Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 connie and june and all...........must admit that while neurontin has quieted my spasms somewhat an apparent 'side effect' has been increased sleep and the more neurontin i take the more brain-dead i get during the day although that may just be from getting older . JACK 57 some snow tonight in western nys??? At 03:53 AM 4/11/99 EDT, you wrote: >From: MetaMom123@... > >June, > >Gosh, did the doctor actually say that he gave you Neurontin to make you >sleep? I can't imagine that........Neurontin is an anti-convulsant. I can >see it helping your RLS a little extra along with the Mirapex, but it never >did anything to help me sleep at all, and I don't remember that as a side >effect. How interesting! > >Connie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >shop.theglobe.com * One Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in the U.S.! >Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! >Accessories, Apparel, Gourmet, Jewelry, Kids, Outdoors, Sports, More! > http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This forum is for support only. The information posted to this List is for support purposes >and is not intended to replace the examination, diagnosis and treatment of a licensed >physician and no such claims are inferred. > > We've done it again!!! Please visit our NEW " Spring " homepage! Enjoy:-) NEW - homepage URL: http://www.frontiernet.net/~goviers updated 4/1/99. OR If you liked our old homepage, you can now find it at this address: http://netjunk.com/users/chief39 On the Internet, nobody knows you're a cat. The total sum of the world's IQ is constant. If the population is increasing, then intelligence is ... " Millions yearn for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 connie and june and all...........must admit that while neurontin has quieted my spasms somewhat an apparent 'side effect' has been increased sleep and the more neurontin i take the more brain-dead i get during the day although that may just be from getting older . JACK 57 some snow tonight in western nys??? At 03:53 AM 4/11/99 EDT, you wrote: >From: MetaMom123@... > >June, > >Gosh, did the doctor actually say that he gave you Neurontin to make you >sleep? I can't imagine that........Neurontin is an anti-convulsant. I can >see it helping your RLS a little extra along with the Mirapex, but it never >did anything to help me sleep at all, and I don't remember that as a side >effect. How interesting! > >Connie > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >shop.theglobe.com * One Stop Shopping * Free Shipping in the U.S.! >Live Personal Shopper * Satisfaction Guaranteed * No Hassle Returns! >Accessories, Apparel, Gourmet, Jewelry, Kids, Outdoors, Sports, More! > http://www.onelist.com/ad/shoptheglobe0 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This forum is for support only. The information posted to this List is for support purposes >and is not intended to replace the examination, diagnosis and treatment of a licensed >physician and no such claims are inferred. > > We've done it again!!! Please visit our NEW " Spring " homepage! Enjoy:-) NEW - homepage URL: http://www.frontiernet.net/~goviers updated 4/1/99. OR If you liked our old homepage, you can now find it at this address: http://netjunk.com/users/chief39 On the Internet, nobody knows you're a cat. The total sum of the world's IQ is constant. If the population is increasing, then intelligence is ... " Millions yearn for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 Hi JE, I find Neurontin somewhat helpful in reducing facial pain. I have taken it for about 2 years, usually at 1800mg daily, in divided doses. Lower doses were ineffective, and I didn't find that taking higher doses provided any more relief. I don't experience any side effects, but two of the most common ones are drowsiness and dizziness, especially at first. They often wear off with continued use. Good luck, Jen >Is anyone out there taking neurontin? My derm is thinking of >prescribing it for my facial pain. What's it like? Side effects? >Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 Hi JE, I find Neurontin somewhat helpful in reducing facial pain. I have taken it for about 2 years, usually at 1800mg daily, in divided doses. Lower doses were ineffective, and I didn't find that taking higher doses provided any more relief. I don't experience any side effects, but two of the most common ones are drowsiness and dizziness, especially at first. They often wear off with continued use. Good luck, Jen >Is anyone out there taking neurontin? My derm is thinking of >prescribing it for my facial pain. What's it like? Side effects? >Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 Hi JE, I find Neurontin somewhat helpful in reducing facial pain. I have taken it for about 2 years, usually at 1800mg daily, in divided doses. Lower doses were ineffective, and I didn't find that taking higher doses provided any more relief. I don't experience any side effects, but two of the most common ones are drowsiness and dizziness, especially at first. They often wear off with continued use. Good luck, Jen >Is anyone out there taking neurontin? My derm is thinking of >prescribing it for my facial pain. What's it like? Side effects? >Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 I am on a LARGE dose of Neurontin a day (2400 mg-divided doses) for my neuropathic pain, and it does help. But it does nothing for my facial flushing. Feel free to write me if you have any questions, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 I am on a LARGE dose of Neurontin a day (2400 mg-divided doses) for my neuropathic pain, and it does