(no subject)

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I think I knew the answers I would get but I always hope for something

different. < >.

I will rely on the power of prayer...again.

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I think I knew the answers I would get but I always hope for something

different. < >.

I will rely on the power of prayer...again.

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't say a thing unless asked at this point. Can you imagine how she

feels after enduring a month in the hospital (not your fault) and has lost

less than 50 pounds? I have a similar friend who I kind of shepherded

through the process. She had a horrible recovery. She's lost plenty of

weight, perhaps 100 out of 200 excess, but it's obvious she has no intention

of changing her eating habits too much. You know, Starbucks and a scone

with icing for breakfast.

We're all just different and this was just *my* $.02

in Austin

RNY April 1998

(no subject)

> She has lost <50#. This seems low to me. I need info on what if anything

I

> can say to help her. If I lose a friend in the process that is ok . As

long

> as she gets healthy and lives to hate me longer. ;=)

>

>

> Jo Rahn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/2002 9:33:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

MariJo1139@... writes:

<< She weighed 425. She had a distal RnY in July of this year. I

met her for a cup of coffee and she ate a super size quarter pound

cheeseburger meal with a salad. >>

I'm a proximal RNY, 15 months out from surgery, have lost 85 pounds. I can

eat a small/medium type salad, and could eat about 20% (less than a quarter)

of a quarter pound hamburger. It was almost a full year before I could eat

any hamburger period and keep it down longer than 2 minutes.

B

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/02 5:12:29 PM Central Standard Time,

vickiang@... writes:

> The problem starts

> when you walk in the door,

******************************************************************

Unfortunately we work for the company! Well,I did. She is a long term

restaurant manager making very good money. She won't quit. I suggested that.

:=)

Jo

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/02 5:12:29 PM Central Standard Time,

vickiang@... writes:

> The problem starts

> when you walk in the door,

******************************************************************

Unfortunately we work for the company! Well,I did. She is a long term

restaurant manager making very good money. She won't quit. I suggested that.

:=)

Jo

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/02 5:12:29 PM Central Standard Time,

vickiang@... writes:

> The problem starts

> when you walk in the door,

******************************************************************

Unfortunately we work for the company! Well,I did. She is a long term

restaurant manager making very good money. She won't quit. I suggested that.

:=)

Jo

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/02 7:32:57 PM Central Standard Time,

frwhlngrl@... writes:

> Can any of you actually eat an entire hamburger?

******************************************************************************

***

After reading the responses I am wondering if I was let go @ Mickey D's

because I wouldn't eat the hamburgers anymore? m-m-m-m-m-m-m ;=)

I can eat the cheap meat... but not the LEAN stuff. If it is chili or a good

soup it will stay down. But then I usually do ground turkey. ( don't tell

hubby..he hates the stuff! hahahaha

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/02 7:32:57 PM Central Standard Time,

frwhlngrl@... writes:

> Can any of you actually eat an entire hamburger?

******************************************************************************

***

After reading the responses I am wondering if I was let go @ Mickey D's

because I wouldn't eat the hamburgers anymore? m-m-m-m-m-m-m ;=)

I can eat the cheap meat... but not the LEAN stuff. If it is chili or a good

soup it will stay down. But then I usually do ground turkey. ( don't tell

hubby..he hates the stuff! hahahaha

Jo Rahn

24W > 14P

sx 8/27/01

Yukon,OK

[Guest guest]

Damn, a whole 1/4 pounder...... Man... I thought it was bad that I could eat

1/2 of a cheeseburger, no bread, from the happy meal at 14 months out......

Sounds like there are some plumbing problems with this chic.

Randy

rlogle@...

www.geocities.com/rogle32/

AIM: rlogleeln

Open RNY: Sept. 26, 2001: 202 lbs gone.

Daddy to Doogun, Jasper, and Zoe.

Lord, Please help me to become the Person

my Dog's think I am.

