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In a message dated 3/6/99 12:47:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, MNewman@...

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<< Anyway, my doc started me out on one (1) Sinemet 25/100 tablet every night

about 30-60 minutes before retiring. This worked about 2 months, then my

restless leg symproms started to pick up and get worse during the daytime. >>

Again, why do docs prescribe Sinemet knowing that it is just a matter of time

before it fails you and makes things worse? Why?

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In a message dated 3/6/99 12:47:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, MNewman@...

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<< Anyway, my doc started me out on one (1) Sinemet 25/100 tablet every night

about 30-60 minutes before retiring. This worked about 2 months, then my

restless leg symproms started to pick up and get worse during the daytime. >>

Again, why do docs prescribe Sinemet knowing that it is just a matter of time

before it fails you and makes things worse? Why?

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In a message dated 3/6/99 12:47:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, MNewman@...

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<< Anyway, my doc started me out on one (1) Sinemet 25/100 tablet every night

about 30-60 minutes before retiring. This worked about 2 months, then my

restless leg symproms started to pick up and get worse during the daytime. >>

Again, why do docs prescribe Sinemet knowing that it is just a matter of time

before it fails you and makes things worse? Why?

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In a message dated 3/6/99 12:47:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, MNewman@...

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<< I was going crazy by January and exhausted from all the movement, and those

unbearable squirmy sensations were murder and driving me crazy. I then read

something from the Internet about reaching a point of Augmentation with

Sinemet where it completely loses its effectiveness. I mentioned this to my

prescribing doctor to see if there was something else. He then called in a

prescription for Mirapex, >>

So, uh, why did not the doc prescribe something like Mirapex to begin with?

Why must we suffer unnecessarily? Why do have to " pay dues " in order to the

" correct " treatment?

Is there some sort of " secret " clinical trial or study going on and all the

docs are willing participants or what?

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In a message dated 3/6/99 12:47:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, MNewman@...

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<< I was going crazy by January and exhausted from all the movement, and those

unbearable squirmy sensations were murder and driving me crazy. I then read

something from the Internet about reaching a point of Augmentation with

Sinemet where it completely loses its effectiveness. I mentioned this to my

prescribing doctor to see if there was something else. He then called in a

prescription for Mirapex, >>

So, uh, why did not the doc prescribe something like Mirapex to begin with?

Why must we suffer unnecessarily? Why do have to " pay dues " in order to the

" correct " treatment?

Is there some sort of " secret " clinical trial or study going on and all the

docs are willing participants or what?

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In a message dated 3/6/99 12:47:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, MNewman@...

writes:

<< I was going crazy by January and exhausted from all the movement, and those

unbearable squirmy sensations were murder and driving me crazy. I then read

something from the Internet about reaching a point of Augmentation with

Sinemet where it completely loses its effectiveness. I mentioned this to my

prescribing doctor to see if there was something else. He then called in a

prescription for Mirapex, >>

So, uh, why did not the doc prescribe something like Mirapex to begin with?

Why must we suffer unnecessarily? Why do have to " pay dues " in order to the

" correct " treatment?

Is there some sort of " secret " clinical trial or study going on and all the

docs are willing participants or what?

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I started on Sinemet August of 1988. I am taking 25/100 about 2 hours before

bedtime. So far, it is still working. The problem I had was I could not sleep

but not because of RLS. So the doctor put me on 2mg Valium and I take one

Tylenol PM. So far this is working fine. I do not have RLS during the day.

It came on about 8 or 9 o'clock at night. Hope this helps some of you. I do

not know how long this will last but so far, so good. By the way, the doctor

also insisted I try Ambien for sleep and I did. When I found out the cost, I

could not sleep even if it did help. LOL

Lila, 66, Knoxville

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Hal,

You've got it right. (I had to research the difference in these two

terms and explain them to my (ex)neurologist when it happened to me

with Sinemet.)

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---Hal White halwhite@...> wrote:

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>

>

> Jill:

> I also read the definition of augmentation and rebound in Sleep

> Thief a while back; and I think I even reproduced the same quote that

> you referred to when I responded to someone who asked the distinction

> between the two. However, I think there's a simpler way to put it.

> From what I've read--and to phrase it as simply as

> possible--rebound means that RLS symptoms start, or begin, *earlier*

than

> they used to (before the Sinemet was started); while augmentation

means

> that the symptoms are also *worse* than before the Sinemet was

started.

> A double whammy, if there ever was one. To the group: If I've got

this

> wrong, please let me know.

> Also, is there anyone who takes/took Sinemet just for PLMS? If

> so, would you please let me know whether or not it helped?

> Thanks,

> Hal

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Hey Marcus,

My Dr. thinks that my numbness and " hot Feet " are from peripheral neuropathy.

I don't really know what that means, you could probably look it up. I'm

glad the Sinimet is working for you. It caused too many symptoms during the

day for me. I take Mirapex, but last night I had a terrible time with my

legs. It felt like I ran the marathon today.

I'm going for a biopsy on my breast on Friday. I'm praying that everything is

gonna be OK.

Hey Steph, the only connection to the bank robbery that I can see, is the

fact that you just moved there! Share the Loot with us!

Hope all is well. Happy mother's day. God Bless, Elaine, Malibu

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Been on 10/100 Sinemet at night for RLS for years, no problems and it works

for nighttime RLS. Now if I could only find something for the daytime

swinging leg and tapping foot! Some of us can do well on Sinemet... just my

two cents worth.

