Guest guest Posted March 21, 1999 Report Share Posted March 21, 1999 I have had bad RLS symptoms lately , mainly after heavy exercise such as tennis and swimming. In the last two weeks I have also had a tingling sensation, mainly in the right arm, also after heavy exercise. I assumed that the tingling was caused by a neck problem I have, and I visited a chiropractor to-day who thought that this was the case. It is interesting though to see that other RLS sufferers have a similar problem. Is there a connection? 61 Sydney Australia rlssupport (AT) onelist (DOT) com wrote: > We have a new web site! > http://www.onelist.com > Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This forum is for support only. The information posted to this List is for support purposes > and is not intended to replace the examination, diagnosis and treatment of a licensed > physician and no such claims are inferred. > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in today's digest: > > 1. new to list - Barbara > From: MetaMom123@... > 2. Re: Nausea Drugs; Help dr. Buchfuher! > From: LINDA5222@... > 3. Re: Herbs,Allopathic,Homeopathy > > 4. Re: Herbs,Allopathic,Homeopathy > > 5. Re: Meditation/breathing > From: ninettecampbell@... (Ninette ) > 6. Re: Meditation/breathing > From: ninettecampbell@... (Ninette ) > 7. Re: RLS in arms > From: RDMorrell1@... > 8. Re: RLS and MRI > From: RDMorrell1@... > 9. RLS in arms > From: jruppen@... ( & Ruppenthal) > 10. Re: Exercise > > 11. Re: Jelly Beans and Kitchen Sinks > From: Orion21@... > 12. Mistake? > > 13. Re: Jelly Beans and Kitchen Sinks > > 14. Re: Exercise > From: ninettecampbell@... (Ninette ) > 15. Re: Exercise > From: RAINBOWPED@... > 16. Re: MD's & meds > From: RAINBOWPED@... > 17. Re: hands, pins & needles > > 18. Re: Moms with RLS > > 19. Re: RLS and MRI > > 20. Re: Herbs, Allopathic & Homeopathy > > 21. Re: FW:Joke, E-Mail Junkie > > 22. arms > > 23. deep in bones > > 24. thumper/chumper > > 25. HMO's (non-rls) > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:09:34 EST > From: MetaMom123@... > Subject: new to list - Barbara > > Barbara wrote: > " Has anyone heard that Prozac may interfere with Sinemet, or even exacerbate > the rls? " > > Yes, we most definitely HAVE heard that quite possibly, and most likely, > Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil......many antidepressants.......as well as > antihistamines.......will exacerbate RLS. > > " What is Mirapex? I finally saw a neurologist Last year and he wanted me to > take Clonazepam, but I haven't had the nerve to start. He also wanted me to > have a sleep-study to confirm the diagnosis. Has anyone had one? " > > Many in the group have had sleep studies. This is not needed to determine > whether or not you have RLS.....but it will tell you if you have PLMD along > with it, or sleep apnea. Mainly, the study will rule out some dangerous > situations and give you an overall picture of your own basic sleep structure. > If you have insurance that will cover this, it is my personal recommendation > that you go ahead and have it.. My neurologist did not feel comfortable > prescribing RLS medications until he ruled out all possible causes of my > symptoms......and I agreed with this way of thinking. I also had an MRI of my > brain to rule out Meningioma, and a great deal of blood work. > > Mirapex has been used by quite a few in our group this past year and seemed to > be the " latest and greatest " thing out there for RLS........at least, for a > while. We are beginning to hear reports of insomnia, nausea, occasional nasal > stuffiness.....that are making some of us who were ready to give it a > try......stop and reconsider. For some it is a Godsend........for others, it > is not. My opinion is that it is still in the running with the best of the > meds for this affliction....and that each of us will have different results > with it. In my non-professional opinion, I would think that your Sinemet has > done all that it is going to do for you and will just continue to cause more > problems with augmentation unless you take a controlled break from it or cut > way back. You really should check the sites, Jodi's is good, for a list of > all the drugs being used at this time. > > Clonazepam or Klonopin.........I do not recommend at this time. I took it for > three years and had serious depression when I stopped. The drug has a long > half-life and makes some people very drowsy the next day. ( I did not have > this problem) I believe it is used mostly for PLMD and insomnia and not for > RLS.........it was always hit or miss with me in helping my RLS and mostly > worked only when used in conjunction with another med. > > You would most likely benefit greatly from checking out the RLS sites on the > net......and reading the letters to the doctor at the Southern California > Support Group site. > > There is also much information for alternative therapies if you decide to > persevere in that direction. The power of your will most likely will play an > important role here. After you have had your Ferritin level checked, which is > very important.......