Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 hi, I used esential oils from Young Living to chelate the metals out. Let me know if you want to know more. Nella Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: Another older post for Marilyn.... >>>I have better luck with homeopathics than IV chelation. The ones I have had are full of persevatives and chemicals and have had worse reactions with the IV, than the heavy metals. j4dcj cd,scd 6 months<<< __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Did this work and how did you know? Did you do a fecal test or did you just look for behavioral changes? Mom to Tyler, SCD 8 months chelation hi, I used esential oils from Young Living to chelate the metals out. Let me know if you want to know more. Nella Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: Another older post for Marilyn.... >>>I have better luck with homeopathics than IV chelation. The ones I have had are full of persevatives and chemicals and have had worse reactions with the IV, than the heavy metals. j4dcj cd,scd 6 months<<< __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 I did not test. In the study people where tested many times. In some cases levels in stool or/and urine would go up at first, sometimes from zero. Than they would go though a curve and back to zero. I was doing more than one thing with essential oils almost at the same time, unfortunately I can not be sure where the improvement came from. I am using oils with for a year, we did not need any allergy or cold meds since than. That is big for me. His language and behaviors improved dramatically in about two weeks, than the improvement kind of slowed down. Nella Brown julie_brown@...> wrote: Did this work and how did you know? Did you do a fecal test or did you just look for behavioral changes? Mom to Tyler, SCD 8 months chelation hi, I used esential oils from Young Living to chelate the metals out. Let me know if you want to know more. Nella Gertrude Snicklegrove hunterdrake2001@...> wrote: Another older post for Marilyn.... >>>I have better luck with homeopathics than IV chelation. The ones I have had are full of persevatives and chemicals and have had worse reactions with the IV, than the heavy metals. j4dcj cd,scd 6 months<<< __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Hey , Thanks for the info and the honesty. Would 100%DV of zinc and selenium be enough to do all that you say below? And about how much msm? It's for a 5 year old. Thanks. tte > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: chelation >Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:29:28 -0000 > > >theres lots of claims with chelation and you have to be very sceptical > >the idea that you just take something and mercury or lead is magically >removed from the body is not true and the chelation boards ban people >like me who point out the truer side of the coin > >that said i don't think diet is enough > >the basic rules are zinc displaces heavy metals, selenium passivates >them and msm lifts them > >you can sort mix and match as per my compendium and diet to get an >effective chelation > >these so called chelators like ala, dmsa, dmps are really an idea more >than something that works but if you watch the autism mercury message >board for a year or two and see how the progress goes forwards and then >backwards you will get the picture > > > > > > hi > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just using > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid itself > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and brin? > > > > thx > > > > emma > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following >websites: >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >and >http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 it needs to be the right form of zinc and balanced with co factor minerals, selenium is one i have a dual selenium protocol which in my web page 'minerals i take' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 once on the 'minerals i take' page, just scroll down to SELENIUM PROTOCOL also 'minerals i take' and 'copper and zinc' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 and msm is in 'other supps i take' doses are based on weight like half the weight is half the dose whe you look at it its all a bit much so you just start with what seems like the most important. its like scd, might take a year to get up to speed but the real test of something working is slow steady improvement without end the thing is just to start in a small way and not be overwhelmed > > > hi > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just using > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid itself > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and brin? > > > > > > thx > > > > > > emma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Awesome. Thanks. Do you still do SCD by the way? We stopped after a year and started enzymes. I like enzymes better. > >Reply-To: pecanbread >To: pecanbread >Subject: Re: chelation >Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:05:45 -0000 > > > >it needs to be the right form of zinc and balanced with co factor >minerals, selenium is one > >i have a dual selenium protocol which in my web page 'minerals i >take' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 >once on the 'minerals i take' page, just scroll down to SELENIUM >PROTOCOL > >also > >'minerals i take' and 'copper and zinc' in the index of >http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 > >and msm is in 'other supps i take' > >doses are based on weight like half the weight is half the dose > >whe you look at it its all a bit much so you just start with what >seems like the most important. > >its like scd, might take a year to get up to speed but the real test >of something working is slow steady improvement without end > >the thing is just to start in a small way