Nat Dean, Santa Fe, NM

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>To: donaldw@...

>Subject: Re: self diagnosing

>Date: Thu, May 27, 1999, 12:30 PM

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> Sue,

>

> That's correct, you went to a doctor, with your suspisions that you had

> RLS. le

>

>>

>>To: " rlssupport (AT) onelist (DOT) comrlssupport (AT) onelist (DOT) com>

>>Subject: Re: self diagnosing

>>Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:25:55 -0700

>>

>>

>>

>>Dear Group,

>>

>>I, too, figured out what I had before I went to a doctor. I presented her

>>with the info I had gathered and she began searching for a treatment. We

>>went through several things with no success until I tried Sinemet, which,

>>as most of us know by now, was only a temporary solution. After upping the

>>dose on that several times, and feeling like I would lose my mind trying to

>>keep ahead of the symptoms, I switched doctors. About the same time, I

>>learned about Mirapex, so talked to my new doc about it. He was very

>>interested to see if it would help me as he has several RLS patients and

>>had not been too successful with treatments. I got him on the mailing list

>>for RLS info and started taking Mirapex. So far it has worked for me-it's

>>been about 8 months, however, I noticed a slight drop in it's effectiveness

>>this weekend while under a lot of stress... so, we'll see.

>>

>>Anyway, just wanted to add my comments about self-diagnosis. I knew I had

>>RLS as soon as I began to read about it-before I ever went to a doctor.

>>

>>Sue, 50, Arizona

>>

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Chuck,

I had the product insert you can obtain at your pharmacy (would be inside one

the bottle; they toss the any way so ask for one!) sitting on my desk for

Sinemet. Plain as day, it list " vomiting " as a possible side effect of

Sinemet.

" Digestive: garonintestinal bleeding, development of dudenal ulcer, anorexia,

vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, dyspepsia, dry munt, taste alterations. "

Jodi had her Web Site has extensive information on the various drugs used to

treat RLS. I would go check what she has out:

http://www.mlists.net/judson/rls.html

A hint; if her RLS comes back with a venegance, you might ask the doctors

about putting her on Mirapex. My mother has a tender tummy and has had no

problems with it in this regard.

I am sorry to say even the best of Neurologists, Psyciatrists and/or Sleep

Disorder Specialist often know enough to shake in a thimble about RLS and

drugs perhaps prescribed for it. The Director of the RLS Foundation told me

of 3,000 doctors attending the Sleep Convention in Orlando here shortly, only

100 are signed up for the RLS seminar, the only one on it. On the bright

side, 100 is better then none!

Well, back to the wild, wooly west; we are the pioneers to stick around and

thanks so much for trying to help your wife!

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Chuck,

I had the product insert you can obtain at your pharmacy (would be inside one

the bottle; they toss the any way so ask for one!) sitting on my desk for

Sinemet. Plain as day, it list " vomiting " as a possible side effect of

Sinemet.

" Digestive: garonintestinal bleeding, development of dudenal ulcer, anorexia,

vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, dyspepsia, dry munt, taste alterations. "

Jodi had her Web Site has extensive information on the various drugs used to

treat RLS. I would go check what she has out:

http://www.mlists.net/judson/rls.html

A hint; if her RLS comes back with a venegance, you might ask the doctors

about putting her on Mirapex. My mother has a tender tummy and has had no

problems with it in this regard.

I am sorry to say even the best of Neurologists, Psyciatrists and/or Sleep

Disorder Specialist often know enough to shake in a thimble about RLS and

drugs perhaps prescribed for it. The Director of the RLS Foundation told me

of 3,000 doctors attending the Sleep Convention in Orlando here shortly, only

100 are signed up for the RLS seminar, the only one on it. On the bright

side, 100 is better then none!

Well, back to the wild, wooly west; we are the pioneers to stick around and

thanks so much for trying to help your wife!

Barbara

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I have been on 10/100 Sinemet for years and take it every night, no

problems in all of those years. Get some naseua from chronic pain I also

have, and that Phenergan 25 mg when that comes up. That is infrequent, and

can happen anytime day or night when pain is really bad. Good Luck.

Nat Dean, Santa Fe, NM

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>To: rlssupport (AT) onelist (DOT) com

>Subject: Sinemet

>Date: Tue, Jun 1, 1999, 12:55 AM

>

>

>

> Does anyone have any experience with the side effects of Sinemet. My

> wife has been taking this med for a year in combination with neurontin

> and its been doing its job.

>

> She is currently in her 8th stay in a hospital (1 of 4) being treated

> for vomiting. She started April 14 after taking the above night meds.

> No other differences before that. She has had many, many gastro

> intestinal tests run from her mouth to her rectum. They have all been

> negative. No blockages, no ulcers, no tumors. Motility tests show the

> digestive system working normal. They now have moved to this being a

> mental event. And its possible without going into details that this is

> the triggering mechanism that is causing the vomiting. But in all this

> time they have not taken her off the sinemet until I prodded them at

> Mayo Hospital in Phoenix to do so, just on the pretense that it could be

> a contributor since one of the side effects of sinemet is vomiting.

> This was discontinued May 28. Vomiting seems to have stopped (although

> she is also getting psychiatric help at this same time). They are

> continuing the neurontin and have increase the dose to offset the

> discontinuance of sinemet.

>

> Help from anyone with knowledge of sinemet, its side effects, long term,

> particularly vomiting is urgently needed.

> Thank you, Chuck (list member is my wife Donna)

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