(not just your iron......your Ferritin).......it is > possible that magnesium, potassium, B Vitamins, Folic Acid........a variety of > supplements could possibly help you. Do your research and buy from a > reputable dealer. Jill Gunzel has a lot of information on her site about > alternative therapies. > > Caffeine, sugar and exercise ...............different results with different > people. You will have to find out for yourself. > > Most of all.......keep your sense of humor. Take all advice with a grain of > salt. Make the time to research everything yourself because it is highly > likely that your condition will get worse as you get older. A warm bath and a > cup of fragrant tea (without stimulants such as Ginseng) can be very helpful > for a mild attack. Don't hesitate to Bitch and complain and cry if you need > to.......that's what we're here for.......to support you. A lot of us have > nights when we just need to do this.......at least, I do. > > Lastly, I recommend putting serious thought into some things to do that will > distract you when you have a bad attack in the middle of the night. Some > things that give you pleasure.......crafts, puzzles, games, videos, > etc,..........quite often, before you know it, you have calmed down enough to > go back to bed. It is also important not to allow the attack to get a strong > hold on you. Get up and move around as soon as you are able to........as I > did tonight at 2am. It is now almost 4. > > I'm sure you will hear from many others in the group with their experiences > and recommendations. Hopefully, some of it will help you. I'll attach some > links for you to check out when you have time. And don't forget, there is a > chat from 9 to 10 Eastern standard time on Thursday evenings on AOL, that is > now accessible for everyone. Hope you are resting well! > > Connie, 62, MD http://www.wemove.org/rls_pat.html " >WE MOVE - Restless > Legs Syndrome: Information for Patients > http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/rls.html " >RLS Links > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/somno/rlsrx.htm " >RLS > medications - Southern Cal > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/somno/rls.htmhttp://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/somno/rls.htm > http://www.netzone.com/~gunzel/rls.html " >Jill's RLS Page > http://surf.to/rlsinfo " >Jodi's RLS Links > http://www.sleepfoundation.org/ " >National Sleep Foundation Home Page > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:10:01 EST > From: LINDA5222@... > Subject: Re: Nausea Drugs; Help dr. Buchfuher! > > Barbara > I purchased Virginias " Sleep Thief " shortly after her death and and wondering > if I got the (new?) one. I don't know she had written two of them. Do they > both have the same title? I read a blurb that she had written a book (Ithink > called) Jesus' s Handmaiden which will be out if it isn't already. Let me > know if there are 2 " Sleep Thiefs " ??? > > Lee > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 03:48:28 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Herbs,Allopathic,Homeopathy > > Kathy, > Forgot to ask you - what med for rls has the potential for liver damage? > I'm taking Mirapex, and REALLY want to know!! > ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 03:44:08 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Herbs,Allopathic,Homeopathy > > Hi Kathy, > A balance here is certainly in order - your post pointed that out very > well. I don't think there can be a doubt in anyone's mind that we are > not always " safe " just because we stick to traditional meds, any more > than we are by indiscriminately gulping down whatever GNC has to offer. I > can understand your anger over now having a liver and cholesterol > problem, probably due to prescribed medications. I agree we must be wary > of either traditional or alternative remedies, while at the same time > finding relief, without adding paranoia to our problems! Getting more > difficult all the time, isn't it?! > ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 