Guest guest Posted May 27, 1999 Report Share Posted May 27, 1999 In a message dated 5/28/99 12:22:53 AM !!!First Boot!!!, STOUTJ@... writes: << Do you all feel that Periodic Leg movement is a different syndrome or what ever than Restless Leg. I read your notes and it is hard to beleive how some of you suffer and in my I ignorance. I wonder if some of you don't have Parkinson. Now I am new to this all so take it easy on me. I wonder if I belong to this group >> Periodic Leg Movement Syndrome (or PLMS/PLMD) are stereotyped, repetitive flexion movements of the legs during sleep that last 0.5 to 5 seconds and occur semirhythmically at intervals of usually 20 to 40 seconds. PLMS are common, especially in elderly people, and are usually NOT associated with RLS! Nevertheless, about 80% of people with RLS will experience PLMS. PLMS associated with RLS may sometimes cause arousals that fragment sleep and result in excessive daytime sleepiness; occasionally, PLMS without RLS may produce similar effects. PLMS is " easy " to diagnose by doing a sleep study; whereas, RLS can NOT be diagnosed by doing a sleep study. PLMS is often " pre-diagnosed " by your bed partner because..........well, you know why. My wife diagnosed my PLMS because she got tired of buying new sheets every few months after I would shread them routinely and because she got tired of my kicking her. I would never deliberately kick my wife because I am afraid that she would kick back. It is important to note that some of the RLS treatment meds will NOT effect PLMS. The pathogenesis of RLS and PLMS is uncertain. In my opinion, I think that they are two " different " disorders that share similar results. RAINBOWPED@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 1999 Report Share Posted May 28, 1999 In a message dated 5/28/99 5:54:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!, kathleen@... writes: << I was just diagnosed with sleep apnea a couple three months ago and the sleep study showed LOTS of leg movement (none of which was I aware). >> PLMS is in and by itself " almost " diagnostic of sleep apnea but not of RLS; whereas, most (around 80%) people with RLS have some PLMS. Studies have shown a very " nice " correlation with sleep apneic " spells " and the occurence of PLMS. Seems like the apnea causes the PLMS. Sleep obstructive apnea does not cause nor contribute to RLS; however, it does seem that many people with RLS also suffer from sleep obstructive apnea thereby causing PLMS. Anyone confused yet? RAINBOWPED@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 1999 Report Share Posted May 28, 1999 Well, no I'm really confused. I suffer far more from PLMD than RLS, although there are nights when I would definently retract that statement. My PLMD does not happen during sleep, however, but, like RLS, when I'm trying to get to sleep. And I'm talking kicks a foot (in terms of 12 inches) in the air and on really bad nights my left arm is doing its thing as well. Since I haven't had normal sleep - without medication - in years, I have no idea if the PLMD continues through the night. I do have the 3 a.m. bathroom call, but am able to return to sleep. I finally (after spending two days with absolutely no sleep, couldn't sit down, had to walk and even that didn't help) got off the Trazadone... back to Klonopin. The PLMD has stopped completely (at least as far as I know), but am having to take 2 mg instead of the preferred 1 mg of Klonopin which leaves me pretty dopey until around noon. Better the last couple of days, so maybe this is just something my body needs to adjust to. Interested in learning more about PLMD.... - 56 in WestTexas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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