and not be overwhelmed > > > > > > > > > > hi > > > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just >using > > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid >itself > > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and >brin? > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > emma > > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following >websites: >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info >and >http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 well basically i do scd yeah no nuts and honey though and fairly heavily into quality dairy creams (with fish oil to balance) even with enzymes, potato and grains are still an issue, enzymes are nothing like 100% effective, just a big assist. you are just working things from different sides to get the best gains and scd should be part of your thinking, food additives, endless learning and optimising i guess.............. this is a bit hard to understand but i have flagged hope and expectation, that is i have given up on the prospects of any improvement so i just plug away not expecting improvement and work and experiment with supps, diet etc and if something turns up, well thats a help and if it doesn't well things are hard to tell without trying them so their no quick fixes or miracles llike 'chelation' or DAN or whatever thats the first step, no nice life of ease to go back to when everything is fixed cause there is no 'everything is fixed' and once you see it, its obvious that there never was any such thing........ you are locked into a farely gruelling lifelong process (lol, have i lost my audience?) you just plug away in ways that seem likely to yield well and hopefully gains will make things better for you and your kid and that just goes on and on............. i think you have some brain blood sugar issues it would be worth giving some attention too from a supplement and dietary viewpoint. > > > > > hi > > > > > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just > >using > > > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid > >itself > > > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and > >brin? > > > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > > > emma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > >websites: > >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > >and > >http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 well basically i do scd yeah no nuts and honey though and fairly heavily into quality dairy creams (with fish oil to balance) even with enzymes, potato and grains are still an issue, enzymes are nothing like 100% effective, just a big assist. you are just working things from different sides to get the best gains and scd should be part of your thinking, food additives, endless learning and optimising i guess.............. this is a bit hard to understand but i have flagged hope and expectation, that is i have given up on the prospects of any improvement so i just plug away not expecting improvement and work and experiment with supps, diet etc and if something turns up, well thats a help and if it doesn't well things are hard to tell without trying them so their no quick fixes or miracles llike 'chelation' or DAN or whatever thats the first step, no nice life of ease to go back to when everything is fixed cause there is no 'everything is fixed' and once you see it, its obvious that there never was any such thing........ you are locked into a farely gruelling lifelong process (lol, have i lost my audience?) you just plug away in ways that seem likely to yield well and hopefully gains will make things better for you and your kid and that just goes on and on............. i think you have some brain blood sugar issues it would be worth giving some attention too from a supplement and dietary viewpoint. > > > > > hi > > > > > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just > >using > > > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid > >itself > > > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and > >brin? > > > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > > > emma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > >websites: > >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > >and > >http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 well basically i do scd yeah no nuts and honey though and fairly heavily into quality dairy creams (with fish oil to balance) even with enzymes, potato and grains are still an issue, enzymes are nothing like 100% effective, just a big assist. you are just working things from different sides to get the best gains and scd should be part of your thinking, food additives, endless learning and optimising i guess.............. this is a bit hard to understand but i have flagged hope and expectation, that is i have given up on the prospects of any improvement so i just plug away not expecting improvement and work and experiment with supps, diet etc and if something turns up, well thats a help and if it doesn't well things are hard to tell without trying them so their no quick fixes or miracles llike 'chelation' or DAN or whatever thats the first step, no nice life of ease to go back to when everything is fixed cause there is no 'everything is fixed' and once you see it, its obvious that there never was any such thing........ you are locked into a farely gruelling lifelong process (lol, have i lost my audience?) you just plug away in ways that seem likely to yield well and hopefully gains will make things better for you and your kid and that just goes on and on............. i think you have some brain blood sugar issues it would be worth giving some attention too from a supplement and dietary viewpoint. > > > > > hi > > > > > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just > >using > > > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid > >itself > > > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and > >brin? > > > > > > > > > > thx > > > > > > > > > > emma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > >_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > >websites: > >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > >and > >http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 thx andrew where do you get your msm from? andrew alevin@...