help. But it does nothing for my facial flushing. Feel free to write me if you have any questions, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2002 Report Share Posted March 20, 2002 I am on a LARGE dose of Neurontin a day (2400 mg-divided doses) for my neuropathic pain, and it does help. But it does nothing for my facial flushing. Feel free to write me if you have any questions, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 birgit, I take 600 mg, 6 tablets a day. Yes, it help the pain, it mostly helps the to relieve the anxiety that you experience associated with the pain. When I first started the med. I noted great assistance in the relief the the symptoms associated with chronic pain, but not the pain itself. Now, I really would not what to fast the pain without the assistance of the Neurontin. I take all six of my pills in the evening, I found it made me too sleepy during the day hours. gail birgit belcher wrote: > Hello everybody, > I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly feedings,in order > to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and my doctor > is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for painrelief?Is it > helpful? and what dosage are you taking? > Please let me know > Birgit > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2002 Report Share Posted May 6, 2002 Dear Birgit, I take 1200 mg Neurontin a day... I would never offer it to someone as a solution for pain, I don't think of it as a pain med at all. It does seem to help with my anxiety level, which inadvertently has to do with how well I manage pain, but I definitely don't think of it as a pain med in and of itself. It also has helped with my mental acuity to some degree, and has helped with my depression a little bit (I believe)... But it always concerns me when I hear it being prescribed as a source for pain relief. It surely would not work in that capacity for me - I hope that you will find it helpful and effective. If you don't, please let your doctor know right away that you're in terrific pain and that it is NOT helping, and that you need real pain relief. Good luck Birgit... Peace & best wishes, Terry in KC << birgit belcher wrote: > Hello everybody, > I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly feedings,in order > to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and my doctor > is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for painrelief?Is it > helpful? and what dosage are you taking? > Please let me know > Birgit >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Hey Birgit, My daughter was started on Neurontin a few months ago. The docs stopped her loratab and put her on Ultram. The docs are pleased she is not on narcotics. To me...I just don't know. She has bad days and the docs told her when in worse pain take the loratab. I have to talk her into it cuz she wants to do what the docs want...no narcotics. She does take them when bad enough and lucky I have a good supply built up for right now. Anyway, she takes 300 mg of neurontin in the morn and afternoon, at bedtime 600 mg. Her GI says she is doing better cuz she only takes 3 or 4 lortab a week. Maybe the neurontin is helping with that but the last two weeks she has had to up the loratab, and some days through the last few months are just worse than others and she will take more of the lortab. If your pain is bad you probably need something with the neurontin. Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, > > > Hello everybody, > I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly feedings,in order > to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and my doctor > is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for painrelief?Is it > helpful? and what dosage are you taking? > Please let me know > Birgit > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Not confusing at all, . I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then, and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist " pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " - not in my book! Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin - actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and feet as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha. Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed " sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder she couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt, either. Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with her, haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't come back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep. I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more for anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions? She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was for 1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to serve as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool. Never once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested " upping " the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded expression and watched the tornado whiz past. Peace, Terry in KC << Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Hi Terry, My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took Ambien I might stop breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. I'm 6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock me out. Jerry ************************ Re: Re: Neurontin >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep. > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Terry: I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about. >From: roguekc@... >Reply-To: pancreatitis >To: swetet@..., pancreatitis >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT > >Not confusing at all, . > >I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked >the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then, >and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist " >pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " - >not >in my book! > >Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin - >actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the > " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and >feet >as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha. > >Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't >think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed " >sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder >she >couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt, >either. > >Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with >her, >haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't >come >back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and >something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she >increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she >increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep. >I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > >I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next >day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with >Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more >for >anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions? > >She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me >that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was >for >1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time >meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to >serve >as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect >this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do >like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool. >Never >once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested > " upping " >the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded >expression and watched the tornado whiz past. > >Peace, >Terry in KC > > > ><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the >support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >> _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Dear Jerry, Your doctor is definitely full of something. He should try an enema I'm thinking, that is to help him get rid of what he's full of. Ambien is so safe and so mild I seriously doubt that it could make you stop breating, even if you found you were allergic to it. I don't know about anyone else here, but I personally have never heard of any Ambien related deaths. Unless you have other problems your not expressing here; I think it would take an awful lot of Ambien to be fatal. Your Friend, Mark --- Jerry Pople jmpople@...> wrote: > Hi Terry, > My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took > Ambien I might stop > breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems > pretty ridiculous to me. I'm > 6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock > me out. > > Jerry > ************************ > > Re: Re: Neurontin > > > >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at > ALL. (Even BEFORE she > > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days > at a time with no sleep. > > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Dear Jerry, Your doctor is definitely full of something. He should try an enema I'm thinking, that is to help him get rid of what he's full of. Ambien is so safe and so mild I seriously doubt that it could make you stop breating, even if you found you were allergic to it. I don't know about anyone else here, but I personally have never heard of any Ambien related deaths. Unless you have other problems your not expressing here; I think it would take an awful lot of Ambien to be fatal. Your Friend, Mark --- Jerry Pople jmpople@...> wrote: > Hi Terry, > My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took > Ambien I might stop > breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems > pretty ridiculous to me. I'm > 6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock > me out. > > Jerry > ************************ > > Re: Re: Neurontin > > > >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at > ALL. (Even BEFORE she > > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days > at a time with no sleep. > > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Share Posted May 7, 2002 Dear Jerry, Your doctor is definitely full of something. He should try an enema I'm thinking, that is to help him get rid of what he's full of. Ambien is so safe and so mild I seriously doubt that it could make you stop breating, even if you found you were allergic to it. I don't know about anyone else here, but I personally have never heard of any Ambien related deaths. Unless you have other problems your not expressing here; I think it would take an awful lot of Ambien to be fatal. Your Friend, Mark --- Jerry Pople jmpople@...