Guest guest Posted April 9, 1999 Report Share Posted April 9, 1999 Hi, I am so enthusiastic on everyone being checked and if it is low, bringing your Ferritin up to at least 50, as my mother's was 8 and when it only came up to 13, her severe RLS symptoms improved by 50%. Because of my enthusiasm for this, I have been nicknamed the Ferritin Lady for the newbies. Below is my file on this. I will send file #2 of medical journal articles documenting the brain needs an abundance of iron to take up dopamine or what you do have. Barbara TESTIMONIALS Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 10:12 PM Subject: Re: RLS and Ferritin Level I've had RLS for several years. When I went to my doctor 3-4 years ago he had me take a sleep test where they diagnosed RLS. He took a blood sample for ferritin levels and pronounced them OK at 30mg. 4-5 weeks ago I read on this board about ferritin and how it should be greater than 50 for RLS victims. I went to my new Doc and took another test with similar results as the first test, i.e., 30 mg. The new Doc insisted that was just fine and I should do nothing about it, notwithstanding what I read on the net and what I got from Dr. Levin. Dr. Levin continued to suggest that I take iron pills to get the level closer to 50. I ignored the new Doc and took Dr. Levins advice. About 5 days ago I noticed that the RLS was gone. I do not know if the ferritin level has changed but the RLS has remained dormant since than. I am crossing my fingers that this is the solution for me. In any event, I would strongly suggest that everyone check their ferritin level. Maybe there really is something to it. Date: 10/13/98 2:37:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time To: rlssupport@... (Restless Legs Support) I'm still here and I feel a little guilty, because since I stopped my Elavil and got my ferritin up a little, and started on 0.5 mg of Klonopin at bedtime, I have not had 1 sleepless night due to my legs. I still get some attacks during the day, mild and I can live with them. I'm now able to sit still on the bus ride to work and actually can sleep on the bus. I am getting close to 6 hours sleep a night compared to when I was not getting any or at best 2. I have had a couple of nights when I couldn't turn my brain off, but my legs were not a problem. It has been 3 weeks since I walked the floor all night, and I'm truly grateful. Jeanne Hello all, I went to see a new GP a few weeks ago after my RLS and sleep deprivation got so bad that I literally was having trouble standing up straight and began having short term memory loss. The doc did a blood chemistry and I asked about ferritin and was told that it was part of the chemistry panel. well....it wasn't.... however, my RBCs were a full point below normal and some other indicator for iron uptake was also low. In addition my TSH was sky high indicating that my thyroid meds were not compensating properly. The doc seemed to think that the lack of thyroid hormone was also aggravating the RLS. Anyone else know about that? Anyway, doc put me on a pretty hefty dose of iron, B-12 and adjusted the thyroid meds and I have been recovering quite well. I also have been eating red meat 4-5 times a week when it used to be 1-2 times a month. Thanks for reminding me about the molasses. Sharifa 45 Vail,CO Low Ferritin: Elaty, M. D., Orlando, FL Binding protein for iron; it is one of the best gauges for how much in iron your body has stored or in a " saving account " with or without anemia. It is estimated 20% to 25% with RLS patients have low ferritin, i. e., it is usually advisable to be 50 to 100 for most RLS patients according to current research. What is acceptable for each individual is a matter of judgment and all the facts; not what a lab says is " normal. " Do not accept that the results were " normal " for you, ask what the test showed the level was, i. e., 6, or copy of the results. For example, a " normal " ferritin level according to one lab is " 12 to 150 " but a level of under 50 might not be acceptable for an RLS patient. When it rises to 50 (the level now recommended by the doctors at Hopkins), marked improvement usually occurs and sometimes minor improvement between 50 to 100. The use of a new medicine that improves access to iron in the body has been showed to reduce RLS. This medication is called erythropotein. If a condition such as arthritis, inflammation or any chronic illness (besides RLS) exists, the value of a ferritin level might not be accurate. There are other more sophisticated ways of measuring ferritin that reflect iron stores, but they are usually not needed. And those iron supplements with Vitamin C might be better absorbed. Caution: Too much iron can be very harmful: be tested and check with your physician before taking any iron supplements please! Abnormally Low B-12 or Folic Acid Levels: Medicare will not pay for this lab work on a diagnosis of RLS even though there are several medical journal articles indicating the link between RLS symptoms and folic acid deficiency. This is the result of still poor but rapidly improving recognition of potential causes and/or aggravating factors of RLS in the medical community. Some diagnosis it could be paid for are peripheral neuropathy, long-term treatment with acid suppression ulcer drugs, prior stomach surgery, psychiatric patients, etc. A deficiency of folic acid can cause symptoms of mental illness. Appeal it! The cost of these two might run $85 to $100 out-of-pocket but are indicated, nonetheless, in my opinion. IRON STATUS