> wrote: it needs to be the right form of zinc and balanced with co factor minerals, selenium is one i have a dual selenium protocol which in my web page 'minerals i take' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 once on the 'minerals i take' page, just scroll down to SELENIUM PROTOCOL also 'minerals i take' and 'copper and zinc' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 and msm is in 'other supps i take' doses are based on weight like half the weight is half the dose whe you look at it its all a bit much so you just start with what seems like the most important. its like scd, might take a year to get up to speed but the real test of something working is slow steady improvement without end the thing is just to start in a small way and not be overwhelmed > > > hi > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just using > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid itself > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and brin? > > > > > > thx > > > > > > emma > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 thx andrew where do you get your msm from? andrew alevin@...> wrote: it needs to be the right form of zinc and balanced with co factor minerals, selenium is one i have a dual selenium protocol which in my web page 'minerals i take' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 once on the 'minerals i take' page, just scroll down to SELENIUM PROTOCOL also 'minerals i take' and 'copper and zinc' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 and msm is in 'other supps i take' doses are based on weight like half the weight is half the dose whe you look at it its all a bit much so you just start with what seems like the most important. its like scd, might take a year to get up to speed but the real test of something working is slow steady improvement without end the thing is just to start in a small way and not be overwhelmed > > > hi > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just using > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid itself > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and brin? > > > > > > thx > > > > > > emma > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 thx andrew where do you get your msm from? andrew alevin@...> wrote: it needs to be the right form of zinc and balanced with co factor minerals, selenium is one i have a dual selenium protocol which in my web page 'minerals i take' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 once on the 'minerals i take' page, just scroll down to SELENIUM PROTOCOL also 'minerals i take' and 'copper and zinc' in the index of http://tinyurl.com/2csa3 and msm is in 'other supps i take' doses are based on weight like half the weight is half the dose whe you look at it its all a bit much so you just start with what seems like the most important. its like scd, might take a year to get up to speed but the real test of something working is slow steady improvement without end the thing is just to start in a small way and not be overwhelmed > > > hi > > > > > > just wondered, i recall recent posts on chelation through just using > > > the scd. If a person 'becomes' healthy, can a persons body rid itself > > > of mercury etc that has attached itself to their organs and brin? > > > > > > thx > > > > > > emma > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 i use the trimedica pure msm brand which is 'lignisul' as the source manufacturer from betterlife.com or evitamins.com a little goes a long way but if you have amalgmas in it may not be advisable to take it as it lifts mercury but a tiny bit may be ok, don't know, the stuff i have worked out is for an amalgam free mouth it does tend to be a bit laxative the trimedica brand is the only lignisul msm i can find without fillers elaine has a niether legal or illegal position on msm, it is ambiguous and you are lifting mercury and sulphur loving heavy metals with it so you don't want to be casual about it > thx andrew > > where do you get your msm from? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 i use the trimedica pure msm brand which is 'lignisul' as the source manufacturer from betterlife.com or evitamins.com a little goes a long way but if you have amalgmas in it may not be advisable to take it as it lifts mercury but a tiny bit may be ok, don't know, the stuff i have worked out is for an amalgam free mouth it does tend to be a bit laxative the trimedica brand is the only lignisul msm i can find without fillers elaine has a niether legal or illegal position on msm, it is ambiguous and you are lifting mercury and sulphur loving heavy metals with it so you don't want to be casual about it > thx andrew > > where do you get your msm from? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 i use the trimedica pure msm brand which is 'lignisul' as the source manufacturer from betterlife.com or evitamins.com a little goes a long way but if you have amalgmas in it may not be advisable to take it as it lifts mercury but a tiny bit may be ok, don't know, the stuff i have worked out is for an amalgam free mouth it does tend to be a bit laxative the trimedica brand is the only lignisul msm i can find without fillers elaine has a niether legal or illegal position on msm, it is ambiguous and you are lifting mercury and sulphur loving heavy metals with it so you don't want to be casual about it > thx andrew > > where do you get your msm from? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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