06:49:13 -0500 (EST) > From: ninettecampbell@... (Ninette ) > Subject: Re: Meditation/breathing > > Lynn, > I also have problems breathing during a bad attack. There are times > when I literally cannot > breathe during each " jerk " and the seconds between are few. Was it you > and/or Lynn talking about " hands " . My hands are worse than my legs when > they " act up " . In my late > twenties, I would often be wakened in the morning with a bad attack in > my hands and arms. This is why I cannot do computer, crafts, or read > during an attack. > Take care, > Ninette - 51 - TN > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:14:05 -0500 (EST) > From: ninettecampbell@... (Ninette ) > Subject: Re: Meditation/breathing > > Well, that makes a lot of sense. I write to you > Lynn, and say " Was it you and/or Lynn > (I meant Tina) that was (or were) talking about your hands ? " Sorry > about that. I am sooooooo > tired. > Ninette > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 07:54:38 EST > From: RDMorrell1@... > Subject: Re: RLS in arms > > Cindy: I too have RLS in my arms. When I have a bad attack, the crawly > sensation moves up into my forearms, so I not only shake both legs, but both > arms, not necessarily at the same time either. It's quite the sight when it > gets that bad. Also, if I have progressed to that point, I get a tingling > feeling in my chest. Until the medicine kicks in there is no way I can even > sit down. I haven't heard of too many people with it in their arms. I guess > we're just lucky. Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to stop the attack > from progressing to that point, but as everyone else, I keep on working on it. > Diane 52 in NH > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:14:58 EST > From: RDMorrell1@... > Subject: Re: RLS and MRI > > June: I always find it amazing when I read my mail and find someone who has > put my experiences down in words. I too went for an MRI, forewarned the > Techs, that I might have a problem, etc. I went through the whole test > without a tingle. How do we explain that?, and how do we explain waking up > with an attack? RLS is such a strange thing. There is no rhyme or reason for > when you will or won't get an attack, in my case anyway. I guess when we find > out the answers to those questions, we'll be well on our way to a cure. > Reading the experiences of others in this group is always comforting to me. > I've tried the concentration thing, with no results. I've tried the herbal > thing, (a bowl of fresh lavender on my night stand), with no results. I've > tried tons of meds, with no results, except for a few temporary ones. Other > than the affects of the meds, there is very little I can do to stop or prevent > an attack. Well, I rambled on a little, but just wanted to identify with you > on the MRI experience. Thanks to everyone for sharing all their > RLS experiences eventually we'll come up with something that will help us all. > Diane 52 in NH > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:20:56 -0600 (CST) > From: jruppen@... ( & Ruppenthal) > Subject: RLS in arms > > Dear Cindy, Diane, and group, > I am another one of those who experiences RLS in the > arms...primarily from the elbows up and especially in the shoulders. > Makes me want to shrug ....and I wish I COULD shrug it off! The support > group leader in my area also has it in her arms. > Windtree/, 60, Wis > PS. For those who wonder about the " Windtree " , I use my pen name because > the group has other s. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 06:40:48 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Exercise > > Kim, > I've noticed that exercise also makes the rls worse, but am not about to > give it up, as it works so well at keeping depression away, not to > mention the pounds. I have moderated my routines however, to include more > upper body and less leg workouts. This has helped somewhat, but I have > put on a few pounds since I stopped jogging (just walk the treadmill with > a slight incline now), and I miss that sweaty runners high, but oh well - > can't have everything. > ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:45:40 EST > From: Orion21@... > Subject: Re: Jelly Beans and Kitchen Sinks > > In a message dated 3/20/99 3:41:28 AM, rlssupport (AT) onelist (DOT) com writes: > > < > brought a much needed belly laugh from me, and a new trick to try.