, but yet I sleep with my head up. I

don't tip the seat back or lean my head against the window. I just rest my

head on the headrest and drift off. Usually after 30 minutes I'm ready for

more sight seeing and adventure. I've asked my hubby if my head ever drops

whenever I nap. He said no..... Jeanie

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In a message dated 7/24/00 5:12:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

cmontana@... writes:

> but I know my insomnia is directly related to two things - stress and

> pain. I think, really, that the stress is the worst.

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Carolyn, I agree with this 100%. Jeanie

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In a message dated 7/24/00 5:12:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

cmontana@... writes:

> but I know my insomnia is directly related to two things - stress and

> pain. I think, really, that the stress is the worst.

********************

Carolyn, I agree with this 100%. Jeanie

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Where in Mt. do you live I have a son in Missoula & one in Billings. ;)

:) :)

cmontana@... wrote:

> I had chronic insomnia for years. Tried a variety of sleep aids -

> OTC, prescription, herbs, etc. either to no avail or living with

> hangovers. A few months ago decided to find non-pill way to solve it,

> because both the insomnia as well as the " cures " were driving me

> nuts! I can't say that I have a specific routine that I do nightly,

> but I know my insomnia is directly related to two things - stress and

> pain. I think, really, that the stress is the worst. But I'm much

> better now. I think it was just the decision to get better that

> helped me, but the decision had to be accompanied by utter

> powerlessness - in other words, I was just whipped! and determined to

> be better.

>

> Now, having said that - occasionally, but only occasionally, like

> maybe once in a 2-week period, I take a prescription drug called

> " Sonata. " It's quite expensive (I think) but it gives non-addictive

> sleep for about 4 hours and no hangover. Apparently it kind of gives

> a jumpstart to getting the natural sleep cycle back in order.

>

> BUT - when I was at my worst a few months ago, not even Sonata was

> helping.

>

> Regards, everyone - it's good to be back after a weekend trip to a

> wonderful lake and good camaraderie with family, too much good food,

> and even some rain!

>

> Carolyn

>

>

> > Patsy, my insomnia began in college and back then my neurologist

> seemed

> > to think it was caused by being wired on Ritalin for 5-6 years.

> (Took

> > the Ritalin to help the fatigue in high school). I have had to

> learn HOW

> > to sleep. Nightly rituals, relaxation,set time, etc. I learned that

> > sleep (adequate and restful) helps my CMT symptoms be manageable.

> > Recently I have started napping in the afternoons again and this

> also

> > helps. NO, I am not getting too much sleep either!

> >

> > Gretchen

>

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Where in Mt. do you live I have a son in Missoula & one in Billings. ;)

:) :)

cmontana@... wrote:

> I had chronic insomnia for years. Tried a variety of sleep aids -

> OTC, prescription, herbs, etc. either to no avail or living with

> hangovers. A few months ago decided to find non-pill way to solve it,

> because both the insomnia as well as the " cures " were driving me

> nuts! I can't say that I have a specific routine that I do nightly,

> but I know my insomnia is directly related to two things - stress and

> pain. I think, really, that the stress is the worst. But I'm much

> better now. I think it was just the decision to get better that

> helped me, but the decision had to be accompanied by utter

> powerlessness - in other words, I was just whipped! and determined to

> be better.

>

> Now, having said that - occasionally, but only occasionally, like

> maybe once in a 2-week period, I take a prescription drug called

> " Sonata. " It's quite expensive (I think) but it gives non-addictive

> sleep for about 4 hours and no hangover. Apparently it kind of gives

> a jumpstart to getting the natural sleep cycle back in order.

>

> BUT - when I was at my worst a few months ago, not even Sonata was

> helping.

>

> Regards, everyone - it's good to be back after a weekend trip to a

> wonderful lake and good camaraderie with family, too much good food,

> and even some rain!

>

> Carolyn

>

>

> > Patsy, my insomnia began in college and back then my neurologist

> seemed

> > to think it was caused by being wired on Ritalin for 5-6 years.

> (Took

> > the Ritalin to help the fatigue in high school). I have had to

> learn HOW

> > to sleep. Nightly rituals, relaxation,set time, etc. I learned that

> > sleep (adequate and restful) helps my CMT symptoms be manageable.

> > Recently I have started napping in the afternoons again and this

> also

> > helps. NO, I am not getting too much sleep either!

> >

> > Gretchen

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue.

> http://click.egroups.com/1/6809/13/_/616793/_/964440703/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hi, . I'm Carolyn. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I live in

Texas. One of those native Texans. " cmontana " is something silly and

it's a long story. Have a nice evening.

> > > Patsy, my insomnia began in college and back then my neurologist

> > seemed

> > > to think it was caused by being wired on Ritalin for 5-6 years.

> > (Took

> > > the Ritalin to help the fatigue in high school). I have had to

> > learn HOW

> > > to sleep. Nightly rituals, relaxation,set time, etc. I learned

that

> > > sleep (adequate and restful) helps my CMT symptoms be

manageable.

> > > Recently I have started napping in the afternoons again and this

> > also

> > > helps. NO, I am not getting too much sleep either!

> > >

> > > Gretchen

> >

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Hi, . I'm Carolyn. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I live in

Texas. One of those native Texans. " cmontana " is something silly and

it's a long story. Have a nice evening.

> > > Patsy, my insomnia began in college and back then my neurologist

> > seemed

> > > to think it was caused by being wired on Ritalin for 5-6 years.

> > (Took

> > > the Ritalin to help the fatigue in high school). I have had to

> > learn HOW

> > > to sleep. Nightly rituals, relaxation,set time, etc. I learned

that

> > > sleep (adequate and restful) helps my CMT symptoms be

manageable.

> > > Recently I have started napping in the afternoons again and this

> > also

> > > helps. NO, I am not getting too much sleep either!

> > >

> > > Gretchen

> >

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> > Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the

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> > http://click.egroups.com/1/6809/13/_/616793/_/964440703/

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >

> >

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