> wrote: > Hi Terry, > My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took > Ambien I might stop > breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems > pretty ridiculous to me. I'm > 6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock > me out. > > Jerry > ************************ > > Re: Re: Neurontin > > > >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at > ALL. (Even BEFORE she > > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days > at a time with no sleep. > > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Terry, I also was on Remon for depression. I did good ,but the one problem I encountered was the severe increase in appetite. I was eating allot. Also, was eating at naught when I was sleeping. If you have pancreas problem and are ot able to eat there may be a problem, I was on it after I had the pancreatectomy and islet cell transplant. gail SHANNON TUTEN wrote: > Terry: > > I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so > far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether > its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for > short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about. > > > > >From: roguekc@... > >Reply-To: pancreatitis > >To: swetet@..., pancreatitis > >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin > >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT > > > >Not confusing at all, . > > > >I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked > >the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then, > >and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist " > >pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " - > >not > >in my book! > > > >Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin - > >actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the > > " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and > >feet > >as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha. > > > >Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't > >think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed " > >sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder > >she > >couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt, > >either. > > > >Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with > >her, > >haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't > >come > >back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and > >something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > >increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she > >increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep. > >I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > >I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next > >day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with > >Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more > >for > >anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions? > > > >She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me > >that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was > >for > >1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time > >meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to > >serve > >as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect > >this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do > >like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool. > >Never > >once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested > > " upping " > >the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded > >expression and watched the tornado whiz past. > > > >Peace, > >Terry in KC > > > > > > > ><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the > >support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Terry, I also was on Remon for depression. I did good ,but the one problem I encountered was the severe increase in appetite. I was eating allot. Also, was eating at naught when I was sleeping. If you have pancreas problem and are ot able to eat there may be a problem, I was on it after I had the pancreatectomy and islet cell transplant. gail SHANNON TUTEN wrote: > Terry: > > I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so > far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether > its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for > short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about. > > > > >From: roguekc@... > >Reply-To: pancreatitis > >To: swetet@..., pancreatitis > >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin > >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT > > > >Not confusing at all, . > > > >I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked > >the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then, > >and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist " > >pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " - > >not > >in my book! > > > >Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin - > >actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the > > " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and > >feet > >as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha. > > > >Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't > >think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed " > >sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder > >she > >couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt, > >either. > > > >Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with > >her, > >haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't > >come > >back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and > >something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > >increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she > >increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep. > >I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > >I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next > >day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with > >Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more > >for > >anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions? > > > >She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me > >that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was > >for > >1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time > >meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to > >serve > >as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect > >this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do > >like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool. > >Never > >once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested > > " upping " > >the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded > >expression and watched the tornado whiz past. > > > >Peace, > >Terry in KC > > > > > > > ><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the > >support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Terry, I also was on Remon for depression. I did good ,but the one problem I encountered was the severe increase in appetite. I was eating allot. Also, was eating at naught when I was sleeping. If you have pancreas problem and are ot able to eat there may be a problem, I was on it after I had the pancreatectomy and islet cell transplant. gail SHANNON TUTEN wrote: > Terry: > > I use Remeron to help me with my depression and sleep. It works wonders- so > far on the sleep problem. I haven't been on itlong enough to tell whether > its help the depression part. Ambien and Halcion are suppose to only be for > short term use. If you haven't tried it, it might be worth asking about. > > > > >From: roguekc@... > >Reply-To: pancreatitis > >To: swetet@..., pancreatitis > >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin > >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 18:46:59 EDT > > > >Not confusing at all, . > > > >I remember when they gave your daughter Neurontin " for pain " , and you asked > >the list about it... Seems like her experience is much like mine was then, > >and still is... Might help with neurologic function, perhaps even " assist " > >pain meds, but it doesn't even come CLOSE to being called a " pain med " - > >not > >in my book! > > > >Met with my new PM doc today - interestingly, she upped my Neurontin - > >actually doubled it - to 2400 mg/day... She said that will help with the > > " tingling " and " burning " and numbness that I experience in my hands and > >feet > >as a result of diabetic neuropathy. Hopefully it'll work for THAT. Haha. > > > >Made a few other changes as well, hopefully on the right track. She didn't > >think I seemed depressed. Duh. You mean I forgot to put my " depressed " > >sticker on my forehead today before leaving the house?? Wow, no wonder > >she > >couldn't tell. Course, to be fair, I wasn't wearing my " depressed " shirt, > >either. > > > >Among the many questions that I had for her (first time appointment with > >her, > >haven't seen a PM doc for 6 months - I had a few questions!!), we didn't > >come > >back to two of them - the need for additional help with anxiety, and > >something to help me sleep. With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > >increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE she > >increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no sleep. > >I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > >I have a bottle full of Halcyon, but it knocks me out for the entire next > >day, so I don't like taking it - does anybody else have this happen with > >Halcyon?? I think I'd like to go back to Ambian, or maybe something more > >for > >anxiety that might help with sleep. Suggestions? > > > >She was good all-in-all, just way, WAY too overbooked. The nurse told me > >that they triple-book her. That's pretty ridiculous. My appointment was > >for > >1:00 PM. I saw her from 3:45 - 4:05. That was to accomplish a first time > >meeting for a new PM doc as well as a psych eval, as she's supposed to > >serve > >as both for me. Don't think it's going to work quite right if I can expect > >this regularly... Maybe just as a PM doc, but certainly not both. But I do > >like her. She's a good egg. No contracts or anything, that was cool. > >Never > >once treated me like a drug seeker, and she's the one that suggested > > " upping " > >the meds that she DID increase. I just nodded my head with a dumfounded > >expression and watched the tornado whiz past. > > > >Peace, > >Terry in KC > > > > > > > ><< Seems my post to you is just confusing but I hope you at least hear the > >support I am trying to give. Talk to ya soon, >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Jerry: I was pretty sure that the reason not tomix the 2 was due to the fact it can cause resp. depression. I looked it up, you can read for yourself. We have to remember that you have to be VERY CAREFUL with what drugs we mix ( intentionally or not) with narcotics. Zolpidem ( Ambien ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zolpidem ( Ambien ) is a Sleeping pill from a newer group of drugs called imidzopyridines.. Used primarily for short-term treatment of insomnia in adults. Strengths: Tables: 5 mg, 10 mg Dosages: Actual dosage must be determined by a physician. Oral: Start : 5 mg daily at bedtime, increase to 10 mg if needed. Increases : Assess after 10 days, increase as needed. Maintenance : as low as possible in 24 hours. Maximum : 10 mg in 24 hours. Normal dosage: If under 18 years of age, DO NOT USE! 18 to 60 years of age, 10 mg at bedtime. Over 60 years of age, 5 mg at bedtime. ( Increased to 10 mg cautiously. ) Problems with: Liver Function: Reduce dosage by 50%. Kidney Function: Reduce dosage. ( Half life is doubled in chronic kidney compromise ) Take With: Empty stomach and a full glass of water. Full Benefits In: In a few days. Missed Dose(s): If you take this drug at bedtime and miss it do not take in morning. If within one hour take, if over an hour skip and then continue on your normal schedule. Never Take a Double Dose! If Stop Taking: Do not stop without consulting your physician and never abruptly if you have been taking this drug for over 7 days. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warnings Narcotics may increase the sedative effects of this drug. Do not drink alcohol with this drug, it could decrease your breathing rate to the point of unconsciousness or coma. Do not take this drug with any other drug that might slow the central nervous system, like another sedative, benzodiazepine., sleeping pills, monoamine oxidase inhibitor, antipsychotics, anticonvulsants or antihistamines. The habit-forming potential is high. Psychological and physical dependence is possible. Do not stop taking this drug abruptly, this could cause psychological and physical withdrawal symptoms. Do not take this drug if you are pregnant or if planning to become pregnant. Do not take if you are breast-feeding. Do not take this drug if under eighteen and in small doses if over sixty with close monitoring. Do not use if: You had negative reactions to a similar drug in the past. If you have kidney or liver damage. If you have breathing problems or suffer form depression. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zolpidem ( Symptoms or Effects ) Common: Abdominal pain, abnormal dreaming, abnormal vision, amnesia, dry mouth, daytime drowsiness, defective muscular coordination, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, double vision, drugged feelings, euphoria, fatigue, insomnia, lethargy, light headedness, nausea, painful digestion, tenderness/pain in muscles, upper respiratory infection, vertigo, vomiting, headache or confusion. Rare: Abnormal liver function, abnormal secretion/discharge of tears, decrease of white blood cells, abnormal thinking, abscesses, acne, acute kidney failure, aggravated allergies/hypertension, aggression, altered salivation, anaphylactic shock, anemia, boils, belching, breast pain, breast tumors/growths, bronchial spasm, circulatory failure, decreased sex drive, delusions, dementia, decrease of the lymph nodes, disease of the nerves, eye pain, facial swelling, feeling of unreality, feeling strange, fluid in lungs, flushing, frequent urination, glaucoma, gout, heart attack, hemorrhoids, herpes simplex, high cholesterol, hot flashes, hysteria, impotence, increased appetite, illusions, increased lipids in the blood, increased tolerance for the drug, inflammation of a nerve/tendon/vein/artery/external auditory canal/intestines/middle ear/skin/stomach, intestinal blockage, intoxicated feelings, irregular heartbeat, joint disease, laryngitis, leg cramps, low blood pressure, manic reactions, muscle spasms/weakness, neurosis, nosebleeds, oxygen deficiency, general pain, painful/difficult urination, panic attacks, partial paralysis, persistent desire to empty the bowel/bladder, personality disorder, pneumonia, rectal bleeding/pain, restless legs, sciatica, sensation of sparks/flashes of light, sensitivity to light, severe pain along the course of a nerve, shingles, skin discoloration, sleepwalking, spasm of the esophagus, speech impairment, sudden chill with high temperature followed by a sense of heat/profuse perspiration, suicide attempt, temporary loss of consciousness, thirst, tooth decay, ulceration of the cornea, urinary retention, varicose veins, weight loss or yawning. See physician NOW: For any problem listed above! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] [2] Next Page > >Reply-To: pancreatitis >To: pancreatitis > >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:47:38 -0400 > >Hi Terry, >My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took Ambien I might stop >breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. I'm >6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock me out. > >Jerry >************************ > > Re: Re: Neurontin > > > >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE >she > > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no >sleep. > > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Jerry: I was pretty sure that the reason not tomix the 2 was due to the fact it can cause resp. depression. I looked it up, you can read for yourself. We have to remember that you have to be VERY CAREFUL with what drugs we mix ( intentionally or not) with narcotics. Zolpidem ( Ambien ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zolpidem ( Ambien ) is a Sleeping pill from a newer group of drugs called imidzopyridines.. Used primarily for short-term treatment of insomnia in adults. Strengths: Tables: 5 mg, 10 mg Dosages: Actual dosage must be determined by a physician. Oral: Start : 5 mg daily at bedtime, increase to 10 mg if needed. Increases : Assess after 10 days, increase as needed. Maintenance : as low as possible in 24 hours. Maximum : 10 mg in 24 hours. Normal dosage: If under 18 years of age, DO NOT USE! 18 to 60 years of age, 10 mg at bedtime. Over 60 years of age, 5 mg at bedtime. ( Increased to 10 mg cautiously. ) Problems with: Liver Function: Reduce dosage by 50%. Kidney Function: Reduce dosage. ( Half life is doubled in chronic kidney compromise ) Take With: Empty stomach and a full glass of water. Full Benefits In: In a few days. Missed Dose(s): If you take this drug at bedtime and miss it do not take in morning. If within one hour take, if over an hour skip and then continue on your normal schedule. Never Take a Double Dose! If Stop Taking: Do not stop without consulting your physician and never abruptly if you have been taking this drug for over 7 days. