Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 > > so cheese: > what sort ie mature? and when is it okay to be introduced? bearing in mind where we are at the moment > > thanks for your help > > emma Page 180 of BTVC (edition 10) lists legal and illegal cheeses. The cheeses listed in italics are the ones that are easier to tolerate as a rule. It used to be we were only allowed cheese that had been ripened for sixty days or more but it was dropped to thirty. The significent point is that the bacterial culture used in cheesmaking has digested most of the lactose (milk sugar) in the cheese after 30 days. I digest the Swiss, Emmenthal and Jarslberg cheeses best. Cheddar is highest in fat as a rule and sometimes I have a little trouble with it. But most SCD-ers do well with cheddar. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 > > so cheese: > what sort ie mature? and when is it okay to be introduced? bearing in mind where we are at the moment > > thanks for your help > > emma Page 180 of BTVC (edition 10) lists legal and illegal cheeses. The cheeses listed in italics are the ones that are easier to tolerate as a rule. It used to be we were only allowed cheese that had been ripened for sixty days or more but it was dropped to thirty. The significent point is that the bacterial culture used in cheesmaking has digested most of the lactose (milk sugar) in the cheese after 30 days. I digest the Swiss, Emmenthal and Jarslberg cheeses best. Cheddar is highest in fat as a rule and sometimes I have a little trouble with it. But most SCD-ers do well with cheddar. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 > > so cheese: > what sort ie mature? and when is it okay to be introduced? bearing in mind where we are at the moment > > thanks for your help > > emma Page 180 of BTVC (edition 10) lists legal and illegal cheeses. The cheeses listed in italics are the ones that are easier to tolerate as a rule. It used to be we were only allowed cheese that had been ripened for sixty days or more but it was dropped to thirty. The significent point is that the bacterial culture used in cheesmaking has digested most of the lactose (milk sugar) in the cheese after 30 days. I digest the Swiss, Emmenthal and Jarslberg cheeses best. Cheddar is highest in fat as a rule and sometimes I have a little trouble with it. But most SCD-ers do well with cheddar. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 > thank you > i have just bought plain mature cheddar - organic can i just ask, is it okay to introduce at any time or do i have to wait a w hile longer > > thank you Emma, how long have you been on SCD (or is this for your child?) Have you completed the introductory diet? What other foods are you eating? Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 > thank you > i have just bought plain mature cheddar - organic can i just ask, is it okay to introduce at any time or do i have to wait a w hile longer > > thank you Emma, how long have you been on SCD (or is this for your child?) Have you completed the introductory diet? What other foods are you eating? Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 > kai and fian have actually been on scd since april and we are now eating > > eggs; all meats; parma ham; carrots, butternut squash, green beans; zuchinni, avocado; cooked apples and pears, cows milk fermented yogurt, hopefully moving up and onto bananas combined with yogurt as the high sugars on too regular a basis can cause d in both boys. > That's a nice variety! If they are tolerating yogurt try a tiny bit of Cheddar cheese. Cheese can be constipating but I don't think a taste will add to the problem significantly. Watch for any reactions like a rash etc. It's interesting to note that some people do well with yogurt but not with cheese and for others it is just the opposite. Good luck with the ripe bananas. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 yes constipation is an issue, and im kind of frustrated that we have to use the paraffin at all, but they are only constipated because of die off not because og any of the foods so i guess i can handle that as its for amore positive reason - i know at some point there will come a time when we no longer need the paraffin just dont think thats anytime soon what do you mean some do well with yogurt not with cheese and vice versa - that sounds intriguing? thanks emma carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote: > kai and fian have actually been on scd since april and we are now eating > > eggs; all meats; parma ham; carrots, butternut squash, green beans; zuchinni, avocado; cooked apples and pears, cows milk fermented yogurt, hopefully moving up and onto bananas combined with yogurt as the high sugars on too regular a basis can cause d in both boys. > That's a nice variety! If they are tolerating yogurt try a tiny bit of Cheddar cheese. Cheese can be constipating but I don't think a taste will add to the problem significantly. Watch for any reactions like a rash etc. It's interesting to note that some people do well with yogurt but not with cheese and for others it is just the opposite. Good luck with the ripe bananas. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 > I thought yeast die-off caused D not constipation>? Someone help me here. > Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months > Re: Re: cheddar cheese > > > > yes constipation is an issue, and im kind of frustrated that we have to > use the paraffin at all, but they are only constipated because of die off > not because og any of the foods so i guess i can handle that as its for > amore positive reason - i know at some point there will come a time when we > no longer need the paraffin just dont think thats anytime soon > > > > what do you mean some do well with yogurt not with cheese and vice versa - > that sounds intriguing? We were discussing recipes with the cooking team doing an SCD course in january. My teamate siad she coulkd tolerate lots of yogurt but could not use cheese. i told her it was the opposite with me. However, I used to tolerate it and will try again soon, staring with tiny amounts. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I thought yeast die-off caused D not constipation>? Someone help me here. Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months Re: Re: cheddar cheese > yes constipation is an issue, and im kind of frustrated that we have to use the paraffin at all, but they are only constipated because of die off not because og any of the foods so i guess i can handle that as its for amore positive reason - i know at some point there will come a time when we no longer need the paraffin just dont think thats anytime soon > > what do you mean some do well with yogurt not with cheese and vice versa - that sounds intriguing? > > thanks > > emma > > carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote: > > > kai and fian have actually been on scd since april > and we are now eating > > > > eggs; all meats; parma ham; carrots, butternut squash, green beans; zuchinni, avocado; > cooked apples and pears, cows milk fermented yogurt, hopefully moving up and onto > bananas combined with yogurt as the high sugars on too regular a basis can cause d in > both boys. > > > > That's a nice variety! If they are tolerating yogurt try a tiny bit of Cheddar cheese. Cheese > can be constipating but I don't think a taste will add to the problem significantly. Watch for > any reactions like a rash etc. > > It's interesting to note that some people do well with yogurt but not with cheese and for > others it is just the opposite. > > Good luck with the ripe bananas. > > Carol F. > SCD 5 years, celiac > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 hi it can actually cause both in kai its constipation in fian its d but after having yogurt the die off worsens kais c and causes c in fian hth emma carolfrilegh c.frilegh@...