AND RESTLESS LEGS SYNDROME IN THE ELDERLY Author: OKeeffe ST; Gavin K; Lavan JN Address: Department of Geriatric Medicine, Beaumont Hospital, Dublin. Source: Age Ageing, 1994 May, 23:3, 200-3 Abstract: The relationship between iron status and the restless legs syndrome (RLS) was examined in 18 elderly patients with RLS and in 18 matched control subjects. A rating scale with a maximum score of 10 was used to assess the severity of RLS symptoms. Serum ferritin levels were reduced in the RLS patients compared with control subjects (median 33 micrograms/l vs. 59 micrograms/l, p < 0.01, Wilcoxon signed rank test); serum iron, vitamin B12 and folate levels and haemoglobin levels did not differ between the two groups. Serum ferritin levels were inversely correlated with the severity of RLS symptoms (Spearman's rho -0.53, p < 0.05). Fifteen patients with RLS were treated with ferrous sulphate for 2 months. RLS severity score improved by a median value of 4 points in six patients with an initial ferritin < or = 18 micrograms/l, by 3 points in four patients with ferritin > 18 micrograms/l, < or = 45 micrograms/l and by 1 point in five patients with ferritin > 45 micrograms/l, < 100 micrograms/l. Iron deficiency, with or without anaemia, is an important contributor to the development of RLS in elderly patients, and iron supplements can produce a significant reduction in symptoms. IRON AND THE RESTLESS LEGS SYNDROME Author: Sun ER; Chen CA; Ho G; Earley CJ; RP Address: s Hopkins University Dept. of Psychology, Baltimore, MD, USA. Source: Sleep, 1998 Jun 15, 21:4, 371-7 STUDY OBJECTIVES: Using blinded procedures, determine the relation between serum ferritin levels and severity of subjective and objective symptoms of the restless legs syndrome (RLS) for a representative patient sample covering the entire adult age range. DESIGN: All patient records from the past 4 years were retrospectively reviewed to obtain data from all cases with RLS. All patients were included who had ferritin levels obtained at about the same time as a polysomnogram (PSG), met diagnostic criteria for RLS, and were not on iron or medications that would reduce the RLS symptoms at the time of the PSG. SETTING: Sleep Disorders Center. PATIENTS: 27 (18 females, 9 males), aged 29-81 years. INTERVENTIONS: None. MEASUREMENTS AND RESULTS: Measurements included clinical ratings of RLS severity and PSG measures of sleep efficiency and periodic limb movements (PLMS) in sleep with and without arousal. Lower ferritin correlated significantly to greater RLS severity and decreased sleep efficiency. All but one patient with severe RLS had ferritin levels < or = 50 mcg/l. Patients with lower ferritin (< or = 50 mcg/l) also showed significantly more PLMS with arousal than did those with higher ferritin, but the PLMS/hour was not significantly related to ferritin. This last finding may be due to inclusion of two 'outliers' or because of severely disturbed sleep of the more severe RLS patients. CONCLUSIONS: These data are consistent with those from a prior unblinded study and suggest that RLS patients will have fewer symptoms if they have ferritin levels greater than 50 mcg/l. Periodic Limb Movement Disorder and Iron Deficiency BARAN AS, GOLDBERG R, DIPHILLIPO, MA CURRAN K, FRY JM Medical College Of Pennsylvania and Hahnemann University, Philadelphia, PA. It is thought that patients with restless legs syndrome (RLS) are likely to also have periodic limb movement disorder, although the converse is not necessarily true. Iron deficiency states have been reported to be associated with some cases of restless legs syndromel,2, but an association between periodic limb movement disorder (PLMD) and iron deficiency has not been identified, to our knowledge. Because of the strong association between RLS and PLMD, it was hypothesized that iron deficiency plays a role in the etiology of PLMD. Serum ferritin levels were recommended as part of further evaluation for patients with the diagnosis of PLMD, with or without RLS, following polysomnography. All patients recorded between December 1, 1992 and September 6, 1995 found to have periodic limb movements greater than or equal to 10 per hour of sleep, with or without symptoms of RLS were identified. Patients with a concurrent diagnosis of significant obstructive sleep apnea requiring CPAP were excluded. Serum ferritin is a sensitive measure of body iron stores. Abnormally low serum ferritin levels were defined as less than 22 ng/ml, and low normal levels were defined as falling within the range of 22-25 ng/ml. Of the 156 patients in whom serum ferritin determination was recommended to the referring physician and patient laboratory data were available in 37. The data are presented in the table below. Patients with PLMD & RLS number (%) Patients with PLMD only number (%) Total Patients number (%) Ferritin >25 ng/ml 12 (32.4) 17 (45.9) 29 (78.4) Ferritin 22-25 ng/ml 2 (5.4) 1 (2.7) 3 (8.1) Ferritin <22 ng/ml 3 (8.1) 2 (5.4) 5 (13.5) Total Patients 17 (45.9) 20 (54.1) 37 (100) We conclude that there may be an association between iron deficiency and PLMD in the absence of RLS. Improvement in nocturnal myoclonus and restless legs syndrome after treatment of iron-deficiency anemia: case report POCETA JS, LOUBE DI, HAYDUK R, ERMAN MK Scripps Clinic and Research Foundation, La Jolla, California, U.S.A . Restless legs syndrome (RLS), (Ekbom's syndrome) is a condition with unpleasant leg sensations, often leading to restlessness and sleep disruption. Nocturnal myoclonus, also called periodic limb