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warnings Narcotics may increase the sedative effects of this drug. Do not drink alcohol with this drug, it could decrease your breathing rate to the point of unconsciousness or coma. Do not take this drug with any other drug that might slow the central nervous system, like another sedative, benzodiazepine., sleeping pills, monoamine oxidase inhibitor, antipsychotics, anticonvulsants or antihistamines. The habit-forming potential is high. Psychological and physical dependence is possible. Do not stop taking this drug abruptly, this could cause psychological and physical withdrawal symptoms. Do not take this drug if you are pregnant or if planning to become pregnant. Do not take if you are breast-feeding. Do not take this drug if under eighteen and in small doses if over sixty with close monitoring. Do not use if: You had negative reactions to a similar drug in the past. If you have kidney or liver damage. If you have breathing problems or suffer form depression. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zolpidem ( Symptoms or Effects ) Common: Abdominal pain, abnormal dreaming, abnormal vision, amnesia, dry mouth, daytime drowsiness, defective muscular coordination, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, double vision, drugged feelings, euphoria, fatigue, insomnia, lethargy, light headedness, nausea, painful digestion, tenderness/pain in muscles, upper respiratory infection, vertigo, vomiting, headache or confusion. Rare: Abnormal liver function, abnormal secretion/discharge of tears, decrease of white blood cells, abnormal thinking, abscesses, acne, acute kidney failure, aggravated allergies/hypertension, aggression, altered salivation, anaphylactic shock, anemia, boils, belching, breast pain, breast tumors/growths, bronchial spasm, circulatory failure, decreased sex drive, delusions, dementia, decrease of the lymph nodes, disease of the nerves, eye pain, facial swelling, feeling of unreality, feeling strange, fluid in lungs, flushing, frequent urination, glaucoma, gout, heart attack, hemorrhoids, herpes simplex, high cholesterol, hot flashes, hysteria, impotence, increased appetite, illusions, increased lipids in the blood, increased tolerance for the drug, inflammation of a nerve/tendon/vein/artery/external auditory canal/intestines/middle ear/skin/stomach, intestinal blockage, intoxicated feelings, irregular heartbeat, joint disease, laryngitis, leg cramps, low blood pressure, manic reactions, muscle spasms/weakness, neurosis, nosebleeds, oxygen deficiency, general pain, painful/difficult urination, panic attacks, partial paralysis, persistent desire to empty the bowel/bladder, personality disorder, pneumonia, rectal bleeding/pain, restless legs, sciatica, sensation of sparks/flashes of light, sensitivity to light, severe pain along the course of a nerve, shingles, skin discoloration, sleepwalking, spasm of the esophagus, speech impairment, sudden chill with high temperature followed by a sense of heat/profuse perspiration, suicide attempt, temporary loss of consciousness, thirst, tooth decay, ulceration of the cornea, urinary retention, varicose veins, weight loss or yawning. See physician NOW: For any problem listed above! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] [2] Next Page > >Reply-To: pancreatitis >To: pancreatitis > >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:47:38 -0400 > >Hi Terry, >My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took Ambien I might stop >breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. I'm >6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock me out. > >Jerry >************************ > > Re: Re: Neurontin > > > >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE >she > > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no >sleep. > > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Jerry: I was pretty sure that the reason not tomix the 2 was due to the fact it can cause resp. depression. I looked it up, you can read for yourself. We have to remember that you have to be VERY CAREFUL with what drugs we mix ( intentionally or not) with narcotics. Zolpidem ( Ambien ) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zolpidem ( Ambien ) is a Sleeping pill from a newer group of drugs called imidzopyridines.. Used primarily for short-term treatment of insomnia in adults. Strengths: Tables: 5 mg, 10 mg Dosages: Actual dosage must be determined by a physician. Oral: Start : 5 mg daily at bedtime, increase to 10 mg if needed. Increases : Assess after 10 days, increase as needed. Maintenance : as low as possible in 24 hours. Maximum : 10 mg in 24 hours. Normal dosage: If under 18 years of age, DO NOT USE! 18 to 60 years of age, 10 mg at bedtime. Over 60 years of age, 5 mg at bedtime. ( Increased to 10 mg cautiously. ) Problems with: Liver Function: Reduce dosage by 50%. Kidney Function: Reduce dosage. ( Half life is doubled in chronic kidney compromise ) Take With: Empty stomach and a full glass of water. Full Benefits In: In a few days. Missed Dose(s): If you take this drug at bedtime and miss it do not take in morning. If within one hour take, if over an hour skip and then continue on your normal schedule. Never Take a Double Dose! If Stop Taking: Do not stop without consulting your physician and never abruptly if you have been taking this drug for over 7 days. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warnings Narcotics may increase the sedative effects of this drug. Do not drink alcohol with this drug, it could decrease your breathing rate to the point of unconsciousness or coma. Do not take this drug with any other drug that might slow the central nervous system, like another sedative, benzodiazepine., sleeping pills, monoamine oxidase inhibitor, antipsychotics, anticonvulsants or antihistamines. The habit-forming potential is high. Psychological and physical dependence is possible. Do not stop taking this drug abruptly, this could cause psychological and physical withdrawal symptoms. Do not take this drug if you are pregnant or if planning to become pregnant. Do not take if you are breast-feeding. Do not take this drug if under eighteen and in small doses if over sixty with close monitoring. Do not use if: You had negative reactions to a similar drug in the past. If you have kidney or liver damage. If you have breathing problems or suffer form depression. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zolpidem ( Symptoms or Effects ) Common: Abdominal pain, abnormal dreaming, abnormal vision, amnesia, dry mouth, daytime drowsiness, defective muscular coordination, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, double vision, drugged feelings, euphoria, fatigue, insomnia, lethargy, light headedness, nausea, painful digestion, tenderness/pain in muscles, upper respiratory infection, vertigo, vomiting, headache or confusion. Rare: Abnormal liver function, abnormal secretion/discharge of tears, decrease of white blood cells, abnormal thinking, abscesses, acne, acute kidney failure, aggravated allergies/hypertension, aggression, altered salivation, anaphylactic shock, anemia, boils, belching, breast pain, breast tumors/growths, bronchial spasm, circulatory failure, decreased sex drive, delusions, dementia, decrease of the lymph nodes, disease of the nerves, eye pain, facial swelling, feeling of unreality, feeling strange, fluid in lungs, flushing, frequent urination, glaucoma, gout, heart attack, hemorrhoids, herpes simplex, high cholesterol, hot flashes, hysteria, impotence, increased appetite, illusions, increased lipids in the blood, increased tolerance for the drug, inflammation of a nerve/tendon/vein/artery/external auditory canal/intestines/middle ear/skin/stomach, intestinal blockage, intoxicated feelings, irregular heartbeat, joint disease, laryngitis, leg cramps, low blood pressure, manic reactions, muscle spasms/weakness, neurosis, nosebleeds, oxygen deficiency, general pain, painful/difficult urination, panic attacks, partial paralysis, persistent desire to empty the bowel/bladder, personality disorder, pneumonia, rectal bleeding/pain, restless legs, sciatica, sensation of sparks/flashes of light, sensitivity to light, severe pain along the course of a nerve, shingles, skin discoloration, sleepwalking, spasm of the esophagus, speech impairment, sudden chill with high temperature followed by a sense of heat/profuse perspiration, suicide attempt, temporary loss of consciousness, thirst, tooth decay, ulceration of the cornea, urinary retention, varicose veins, weight loss or yawning. See physician NOW: For any problem listed above! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] [2] Next Page > >Reply-To: pancreatitis >To: pancreatitis > >Subject: Re: Re: Neurontin >Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 19:47:38 -0400 > >Hi Terry, >My doc told me that he was afraid that if I took Ambien I might stop >breathing. I also take 60mg of MSContin. Seems pretty ridiculous to me. I'm >6'3 " and 260 lbs. Takes a lot of anything to knock me out. > >Jerry >************************ > > Re: Re: Neurontin > > > >With the Methadone that I'm on (which she > > increased to 15 mg 3 x daily), I'm not sleeping at ALL. (Even BEFORE >she > > increased it 50%!!) Literally, four or five days at a time with no >sleep. > > I'm pretty sure that's not a good thing. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 Birget, I was on neurontin, but my doc took me off of it because it caused me to gain weight, about 20lbs. that I couldn't loose. It did however help with the pain, my doc now has me on Gabitril to help with the pain and it seems to be helping with the pain. I hope this helps. Take Care, Louie in WV Neurontin > > > Hello everybody, > I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly feedings,in order > to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and my doctor > is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for painrelief?Is it > helpful? and what dosage are you taking? > Please let me know > Birgit > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > Online e-mail group > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 Neurontin is an anti-seizure medicine that has been found to be real useful when used in conjunction with pain meds but be sure your doc watches your liver enzymes very closely. I was on it for a month but had to stop because of the sedation...it seems that since I'm on oxycontin 20 mg 2-3 Xper day I am real sensitive to sedating meds. Almost everyone I know gains weight on it which in your case may be well...the dose ranges from 100 mg 3xdaily to 300mg 3xday...in much rarer cases it can affect your white and red blood cells and platlets so a CBC every few months is not a bad idea Neurontin > > > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > I am still having a jejunostomy feedingtube with nightly feedings,in order > > to rest the pancreas.i n spite I am having a lot of daily pain and my > doctor > > is trying me now on neurontin. Is anybody on neurontin for painrelief?Is > it > > helpful? and what dosage are you taking? > > Please let me know > > Birgit > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > > Online e-mail group > > > > To reply to this message hit " reply " or send an e-mail to: > Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > > > To subscribe to this e-mail group, simply send an e-mail to: > Pancreatitis-subscribe (AT) Yahoo > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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