Re: (no subject)

> In a message dated 11/15/2002 9:33:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> MariJo1139@... writes:

>

> << She weighed 425. She had a distal RnY in July of this year. I

> met her for a cup of coffee and she ate a super size quarter pound

> cheeseburger meal with a salad. >>

> I'm a proximal RNY, 15 months out from surgery, have lost 85 pounds. I

can

> eat a small/medium type salad, and could eat about 20% (less than a

quarter)

> of a quarter pound hamburger. It was almost a full year before I could

eat

> any hamburger period and keep it down longer than 2 minutes.

> B

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Damn, a whole 1/4 pounder...... Man... I thought it was bad that I could eat

1/2 of a cheeseburger, no bread, from the happy meal at 14 months out......

Sounds like there are some plumbing problems with this chic.

Randy

rlogle@...

www.geocities.com/rogle32/

AIM: rlogleeln

Open RNY: Sept. 26, 2001: 202 lbs gone.

Daddy to Doogun, Jasper, and Zoe.

Lord, Please help me to become the Person

my Dog's think I am.

Re: (no subject)

> In a message dated 11/15/2002 9:33:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> MariJo1139@... writes:

>

> << She weighed 425. She had a distal RnY in July of this year. I

> met her for a cup of coffee and she ate a super size quarter pound

> cheeseburger meal with a salad. >>

> I'm a proximal RNY, 15 months out from surgery, have lost 85 pounds. I

can

> eat a small/medium type salad, and could eat about 20% (less than a

quarter)

> of a quarter pound hamburger. It was almost a full year before I could

eat

> any hamburger period and keep it down longer than 2 minutes.

> B

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can any of you actually eat an entire hamburger? To this day, I cannot do

ground beef very well. It's just too heavy in the pouch!

Dawn

RYN 5-17-93

********************************************

I eat Boca burgers, and I can only eat 1/2 on 1 slice of bread and a couple

of slices of tomato. I'm full big time on that. I'm 2 1/2 years out.

Regards~

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

www.jacquemiller.gasupusa.com

Discount Gasoline! Save 21%

with a Costco-like membership!

Ask me how!

[Guest guest]

Can any of you actually eat an entire hamburger? To this day, I cannot do

ground beef very well. It's just too heavy in the pouch!

Dawn

RYN 5-17-93

********************************************

I eat Boca burgers, and I can only eat 1/2 on 1 slice of bread and a couple

of slices of tomato. I'm full big time on that. I'm 2 1/2 years out.

Regards~

´¨¨)) -:¦:-

¸.·´ .·´¨¨))

((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Jacque

-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

www.jacquemiller.gasupusa.com

Discount Gasoline! Save 21%

with a Costco-like membership!

Ask me how!

[Guest guest]

I can eat that much easy!! But the point is what the ____ business

do I have going to a Mc's?? Get serious. The problem starts

when you walk in the door, not when you smack your lips after downing

a quarter pounder with cheese, reach for a french fry and wash it

down with a DIET coke! This is something we can ALL agree on! LOL.

Vicki A.

> Hi Jo Rahn:

> I had the RNY procedure done 15 months ago and I can barely eat a

> small cheeseburger (when I do eat one). I don't see how on earth

your

> friend can eat that large of a meal in one sitting without getting

sick

> or being in a h**l of a lot of pain. If I eat one more bite than my

> pouch can handle, I know it for about an hour afterwards and it

isn't

> fun.

>

> The other big problem I see with her eating habits is skipping

meals.

> I eat 4-5 small meals a day - sometimes 6. A meal for me would be a

> protein shake or part of a protein bar; 3 ounces of grilled chicken

with

> a couple bites of a veggie; half of a sandwich; a yougurt; a slice

of

> cheese with a slice of ham or turkey; a couple of small meat

sticks; a

> glass of milk; or something in that these. The point is that I

can't

> eat a large amount at one time, so I eat smaller meals several

times per

> day. Plus by eating this way, I keep my blood sugar levels at an

even

> level so that I don't get overly hungry or feel lightheaded or just

> plain crappy. I also try very hard not to drink anything with my

meals,

> although it's something that I still have to work on. If you drink

with

> your meals, it just pushes the food out of the pouch faster so that

you

> can eat more at a sitting.

