Guest guest Posted January 18, 1999 Report Share Posted January 18, 1999 The article on aspartame could very well have some merit, but I would like to know if others have done research--and the findings. One thing I can say, strictly from personal experience, is that aspartame gives me headaches. For years, I would get headaches occasionally, but about four months ago, I drank a diet coke and immediately got a headache before I had finished the can. It became worse and I had a full blown migraine within 15 minutes. This *killer* headache lasted a week. I can't say that my RLS got any better when I quit the diet coke. I am just thankful that I haven't had a headache like that one again. Lindy B. (49) in Southeast Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 1999 Report Share Posted January 18, 1999 Jack and all The message about Aspartame is part of a propaganda movement against the sweetener championed by an organization called " Dorway. " There are over 75 web pages from that group damning Aspartame on the Alta Vista search engine. One could call this sort of campaign " Aspartame McCarthyism. " Make enough accusations and someone will believe some of them. How do you prove that Aspartame doesn't cause multiple sclerosis or lupus? The fact that they existed prior to the introduction of Aspartame is of value but not convincing for the anti-Aspartame zealots. The biochemical explanations of how the substance is supposed to be harmful are ridiculous on their face. It is of interest that the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation and the Lupus Foundation of America do not mention the word " Aspartame " in any of their pages on the Web. Also of interest is a disclaimer by Dorway that they cannot be held responsible for any statements about Aspartame on their multitude of Web Pages. They refer you to your physician, a good way to spread the word. While there are isolated correct statements in the various tracts, the majority is unsubstantiated opinion. Also of interest is that the Dorway group promotes a substance named " Stevia " which they say is a safe sweetener. I won't even suggest that there might be something to be gained by them if Stevia became the default sweetener in the world to replace Aspartame. When something is in widespread use, like Aspartame, it is easy to blame everything on its use. (Like drinking a cold Coke causing a migraine and questioning the Aspartame. How about questioning the drinking of an ice cold drink, with or without Aspartame, causing the migraine?) I don't like the taste of Aspartame. I still use saccharin and sugar. I'm really not afraid of getting bladder cancer since I'm not a lab rat. Sucaryl was probably the best non-sugar sweetener around when it was banned by similar accusations. It is now back but nowhere near as popular as it was. Canada never banned it and they are still there and pretty healthy. Dr. Levin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 1999 Report Share Posted January 18, 1999 Thank you for your input. I figured that this was just someone's agenda. JACK drowning in western ny At 07:35 PM 1/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >Jack and all > >The message about Aspartame is part of a propaganda movement against >the sweetener championed by an organization called " Dorway. " There are >over 75 web pages from that group damning Aspartame on the Alta Vista >search engine. One could call this sort of campaign " Aspartame >McCarthyism. " >Make enough accusations and someone will believe some of them. How do >you prove that Aspartame doesn't cause multiple sclerosis or lupus? >The fact that they existed prior to the introduction of Aspartame is >of value but not convincing for the anti-Aspartame zealots. The >biochemical explanations of how the substance is supposed to be >harmful are ridiculous on their face. It is of interest that the >Multiple Sclerosis Foundation and the Lupus Foundation of America do >not mention the word " Aspartame " in any of their pages on the Web. >Also of interest is a disclaimer by Dorway that they cannot be held >responsible for any statements about Aspartame on their multitude of >Web Pages. They refer you to your physician, a good way to spread the >word. > >While there are isolated correct statements in the various tracts, the >majority is unsubstantiated opinion. Also of interest is that the >Dorway group promotes a substance named " Stevia " which they say is a >safe sweetener. I won't even suggest that there might be something to >be gained by them if Stevia became the default sweetener in the world >to replace Aspartame. When something is in widespread use, like >Aspartame, it is easy to blame everything on its use. (Like drinking a >cold Coke causing a migraine and questioning the Aspartame. How about >questioning the drinking of an ice cold drink, with or without >Aspartame, causing the migraine?) > >I don't like the taste of Aspartame. I still use saccharin and sugar. >I'm really not afraid of getting bladder cancer since I'm not a lab >rat. Sucaryl was probably the best non-sugar sweetener around when it >was banned by similar accusations. It is now back but nowhere near as >popular as it was. Canada never banned it and they are still there and >pretty healthy. > >Dr. Levin > > Please visit our new 1999 New Year's homepage - Updated 1/9/99 " NEW!!!! " pictures,text, music, links - all for your enjoyment:-) http://www.frontiernet.net/~goviers/webpage.html (this page rated " G " , both adults and children welcome ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 1999 Report Share Posted January 19, 1999 My two cents on artificial sweeteners: I don't use them unless I'm in a social situation where they're hard to avoid, and I don't give them to my son, even though he has a weight problem. I believe that on some level you shouldn't try to fool your body. For example: you feel hungry and want something to give you energy - so you drink a diet beverage- now your mouth tells you that your getting sugar, and your whole digestive system gears up and starts work to receive the sugar- and lo and behold - no sugar is forthcoming. Later you still feel the need of some food energy, so you repeat the process! I just can't believe that over time this is good for your digestive system. The real stimulation, energy etc. that you're getting is from the caffeine in a lot of these products. That's my non scientific - " gut feeling " - pun intended. Margaret 47, Alberta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 1999 Report Share Posted January 20, 1999 Marleen, YOU LOST 75 POUNDS!!!!!!! YOU GO GIRL.....I'M SO PROUD OF YOU!! Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2000 Report Share Posted March 22, 2000 > Hi Rose, I haven't heard of aspartame causing nerve problems, but have > heard of possible cancers from it. Other than cranberry juice, I try to > make my own juices, I think this is easier done where I live due to more > fruit year 'round. And when I am not drinking juice, I drink Fiji water, > from the islands, since it is so good. Water out of the faucett here > ISN'T good! (and highly salty too) I heard years ago that aspartame (NeutaSweet), causes brain damage, and can cause depression. At that time I quit using it, and I was using a lot! Maybe the brain damage I heard about has something to do with what Rose mentioned about nerve damage? Gretchen, I guess I'm lucky here in land, our water is pretty good, but even so, I use a Pur water filter to treat all our drinking water. Just in case... Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2000 Report Share Posted March 25, 2000 Sorry about my post re: Aspartame. I was editing it and it left without permission! Here is the rest of the story. If you are still concerned after reading this, (I'm not), you can try Stevia. It is from a leaf and is widely used in Japan as well as in other countries. http://nutrition.about.com/health/nutrition/library/weekly/aa092099.htm << I came across this about aspartame. Please read. http://www.dorway.com/blayport.txt It is about aspartame in regards to neurological disorders. >> ====== This is a man who is working with Betty i to scare people who use Aspartame. They appear together to speak, for a fee, and he has written many books which have made lots of money for him, but he isn't a regular physician. Betty i (Markle) is responsible for hoax email about Aspartame. She has no medical credentials. The Multilple Sclerosis Society wrote to discredit all of this false information. http://www.msfacts.org/aspartame.htm ASPARTAME (NUTRASWEET): NO DANGER --------------- The Inappropriate and Unsubstantiated Alarm Over Aspartame Squillacote, MD Senior Medical Advisor, Multiple Sclerosis Foundation January 12, 1999 In the 1960's, before the advent of satellite communications, gold workers in the interior of South America knew the closing price of gold on the London market within an hour of the closing. The final leg of the communication was over jungle drums. Before the Internet, information moved through the Multiple Sclerosis (MS) community in a similarly informal, but high fidelity, fashion. Now, within minutes of a breaking story or rumor, the first question appears on the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation (MSF) Internet forum. Such is the case with the recent alarm over aspartame (NutraSweet and similar dietary sweetening agents). In a recent article by Markle, allegedly based on talks at the " World Environmental Conference " , wild and inaccurate information about aspartame is being spread. I have no problem with information dissemination, even when it is wrong, but Ms. Markle has crossed the line. The MSF has asked me to look into the allegations raised and report on them. 1. There is no connection between the MSF and Ms. Markle (she also uses the name i) The MSF has no knowledge of Ms. Markle's professional credentials (none are cited), and a MEDLINE search shows no contributions to the world medical literature by her. 2. The MSF has/had no connection with the " World Environmental Conference " . 3. Neither the MSF nor myself have any connection with Monsanto (producer of NutraSweet). We do not support any of the inflammatory allegations about NutraSweet made at this conference, but neither do we in any way formally endorse or condemn the product. I ran a number of MEDLINE searches on aspartame. 1. There are 377 citations in the world medical literature (all languages) from 1966-1998. 2. There is no information whatsoever about deleterious effects of aspartame on MS, systemic lupus erythematosis (SLE or lupus), or fibromyalgia. 3. There is no evidence that aspartame in any way causes, provokes, mimics or worsens MS. 4. There is no evidence of any " aspartame disease " . 5. Repeated studies in peer reviewed journals show no adverse effects of aspartame on seizures (rats, children, adults), weight gain, body temperature, cognitive/behavioral/neuropsychiatric/neurophysiologic function, brain/intestinal/liver hormones or enzymes, brain tumors, cancer, birth defects (rats and humans), Parkinson's disease, allergic responses, blood pressure, carbohydrate and lipid metabolism, etc. 6. It has not been shown to be dangerous to diabetics in any way. 7. One small study (which has not been repeated) did find some worsening of depression when depressed patients took large doses of aspartame. 