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Dear :

I don't know how patients keep missing the point, but you don't need varicose

veins to have RLS. I mentioned the presence of normal or maybe cosmetic

looking veins which contain the irritant (refluxing blood). I then gave

another example of how this irritant causes stasis dermatitis in others. I

would suggest that you read the article again. People assume you have to have

something obvious to develop RLS. If this were so then it would not be the

enigma it has been 'till now.

Sincerely,

McDonagh, M.D.

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Dear :

I don't know how patients keep missing the point, but you don't need varicose

veins to have RLS. I mentioned the presence of normal or maybe cosmetic

looking veins which contain the irritant (refluxing blood). I then gave

another example of how this irritant causes stasis dermatitis in others. I

would suggest that you read the article again. People assume you have to have

something obvious to develop RLS. If this were so then it would not be the

enigma it has been 'till now.

Sincerely,

McDonagh, M.D.

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Dear ne:

The most important aspect is the physical examination of the limb. This cannot

be delegated to a doctor not expert in this field. If that is dubious, then a

brief color ultrasound examination in the standing patient with a 10 or 12 mHz

probe by an ultrasonographer especially trained in superficial examination and

" mapping " of the venous flow mechanism would be next. However, in my

experience, I have not found this exam to be properly performed anywhere else,

even in the best known medical institutions. We developed this test and

presented it at the World Congress of Phlebology in London, UK, in 1995.

Sincerely,

McDonagh, M.D.

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Hi ,

What you mentioned about adrenalin seeming to knock out the rls really

rang a bell with me. I never have rls while under a high amount of

stress - either good or bad varieties. This seems to be the opposite of

what many have reported, but I know it's true for me. I also notice an

increase after exercise, unless it is strenuous in the extreme, then it

seems better. Pretty weird huh? Maybe there is another med available to

you in Australia rather than Senimet - the day time augmentation was

really a problem for me too. I would also be open to looking into the

vein theory, but I think I'd find a pulmonary specialist of repute in my

area, if I decided to do it. (not sure if pulmonary specialists work

with veins, but it sounds like I know what I'm talking about, right?!)

Keep writing and sharing - that alone will help, even if we're a ways

away from " the cure " .

ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ

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Hi ,

What you mentioned about adrenalin seeming to knock out the rls really

rang a bell with me. I never have rls while under a high amount of

stress - either good or bad varieties. This seems to be the opposite of

what many have reported, but I know it's true for me. I also notice an

increase after exercise, unless it is strenuous in the extreme, then it

seems better. Pretty weird huh? Maybe there is another med available to

you in Australia rather than Senimet - the day time augmentation was

really a problem for me too. I would also be open to looking into the

vein theory, but I think I'd find a pulmonary specialist of repute in my

area, if I decided to do it. (not sure if pulmonary specialists work

with veins, but it sounds like I know what I'm talking about, right?!)

Keep writing and sharing - that alone will help, even if we're a ways

away from " the cure " .

ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ

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Are there specific tests to determine if we have this reflux blood in our

veins? If so, could you tell us what they are, so we could have them

performed by a doctor on home turf? Really would appreciate hearing from

you on this.

ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ

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Are there specific tests to determine if we have this reflux blood in our

veins? If so, could you tell us what they are, so we could have them

performed by a doctor on home turf? Really would appreciate hearing from

you on this.

ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ

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In a message dated 3/31/99 3:31:24 AM !!!First Boot!!!, DMcdon6452@...

writes:

<< The most important aspect is the physical examination of the limb. This

cannot

be delegated to a doctor not expert in this field. If that is dubious >>

Uh, excuse me Dr. McDon.........point of order please!

Geez, I might be stupid but I thought RLS research showed that RLS had

something to do with the spinal cord being in a hyperexcitable state with the

PRIMARY problem being in the spinal cord or with the brain sending incorrect

signals to the spinal cord.

What the heck does that have to do with varicose veins?

I doubt that our good doc knows much of any thing about RLS.

IMHO

RAINBOWPED@...

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In a message dated 3/31/99 3:31:24 AM !!!First Boot!!!, DMcdon6452@...

writes:

<< The most important aspect is the physical examination of the limb. This

cannot

be delegated to a doctor not expert in this field. If that is dubious >>

Uh, excuse me Dr. McDon.........point of order please!

Geez, I might be stupid but I thought RLS research showed that RLS had

something to do with the spinal cord being in a hyperexcitable state with the

PRIMARY problem being in the spinal cord or with the brain sending incorrect

signals to the spinal cord.

What the heck does that have to do with varicose veins?

I doubt that our good doc knows much of any thing about RLS.

IMHO

RAINBOWPED@...

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