>> > > June- > > Thanks for the nice note of welcome. It was great when I found this list. My > PCP, still gives me a funny look when I mention the RLS to him. It was the > rheumy, that finally confirmed what it was. Well, the Jelly Beans worked for > two nites... and last nite I was up all nite. Hate that! I even ate a half bag > of 'em, maybe it was sugar overload. OR washing dishes in the bathtub. Hate > that too! Seems the drain pipe busted and now they've got to excavate the > kitchen floor, after they remove the kitchen cabinets/counter, and they may > have to dig all the way into my daughter's bedroom to find where the break is. > Clearly a long term, major overhaul. I live in an apt. building with no > basement. Maybe last nite was more stress than jelly beans. I have the RLS all > over my body. It gets so bad, when I do sleep, I wake up because I'm > contracting all the muscles in my body, esp. my abdomen. This, of course, does > wonders for the Fibro and the suspected Ehler-Danlos or Scleroderma... they > don't know which yet. BUT I forced two hyacinth bulbs in my living room and > the aroma is SPRING. It's beautiful. When, I start thinking about the kitchen > and the lack of sleep, I go take a whif and remember the beautiful garden I > used to have. > > Enjoy all....let's dream of nice things while fully awake > > Steph > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:48:23 -0500 > > Subject: Mistake? > > Think I might have made a serious mistake and sent a personal letter to > my son to the entire group. If so, please take with a grain of salt. > Then again, maybe I didn't, so I won't go into explaining the details. > Is this by any chance sleep deprivation at its finest, early warning > alzheimer, normal dementia, or just something that could happen to > anyone? (please pick the last choice) > ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:01:04 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Jelly Beans and Kitchen Sinks > > Steph, > So sorry the jellybeans failed last night - I notice some sugar does the > trick, but too much has the reverse effect. Possibly the stress of > having to have a major portion of your home torn up to fix a stopped up > pipe is a contributing factor! What a good idea to have the fresh tulips > in your living room - aroma therapy, for sure. It must be hard adjusting > to apartment living after having your own home and garden. Sounds like > you have a wonderful sense of humor - the best medicine, to quote Readers > Digest. Hope you continue to write. BTW, Jill's Tension Tamer Tea is > wonderful - even better than sugar - only drawback is that it > precipitates a potty call soon after, which of course wakes me up again. > ne, 59, Lawrenceville, NJ > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:05:48 -0500 (EST) > From: ninettecampbell@... (Ninette ) > Subject: Re: Exercise > > ne & group, > After writing earlier this morning (in a fog) and saying how > tired I was, I donned my sweats and went out for a morning run. ne, > you are so right, there is nothing like that " sweaty runner's high " . I > am so thankful that my depression is lifting in time for rhis first day > of spring, and that I now have the desire to get out there and enjoy it. > Exercise (for me, runnning & > walking) is truly a great preventative for that terrible enemy of mine, > depression. Unfortunately, winter weather, illness, injuries, letting > other things consume my time, too often take me away from it. I've also > put back on 10 of the 45 lbs. I've lost since last March, but it's > getting ready to come back off. I say, > " Hello Spring and thank you Lord for a beautiful > day " . > Ninette 51 TN > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:01:49 EST > From: RAINBOWPED@... > Subject: Re: Exercise > > In a message dated 3/20/99 2:42:28 AM !!!First Boot!!!, beckerk@... > writes: > > << I just have a question...does anyone find there rls worse after exercise, > even just a 20 minute brisk walk? I find it twice as bad after any type of > areobic exercise. >> > > Yes, I use to take nightly walks for exercise and I found that it aggrevated > my RLS; however, when I ride my bicycle at night, no problems. Go figure, eh? > > RAINBOWPED@... > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:17:51 EST > From: RAINBOWPED@... > Subject: Re: MD's & meds > > In a message dated 3/20/99 5:48:03 AM !!!First Boot!!!, KMTW4825@... > writes: > > << More importantly it is very, very true that most MD's DO NOT know > a lot about the meds they prescribe other than what they are told by the > pharmaceutical representatives. Most MD's do not tell you either of the > potential dangers or side effects to the drugs they prescribe. >> > > Not good medicine, IMHO. > A doc has