Re: subtle effects in alternative medicin

[Guest guest]

Hi Everybody,

IMO,the affirmation coming from alternative MDs that the meds you are taken

counteract the beneficial effect of their method is iniquitous. Pay

attention, it is possible that next time when you'll go free of meds and the

treatment is still not functionning ==> It will be your fault, since your

" psyschism " refuses to be heeled!!!

More seriously, it is obvious that the patient will not be able to perceive

a beneficial effect if he/she is under massive meds doses. On the other

hand, he/she should be able the recognize any beneficial effect when under

minimal doses, just necessary to control (more or less) the symptoms. And

the ingestion of only minimal doses is a good trend for chronic afflictions.

In such occasion, my wife says always: Is it not amazing that as a matter of

fact, I perceive always the detrimental effects (usually headaches,

nausea,..) of such therapies but would not be able to perceive the

beneficial effects ?

BTW, quinine is sometimes used as muscle relaxant against leg cramps but has

no beneficial effect for RLS sensu stricto as defined in http://www.rls.org

the addresses mentioned below give information for quinine/leg cramps

http://www.firsthomehealth.com/MI15.htm

http://www.infopoems.com/POEMs/JC079502.htm

healthier sleep wish you

Bernard, 48, Switzerland

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>At 12,01 10.05.99 -0600, you wrote:

>..... she treats me with

>needles for RLS. The needle RLS treatments are very subtle in their effect,

>but I am being treated for a lot of things and she says the meds I take

>counteract a lot of the acupunture to some degree.

>

>Nat Dean, Santa Fe, NM

>Any comments on use of quinine? Nat Dean, Santa Fe,NM

[Guest guest]

Hi Everybody,

IMO,the affirmation coming from alternative MDs that the meds you are taken

counteract the beneficial effect of their method is iniquitous. Pay

attention, it is possible that next time when you'll go free of meds and the

treatment is still not functionning ==> It will be your fault, since your

" psyschism " refuses to be heeled!!!

More seriously, it is obvious that the patient will not be able to perceive

a beneficial effect if he/she is under massive meds doses. On the other

hand, he/she should be able the recognize any beneficial effect when under

minimal doses, just necessary to control (more or less) the symptoms. And

the ingestion of only minimal doses is a good trend for chronic afflictions.

In such occasion, my wife says always: Is it not amazing that as a matter of

fact, I perceive always the detrimental effects (usually headaches,

nausea,..) of such therapies but would not be able to perceive the

beneficial effects ?

BTW, quinine is sometimes used as muscle relaxant against leg cramps but has

no beneficial effect for RLS sensu stricto as defined in http://www.rls.org

the addresses mentioned below give information for quinine/leg cramps

http://www.firsthomehealth.com/MI15.htm

http://www.infopoems.com/POEMs/JC079502.htm

healthier sleep wish you

Bernard, 48, Switzerland

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>At 12,01 10.05.99 -0600, you wrote:

>..... she treats me with

>needles for RLS. The needle RLS treatments are very subtle in their effect,

>but I am being treated for a lot of things and she says the meds I take

>counteract a lot of the acupunture to some degree.

>

>Nat Dean, Santa Fe, NM

>Any comments on use of quinine? Nat Dean, Santa Fe,NM

[Guest guest]

Thanks you for the information on quinine. Obviously I must take the sheets

I printed out from your contacts to my doctor and get something else. I am

treated for my nighttime RLS, it is the residual daytime RLS (swinging leg,

tapping foot, etc.) symptoms that I need ehlp with. For night time I use

Vicoden ES, Sinemet, and Klonopin (2mg AM and PM).

Nat Dean, Santa Fe, NM

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>To: rlssupport (AT) onelist (DOT) com

>Subject: Re: subtle effects in alternative medicin

>Date: Wed, May 12, 1999, 4:12 AM

>

> Hi Everybody,

>

> IMO,the affirmation coming from alternative MDs that the meds you are taken

> counteract the beneficial effect of their method is iniquitous. Pay

> attention, it is possible that next time when you'll go free of meds and the

> treatment is still not functionning ==> It will be your fault, since your

> " psyschism " refuses to be heeled!!!

>

> More seriously, it is obvious that the patient will not be able to perceive

> a beneficial effect if he/she is under massive meds doses. On the other

> hand, he/she should be able the recognize any beneficial effect when under

> minimal doses, just necessary to control (more or less) the symptoms. And

> the ingestion of only minimal doses is a good trend for chronic afflictions.

>

> In such occasion, my wife says always: Is it not amazing that as a matter of

> fact, I perceive always the detrimental effects (usually headaches,

> nausea,..) of such therapies but would not be able to perceive the

> beneficial effects ?

>

>

> BTW, quinine is sometimes used as muscle relaxant against leg cramps but has

> no beneficial effect for RLS sensu stricto as defined in http://www.rls.org

> the addresses mentioned below give information for quinine/leg cramps

> http://www.firsthomehealth.com/MI15.htm

> http://www.infopoems.com/POEMs/JC079502.htm

>

>

>

> healthier sleep wish you

> Bernard, 48, Switzerland

> ----------------------------------

>

>

>>At 12,01 10.05.99 -0600, you wrote:

>>..... she treats me with

>>needles for RLS. The needle RLS treatments are very subtle in their effect,

>>but I am being treated for a lot of things and she says the meds I take

>>counteract a lot of the acupunture to some degree.

>>

>>Nat Dean, Santa Fe, NM

>

>

>>Any comments on use of quinine? Nat Dean, Santa Fe,NM

>

>