> wrote: > I thought yeast die-off caused D not constipation>? Someone help me here. > Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months > Re: Re: cheddar cheese > > > > yes constipation is an issue, and im kind of frustrated that we have to > use the paraffin at all, but they are only constipated because of die off > not because og any of the foods so i guess i can handle that as its for > amore positive reason - i know at some point there will come a time when we > no longer need the paraffin just dont think thats anytime soon > > > > what do you mean some do well with yogurt not with cheese and vice versa - > that sounds intriguing? We were discussing recipes with the cooking team doing an SCD course in january. My teamate siad she coulkd tolerate lots of yogurt but could not use cheese. i told her it was the opposite with me. However, I used to tolerate it and will try again soon, staring with tiny amounts. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hi Carol, The Calcium chloride should be legal, but if you are reacting to it you shouldn't use it. Sheila > This is in the cheddar cheese I am reacting to. legal or illegal? > > calcium chloride   > > Related: Chemical Compounds > > CaCl 2 , chemical compound that is crystalline, lumpy, or flaky, is > usually white, and is very soluble in water. The anhydrous compound is > hygroscopic; it rapidly absorbs water and is used to dry gases by > passing them through it. Calcium chloride is commercially available > usually as the dihydrate, CaCl 2 ·2H 2 O; it is used to melt ice on > roads, to control dust, in brines for refrigeration, and as a > preservative in foods. It is also used in the monohydrate and > hexahydrate forms. Calcium chloride is a byproduct of the Solvay > process (a major source of the compound) and is present in natural > brines. > > Carol F. > SCD 5 years, celiac > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 I solved the mystery of my reaction to old Cheddar cheese. It states in the Grain-Free Gourmet cookbook that there is a bacterial culture used in old Cheddar that can cause a reaction. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 > > I solved the mystery of my reaction to old Cheddar cheese. It states in > the Grain-Free Gourmet cookbook that there is a bacterial culture used > in old Cheddar that can cause a reaction. > > Carol F. > SCD 5 years, celiac > Hi Carol, Does it say which one? Our house is dairy-free (but I'm not, lol). I had noticed in the last several months that if/when I eat cheese when out, it does not seem to agree with me. Was wondering if it was b/c I was not consuming it so often or if something else was going on. -christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 > > > > I solved the mystery of my reaction to old Cheddar cheese. It > states in > > the Grain-Free Gourmet cookbook that there is a bacterial culture > used > > in old Cheddar that can cause a reaction. > > > > Carol F. > > SCD 5 years, celiac > > > > > > > Hi Carol, > > Does it say which one? Our house is dairy-free (but I'm not, > lol). I had noticed in the last several months that if/when I eat > cheese when out, it does not seem to agree with me. > Was wondering if it was b/c I was not consuming it so often or if > something else was going on. > -christine , It doesn't specify. I do so well with Swiss, Havarti, Bleu, occasional Brie, goat or cow type but with the old Cheddar my right shin and foot starts to itch, my ears feel funny and my nose gets stuffy and I never figured it out and was so grateful to find the explanation. Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Carol, See http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/aged_cheese.h tm Sheila > > I solved the mystery of my reaction to old Cheddar cheese. It states in > the Grain-Free Gourmet cookbook that there is a bacterial culture used > in old Cheddar that can cause a reaction. > > Carol F. > SCD 5 years, celiac > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Carol, See http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/aged_cheese.h tm Sheila > > I solved the mystery of my reaction to old Cheddar cheese. It states in > the Grain-Free Gourmet cookbook that there is a bacterial culture used > in old Cheddar that can cause a reaction. > > Carol F. > SCD 5 years, celiac > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Carol, See http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/aged_cheese.h tm Sheila > > I solved the mystery of my reaction to old Cheddar cheese. It states in > the Grain-Free Gourmet cookbook that there is a bacterial culture used > in old Cheddar that can cause a reaction. > > Carol F. > SCD 5 years, celiac > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 > > Carol, > > See > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/aged_cheese.h > tm > > Sheila > > > > > I solved the mystery of my reaction to old Cheddar cheese. It states > in > > the Grain-Free Gourmet cookbook that there is a bacterial culture > used > > in old Cheddar that can cause a reaction. > > Elaine said: " During the aging process (especially very old cheddar) certain chemicals are produced which could bother a person with a compromised immune system. I think if you go to a search engine, you may be able to get on the subject of aged cheddar and determine what the chemicals are that develop to give aged cheese its sharp taste. These chemicals might affect a sick person in a negative manner. " The links don't work all the time so I went to the site and keyed in " aged Cheddar. " BTW: I happen to be a person with a highly compromised immune system, so 'the shoe fits. " Carol F. SCD 5 years, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Hi , > Does it say which one? Our house is dairy-free (but I'm not, > lol). I had noticed in the last several months that if/when I eat > cheese when out, it does not seem to agree with me. It may depend on what kind of cheese you are eating. If you mean in a restaurant you could could be getting preshredded cheese which may have illegal free flow agents added - starch etc. Also, if you are using one of the " occasional cheeses " (listed in the appendix of BTVC) you may not be tolerating it. Sheila, SCD 56 mos, 21 yrs UC mom of , SCD 41 mos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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