no business prescribing any medicine that he/she does not know a lot > about! Also, a doc is foolish if their knowledge about a medicine is only > what the drug reps tell them. Bad medicine! Most docs are taught that you > should become very very familiar with a few of the medicines from each class > of drugs and use only those that they are very very knowledgeable about. That > is why we RLS'ers some times run into resistance when we visit our docs > demanding some " new " drug (new to the doctor that is). A " good " and caring > doc will rise to the challenge and do some " homework " and become knowledgeable > about this " new " drug. > Many " ethical " and honest docs will refuse to see drug reps or they will > " tolerate " the drug reps so as to obtain drug samples for their patient's > benefit. A good physician will not base his/her knowledge/prescription/advice > about a drug simply based on what a drug rep has " sold " them. Many docs will > not recommend/advise certain herbal treatments because they can NOT tell you > either of the potential dangers or side effects of the herbal treatment > (because it is not known by anyone - no scientific studies) and good docs > don't like to " experiment " on their patients. > > RAINBOWPED@... > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:39:06 -0600 > > Subject: Re: hands, pins & needles > > Cindy, > > I too get RLS in my hands, even more so in my arms. I have recently had an increase in the > " pins & needles " phenomine, waking up at night with a whole arm (right or left) in that state > which I call " asleep " , but could certainly be described as " pins and needles " . It is the whole > arm, surface skin, and goes away when I shake the arm and flex my hand. I was going to mention > it to my physician when I go in for my next medication renewal, in April, since it is a new > thing for me at this frequency. Previously, I had that sensations rarely, and more likely in my > legs, now it is two or three times a week. I would be interested to hear how many others in the > group have this, and do they think it is a variation on the RLS paresthesias, or something > different. > > Jo from Mo > > Cindy wrote: > > > > > > > I also have it in both arms and both legs. Do any of you get pins and > > needles all over your body when your rls is active. It goes away when my > > meds kick in but I get it everywhere on my body, including my head, it for > > some reason isn't limited to the muscular problem in the arms and legs it is > > a completely surface problem.>> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:53:29 -0600 > > Subject: Re: Moms with RLS > > > Another Mom with RLS symptoms. Mine has seen psychiatrists off and on for years, and been > > considered a little crazy. She now has a formal diagnosis of depression and panic disorder. > > I'm sure that some (certainly not all) of her problems are related to RLS. She complained of > > creepy sensations before a panic attack for years. (She was also labeled as a hypochondriac > > since I was 10 years old.) I believe, that the RLS brings on her panic attacks frequently, > > and that it is aggravated by stress. But then, who am I. I made her copies of the foundation > > handout to take to her psychitrists (who sees her every three months to renew prescriptions) > > and he poo pooed the who idea. Her GP did give her a scrip for quinnine for the " leg cramps " > > at night. She has taken Librium for years (a small dose in the evening), and I suppose that > > probably helps a little. Her RLS is probably not as bad as many have, but the panic attacks > > are quite debilitating when she has them. It irritates me that physicians are not willing to > > listen, but since she is already on so many meds for other stuff, and as an elderly widow > > finances are really difficult, I have just learned to shut up. She is not willing to > > challenge her physicians. > > Jo from Mo, two more weeks in Texas. > > > > > > > << My poor mother suffered for years. Would not go to doc even when I told > > her what it was. Her reply was that everyone else in the family had it so > > why bother. >> > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:09:41 -0600 > > Subject: Re: RLS and MRI > > I was so scared at the " thought " of being confined in an MRI, let alone jumpy legs, that I took > a preventative dose (prescribed by the neurologists) of Valium. (One pill (small dose) 30 > minutes before, and another 10 minutes.) For me at least, part of the problem was > claustrophobia, I can't deal with confined spaces. When they do the MRI you have a panic button > that you can squeeze if it gets too bad. I know of at least one person who had to abort an MRI > due to panic from the claustrophobia. The MRI techs told me they would much prefer someone take > Valium, than have to stop the procedure. > > The new, side open MRI's are supposed to not be so bad. If you need an MRI, have RLS AND are > claustrophobic a little bit of Valium would be worth asking for. The only drawback was the > doctor told me I could not drive afterwards. I really felt fine, and made it through the test > great. By the way, one should never go into one of these tests without knowing what to expect, > they can be quite scary if you are not prepared. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:28:09 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Herbs, Allopathic & Homeopathy > > Kathy & Everyone: > As someone who is relatively new to this group and tends to sit back > and observe, your letter was one of the most informative and insightful > letters that I have read. Your post accomplished what this support group > is all about. Food for thought. I read and assimilate everything that is > written, take heed of what is relevent to me and discard what is not. Your > post gave me a little of both. People in this group told me at the start > to not be afraid to voice my opinion, because it is just that (my opinion), > be it either helpful or controversial. Thank you and continue to keep us > informed. > > Louise - 58 - Pa. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:14:19 -0600 > > Subject: Re: FW:Joke, E-Mail Junkie > > > Subject: E-Mail Junkie > > > > >> You know you're an E-mail Junkie when ... > > >> > > >> 22. You get a sudden illness the day after your modem dies. > > >> > > >> 21. You start tilting your head sideways to smile. > > >> > > >> 20. You tell the cab driver you live at > > >> " http://1000.edison.garden/house/brick.html. " > > >> > > >> 19. You move into a new house and decide to Netscape before you > > >> landscape. > > >> > > >> 18. You don't know what sex three of your closest friends are, because > > >> they > > >> have neutral nicknames and you never bothered to ask. > > >> > > >> 17. Your phone bill comes to your doorstep in a box. > > >> > > >> 16. You check your mail. It says " no new messages. " So you check it > > >> again. > > >> > > >> 15. You can't call your mother...she doesn't have a modem. > > >> > > >> 14. Your cat has its own home page. > > >> > > >> 13. All of your friends have an @ in their names. > > >> > > >> 12. You start introducing yourself as " Doe at CSi dot com. " > > >> > > >> 11. You refer to going to the bathroom as downloading. > > >> > > >> 10. You find yourself typing " com " after every period when using a word > > >> processor.com > > >> > > >> 9. Your hard drive crashes. You haven't logged in for two hours. You > > >> start to > > >> twitch. You pick up the phone and manually dial your ISP's access number. > > >> You > > >> try to hum to communicate with the modem... and you succeed. > > >> > > >> 8. You start using smileys in your snail mail. : ) > > >> > > >> 7. You laugh at people with 14000-baud modems. > > >> > > >> 6. You decide to stay in college for an additional year or two, just for > > >> the > > >> free Internet access. > > >> > > >> 5. You spend half of the plane trip with your laptop on your lap....and > > >> your > > >> child in the overhead compartment. > > >> > > >> 4. You turn off your modem and get this awful empty feeling, like you > > >> just > > >> pulled the plug on a loved one. > > >> > > >> 3. You name your child Dotcom. > > >> > > >> 2. You get a tattoo that reads " This body best viewed with Netscape > > >> Navigator > > >> 3.0 or higher. " > > >> > > >> 1. You wake up at 3 a.m. to go to the bathroom and stop to check your > > >> e-mail > > >> on the way back to bed. > > >> > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 01:03:44 +0200 > > Subject: arms > > I also have rls in my arms, never in my hands though. > It starts in my right upper arm, like an itch inside I cannot reach to > scratch, then it rises > up to my shoulder, my neck and the right side of my head.I try to shake > it of, > to stretch my neck, to move my arm in my shoulder, but it is more > difficult to find some temporary relieve than in my legs. > Tonight I went to a linedance party, speaking of exercise,and I forgot > to take my Permax > with me, so the first one I took at midnight, the second 10 minutes > later. > Now it is 1 am and I am kicking at my computer, waiting for the Permax > to " kick " in. > Marleen,53,Holland > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 23 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:08:42 -0500 > > Subject: deep in bones > > Cindy, > > I agree, I have always thought it was just in the muscles, but I'm > beginning to wonder if it's not also deep inside of the bones, because I > can't press hard enough in the muscles, it seems to be even deeper, deeper, > deeper, and where else can it go deeper, than clear into the bone. Maybe > it's in the bone marrow, I give up. What a complicated disorder, But that > could explain why you have it in your head. So far, it's not in my arms or > head, nor do I get the pins and needles, but I have had times when it seems > to be in my abdomin, taking my breath. I truly sympothize with you, I > can't imagine how it would feel to be in my head. ( and I don't mean > concentration). > > June 65, Delaware > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 24 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:40:24 -0700 > > Subject: thumper/chumper > > Just a note - we have talked often in this group about the " chumper " , > our lower cost alternative to the high priced " thumper " . I found one > today at Sam's club - the Homedics Therapist Select for 39.95. Good deal. > Feels great! > > Kathy - 38 and prowling the house at night in Utah > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 25 > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 01:37:33 -0500 > > Subject: HMO's (non-rls) > > Top 30 Signs You've Joined a Cheap HMO > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 1. Pedal-powered dialysis machines. > 2. Use of antibiotics deemed an " unauthorized experimental procedure, " > 3. Head-wound victim in the waiting room is on the last chapter of > " War and Peace, " > 4. You ask for Viagra. You get a popsicle stick and duct tape. > 5. Annual breast exam conducted at hooters. > 6. Exam room has a tip jar. > 7. You swear you saw salad tongs and a crab fork on the instrument > tray just before the anesthesia kicked in. > 8. " Will you be paying in eggs or pelts? " > 9. Tight budget prevents acquisition of separate rectal thermometers. > 10. " Take two leeches and call me in the morning, " > 11. The company logo features a hand squeezing a bleeding turnip. > 12. Tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicle. > 13. Covered postnatal care consists of leaving your baby on Mia > Farrow's doorstep. > 14. Radiation treatment for cancer patients requires them to walk > around with a postcard from Chernobyl in their pocket. > 15. " Pre-natal vitamin " prescription is a box of Tic-Tacs. > 16. Chief Surgeon graduated from University of Benihana. > 17. Directions to your doctor's office include, " take a left when you > enter the trailer park, " > 18. Doctor listens to your heart through a paper towel tube. > 19. Only item listed under Preventive Care feature of coverage is " an > apple a day, " > 20. Only participating Physicians are Dr. Fine, Dr. , Dr. Fine. > 21. Only proctologist in the plan is " Gus " from Roto-Rooter. > 22. Plan covers only " group " gynecological exams. > 23. Preprinted prescription pads that say " Walk it off, candy ass, " > 24. To avoid a time consuming and expensive throat culture, the doctor > just French kisses you. > 25. Recycled bandages. > 26. You can get your flu shot as soon as " the " hypodermic needle is > dry. > 27. Your " primary care physician " is wearing the pants you gave to > goodwill last month. > 28. 24-hour claims line is 1-800-TUF-LUCK > 29. Costly MRI equipment efficiently replaced by an oversized 2-sided > copier. > 30. Enema? The lavatory faucet swivels to face upward. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > > JACK > snow in the forecast in western nys > > > http://www.frontiernet.net/~goviers > updated 3/20/99. > > On the Internet, nobody knows you're a cat. > > The total sum of the world's IQ is constant. If the population is > increasing, then intelligence is ... > > A little village of Trids (like Smurfs only green) had built their water > well on the top of a hill. An evil troll took over the hill and wouldn't > let the Trids get any water. Every Trid that went up the hill was kicked > down by the troll. Frustrated, the Trids asked the local Rabbi for help. He > climbed the hill and got the water with any trouble from the troll. When he > went back up the hill he asked the troll why he had not kicked him down the > hill. The troll replied, " Silly rabbi, kicks are for Trids. " > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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