>

> I would wonder if she might possibly have a staple line

disruption or

> if this is the way she has eaten from day one of her surgery. I

started

> at 410 lbs. the day of my surgery and lost my first 100 lbs. in the

> first 6 months. Currently I have lost a total of 170 lbs. and have

> slowed my weight loss down by quite a bit, but I am still losing.

I'm

> afraid if she continues eating the way she is right now, she is not

only

> going to not lose as much as she wants to, but will have a big

regain at

> some time. Now people do lose at different rates, but that's not

from

> eating large meals at one sitting. That's what got most of us to

the

> high weights that we were.

>

> Hopefully she will open her eyes soon and see that by eating the

way

> she is, she is setting yourself up for disappointment. Any weight

loss

> surgery is just a tool - it's not a magic pill. We still have to

do our

> part to lose the weight AND keep it off. Yes, it's hard, but so is

> living as an obese person. I would much rather give up some of my

> favorite foods than to live in a 410 lb. body for the rest of my

life.

> And so would my family. But it has to be her choice and no one

else's.

> Hopefully she will make the right choice and soon.

>

> Hugs,

> Jerri in MI

> open RNY - August 15, 2001

> Dr. Neil mor/BTC, Yps.

> 410/240/170?

[Guest guest]

> I had the RNY procedure done 15 months ago and I can barely eat a

> small cheeseburger (when I do eat one). I don't see how on earth your

> friend can eat that large of a meal in one sitting without getting sick

> or being in a h**l of a lot of pain. If I eat one more bite than my

> pouch can handle, I know it for about an hour afterwards and it isn't

> fun.

*****************************************************************

Can any of you actually eat an entire hamburger? To this day, I cannot do

ground beef very well. It's just too heavy in the pouch!

Dawn

RYN 5-17-93

[Guest guest]

Lyn G: Thanks so much for the warning. These types of posts take courage.

It also takes even more courage to stop the insanity. Congratulations. Fay

Bayuk

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/2002 11:24:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

butterflye@... writes:

<< Over the spring I got to eating 2 Mc's

Cheeseburgers (they were 2 for $1 ya know), a small fries and a soda. >>

I know that nobody believes me, but I swear that even pre op I never in my

life ate 2 hamburgers at a time. I really don't know how in the hell I got

to 300 pounds or why I'm still at 220.

B

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/2002 11:24:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

butterflye@... writes:

<< Over the spring I got to eating 2 Mc's

Cheeseburgers (they were 2 for $1 ya know), a small fries and a soda. >>

I know that nobody believes me, but I swear that even pre op I never in my

life ate 2 hamburgers at a time. I really don't know how in the hell I got

to 300 pounds or why I'm still at 220.

B

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/2002 11:24:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

butterflye@... writes:

<< Over the spring I got to eating 2 Mc's

Cheeseburgers (they were 2 for $1 ya know), a small fries and a soda. >>

I know that nobody believes me, but I swear that even pre op I never in my

life ate 2 hamburgers at a time. I really don't know how in the hell I got

to 300 pounds or why I'm still at 220.

B

[Guest guest]

: many of us are like you. The poster who said she now eats only 1 or

two slices and used to eat a whole pie sounds more like my husband. Preop I

could only eat 1 or two slices of pizza. My meals were very normal and I do

not have a sweet tooth. But and that is a big but (pun intended) I would

graze. Pretzels, chips etc. A little at a time, but all of the time. I

think I was able to consume a full bag of pretzels a day. We are truly all

different. Fay Bayuk

[Guest guest]

: many of us are like you. The poster who said she now eats only 1 or

two slices and used to eat a whole pie sounds more like my husband. Preop I

could only eat 1 or two slices of pizza. My meals were very normal and I do

not have a sweet tooth. But and that is a big but (pun intended) I would

graze. Pretzels, chips etc. A little at a time, but all of the time. I

think I was able to consume a full bag of pretzels a day. We are truly all

different. Fay Bayuk

[Guest guest]

: many of us are like you. The poster who said she now eats only 1 or

two slices and used to eat a whole pie sounds more like my husband. Preop I

could only eat 1 or two slices of pizza. My meals were very normal and I do

not have a sweet tooth. But and that is a big but (pun intended) I would

graze. Pretzels, chips etc. A little at a time, but all of the time. I

think I was able to consume a full bag of pretzels a day. We are truly all

different. Fay Bayuk

[Guest guest]

>>>Can any of you actually eat an entire hamburger? To this day, I cannot do

ground beef very well. It's just too heavy in the pouch!