8. Several small reports have appeared showing that there may be a subset of migraine patients who worsen with aspartame. Other studies show no connection in patients who have claimed to have aspartame-related headaches. ===================== TIME article re aspartame hoax This article submitted by isweet@... on 2/7/99. Email Address: PERSONAL TIME/YOUR HEALTH FEBRUARY 8, 1999 VOL. 153 NO. 5 A Web of Deceit The latest e-mail scare campaign attacks an artificial sweetener. Here's how to find the truth BY CHRISTINE GORMAN Heard the one about the common shampoo ingredient that causes cancer? Or how about the epidemic of blindness among toddlers who accidentally get waterproof sunscreen in their eyes? These absurd fictions used to be the stock-in-trade of ninth-graders bent on frightening the younger kids. But now such tall tales are appearing on the Internet, and many adults are taking them seriously. Consider the latest electronic health scare: about the artificial sweetener aspartame, which is found in everything from Equal to Diet Coke. A widely disseminated e-mail by a " Markle " links aspartame to Alzheimer's, birth defects, brain cancer, diabetes, Gulf War syndrome, lupus, multiple sclerosis and seizures. Right away, the long list warrants skepticism. Just as no single chemical cures everything, none causes everything. In this and similar cases, all the Markles of the world have to do to fabricate a health rumor is post it in some Usenet news groups and let ordinary folks, who may already distrust artificial products, forward it to all their friends and e-mail pals. I received several copies last week, as have many doctors and health organizations. When I searched Altavista www.altavista.com) for aspartame AND brain AND seizure AND sclerosis, I learned that Markle's message is almost identical to an antiaspartame screed first penned under a different name in 1995. None of the specific allegations pan out, however. Among the more outrageous claims: --Aspartame leads to " methanol toxicity. " Not even close. Trace amounts of methanol exist naturally in many fruits and vegetables, and a tiny amount is released whenever the body digests aspartame. But there's four times as much methanol in a glass of tomato juice as in a can of aspartame-sweetened soda, and our bodies have no trouble handling such a tiny amount. --Aspartame triggers headaches. Wrong again, says Shiffman, a medical psychologist at Duke University who conducted a double-blind placebo-controlled trial of 40 " aspartame sensitive " people. A little probing often revealed the real trouble. One woman, who often ate peanuts with her diet soda, was allergic to peanuts. Another drank too much caffeine. --Aspartame is responsible for the recent uptick in brain-cancer rates. So how do you explain that the trend dates back to 1973, eight years before aspartame was approved in the U.S.? Curiously, Markle didn't warn against aspartame's single known health risk. Folks with an uncommon genetic disorder called phenylketonuria shouldn't consume the sweetener because they cannot metabolize one of its ingredients. Before you decide to believe or, worse, forward an e-mail with serious health claims, do a little checking. Start on the Web with urbanlegends.miningco.com, which catalogues the more persistent rumors. Then go to reliable health sites, like mayohealth.org (for general health), www.medhelp.org (especially good for cardiology), www.oncolink.org or cancernet.nci.nih.gov (for cancer) or www.navigator.tufts.edu (for nutrition). Otherwise, you might get caught in a web of confusion. For more Web resources on Internet health rumors, see time.com/personal. 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Guest guest Posted April 5, 2000 Report Share Posted April 5, 2000 >I haven't heard of aspartame causing nerve problems, but have heard >of possible cancers from it. > Gretchen << ********** Rose, Several years ago I tried to switch over to Diet Soda's so that I owuldn't be consuming so many calories. It wasn't long and I found my memory was failing me.... When I told my doctor that my memory was failing she asked what I had been doing, eating or drinking differently. The only thing was the diet sodas. She informed me at that time that it does cause memory loss in some individuals. SOOOOO I immediately quit drinking diet sodas. Jeanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Aspartame has been linked to CNS disturbances in 'susceptable' people, but I'd worry more about the extraordinary salt content. I avoid it in all things, but sugarless gum uses it and I couldn't live without it now that my mouth hurts so much (choose your poison, just choose wisely). I drink lots of tea and infusions, never been a great fan of water, but I get my eight glasses a day. As a rule, if you can't pronounce it, don't use it without involving your doctor. 'susceptable' people are those with a health history suggesting it might be a bad idea. What one person can tolerate another can not. At Thursday 5/23/02 10:16 PM, you wrote: Someone sent me this article. Does anyone know if this is true? I know it isn't good to drink carbonated drinks over water but what do you all think about diet drinks? I have drunk diet coke for many years. I stopped drinking them for several months. I didn't see any change in me. I prefer water but I do want a diet coke a day also. I aletta mes vancouver, bc Canada web: http://aletta.0catch.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2002 Report Share Posted May 23, 2002 Aspartame has been linked to CNS disturbances in 'susceptable' people, but I'd worry more about the extraordinary salt content. I avoid it in all things, but sugarless gum uses it and I couldn't live without it now that my mouth hurts so much (choose your poison, just choose wisely). I drink lots of tea and infusions, never been a great fan of water, but I get my eight glasses a day. As a rule, if you can't pronounce it, don't use it without involving your doctor. 'susceptable' people are those with a health history suggesting it might be a bad idea. What one person can tolerate another can not. At Thursday 5/23/02 10:16 PM, you wrote: Someone sent me this article. Does anyone know if this is true? I know it isn't good to drink carbonated drinks over water but what do you all think about diet drinks? I have drunk diet coke for many years. I stopped drinking them for several months. I didn't see any change in me. I prefer water but I do want a diet coke a day also. I aletta mes vancouver, bc Canada web: http://aletta.0catch.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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