movements of sleep (PLMS), is a movement disorder of repetitive, rhythmic, jerky movements of the legs during sleep which often accompanies RLS. The pathophysiology of these conditions is unknown, but there may be an alteration in central dopamine systems. For example treatment with dopaminergic agents is usually effective, and RLS has certain similarities to neurolepticinduced akathisia. Their appears to be a genetic component as well. Certain medical conditions appear to predispose to RLS and nocturnal myoclonus such as neuropathies, uremia, and anemias, but identifiable causative conditions are not present in the majority of cases. Ekbom described a series of patients with partial gastrectomy and irondeficiency anemia who developed RLS O'Keeffe compared measures of iron status in a group of elderly patients with RLS to a matched control group and found that serum ferritin levels were lower in the patient group, even without anemia. Improvement in RLS symptoms occurred with oral iron repletion. However, no studies have assessed nocturnal myoclonus in relationship to irondeficiency anemia or ill treatment. We report a case of both nocturnal myoclonus and RLS in which improvement occurred after treatment with intravenously administered iron. Case Report. A 47 yearold male complained of 18 months of sleep onset and sleep maintenance insomnia; associated with a feeling of an inner energy boom. He had bilateral restlessness of the legs when trying to sleep, punctuated by jerky movements and a feeling of electrical impulses in the legs. During sleep, his wife noted repetitive motions of the legs, and sometimes of the arms. Seven years previously he had undergone a gastric stapling procedure for treatment of obesity. His weight initially decreased from about 250 pounds to 200 pounds, but he had gained most of this back. He was taking B1 injections prophylactically. The sleep study showed 649 periodic leg movements, which were of high amplitude with myoclonic onset. He was treated with temazepam and propoxyphene with fair success. He was found to be anemic and iron deficient, as described in the Table. Evaluation found no cause of blood loss, but treatment with oral iron administration was not effective. He was therefore placed on intravenous iron infusions which corrected the anemia and normalized serum iron studies. His symptoms of RLS disappeared, as well as the movements during sleep. Repeat sleep study showed only 101 periodic leg movements, and a marked decrease in amplitude of these remaining jerks. He was able to sleep adequately with no medication. From the Night s Newsletter of April, 1997 RLS FOUNDATION WORD FROM THE DOCTORS THE IMPORTANCE OF IRON IN RLS " ...Nature does not want iron running freely around the body, so it provides proteins to which the iron can attach and thus be stored in the body without causing damage to other living tissue. Ferritin levels are a good indicator of how much iron you have store and, therefore, how much free iron you have available to the tissues to be utilized. (Referring to a patient): I gave her (referring to a patient who suffered from RLS for nearly six years with quite severe symptoms for the preceding two or three years -- she had gone to many different doctors seeking help and had tried the usual remedies...she had been getting no sleep at all by the time I saw her and was clearly at wit's end as to what to do -- describes my mother previously almost to the " T " ) iron supplements (iron sulphate 325 mg three times a day with meals). By the sixth month, the iron and Ferritin Level were in the mid-normal range, the pergolide had been discontinued and she no RLS Symptoms. I knew that treating with iron might improve the RLS, but exactly how much improvement was even a surprise to me. This case is not an exception. We have found iron to be low in about 20% to 25% of our RLS patients, and treatment of the low iron status had important clinical benefits on their RLS. The relationship between iron deficiency and RLS was first noted by Ekbom in 1960 (Ekbom, KA, Restless Legs Syndrome, Neurology, 1960;10:868-873). He reported the coincidental finding of low iron levels and the presence of RLS. He also noted the value of treating iron-deficient patients in improving the symptoms. More significantly, O'Keeffe et al. Iron Status and Restless Legs Syndrome in the Elderly, Age Ageing, 1994:23: 200-203, demonstrated a strong correlation between symptom severity of RLS and the Ferritin Level: the lower the Ferritin Level, the more severe the RLS symptoms. O'Keeffe also demonstrated that if you took patients who had Ferritin levels of less than 18 mcg/L or between 18 mcg/L and 45 mcg/L and treated them with iron, there was marked improvement in regards to their symptoms of RLS. The improvement in symptoms in those patients with 45 mcg/L and 100 mcg/L was less impressive but still showed some improvement. " Dr. Levin said that Dr. Earley and the other doctors at Hopkins suggested in RLS patients the Ferritin level should be a minimum of 50. Also, if you have a condition such as arthritis, inflammation, or any chronic illness (besides RLS) exists, it might look artificially high and you might need to have it tested by other more sophisticated ways of measuring Ferritin that reflect iron stores, but they are usually not needed. If your level is high, he also says you won't " rust out " until you get up to levels of >500. No need to worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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