Yep, with no problem. Over the spring I got to eating 2 Mc's

Cheeseburgers (they were 2 for $1 ya know), a small fries and a soda. Of

course the soda was washing out the pouch, but I could finish it all in 30

minutes or so. Also tried a Whopper once, and again, could finish it, with

drinking, in about half an hour, maybe less. A couple of times I finished

off a foot-long Subway sandwich, took maybe an hour but I did. No problem to

finish off a couple slices of pizza, more if the crust was thin. I'm not

proud, just saying I could.

I've stopped, in case anyone was wondering. Lowest weight loss was 200#. The

day early this summer when I got on the scale and it said 250, I panicked,

and have been eating WAY more sensibly ever since. Also did the " 3-day

jumpstart " with only protein shakes, water and maybe half a cup of soft food

per day, and that seemed to help a great deal in re-training my pouch to be

happy with smaller amounts. It also brought back dumping, which was pretty

much gone. I was snacking on caramels -- only a couple at a time, spaced out

over the day, I could easily eat a pound a day and sometimes did, without

dumping. A couple of days ago, I had 3 of the Tootsie Roll midgies (a

serving, according to the bag, is 12), and I dumped big-time, so it's good

to know that's back, and if I don't goof around with it again, hopefully it

will stay.

It's an amazing thing, that we do this to ourselves, after all we've been

through, but I had gone back to eating almost like old times. I am SO glad I

stopped that insanity!

~~ Lyn G

[Guest guest]

On the other hand, I didn't snack at all, still don't. Do 4 feedings. But

that is an effort. I'd prefer one meal. One meal equal to those 4 feedings.

I COULD eat many burgers. But then I'd swing the other way and live on

salads for weeks on end. I gained no matter what, burgers or lettuce. There

was no winning with food, only gaining.

In fact, maybe post-op life is a bit easier for the volume eater. I had to

learn TO eat more often, whereas snackers have to learn to stop eating. I

dunno.

But I could definitely eat in volume. Mega volume. For me, the only way to

lose was to go cold turkey. No solid food for weeks on end.

What a miserable, miserable life. Skipping milk & sugar is the easiest

thing I EVER did.

m

Re: Re: (no subject)

> : many of us are like you. The poster who said she now eats only 1

or

> two slices and used to eat a whole pie sounds more like my husband.

Preop I

> could only eat 1 or two slices of pizza. My meals were very normal and I

do

> not have a sweet tooth. But and that is a big but (pun intended) I would

> graze. Pretzels, chips etc. A little at a time, but all of the time. I

> think I was able to consume a full bag of pretzels a day. We are truly all

> different. Fay Bayuk

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On the other hand, I didn't snack at all, still don't. Do 4 feedings. But

that is an effort. I'd prefer one meal. One meal equal to those 4 feedings.

I COULD eat many burgers. But then I'd swing the other way and live on

salads for weeks on end. I gained no matter what, burgers or lettuce. There

was no winning with food, only gaining.

In fact, maybe post-op life is a bit easier for the volume eater. I had to

learn TO eat more often, whereas snackers have to learn to stop eating. I

dunno.

But I could definitely eat in volume. Mega volume. For me, the only way to

lose was to go cold turkey. No solid food for weeks on end.

What a miserable, miserable life. Skipping milk & sugar is the easiest

thing I EVER did.

m

Re: Re: (no subject)

> : many of us are like you. The poster who said she now eats only 1

or

> two slices and used to eat a whole pie sounds more like my husband.

Preop I

> could only eat 1 or two slices of pizza. My meals were very normal and I

do

> not have a sweet tooth. But and that is a big but (pun intended) I would

> graze. Pretzels, chips etc. A little at a time, but all of the time. I

> think I was able to consume a full bag of pretzels a day. We are truly all

> different. Fay Bayuk

>

>

>