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> I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

>

> does this mean? Are there little ways to cheat and still see

> benefits? We are getting pretty desperate with our 3 year old who

> is

> surviving on peanut butter and now some gluten free hot dogs that

> seem

> to be legal. He will also drink a little apple cider and eat some

> frozen blueberries.

>

> He refuses all foods made with almond flour. I made mock sugar

> cookies this morning and he took one bite, made a face, and spit it

> out. He refused red lentils today (usually likes bean-type things).

>

> He won't eat yogurt.

>

> Yesterday my husband asked him what he wanted Santa to bring him and

>

> he replied " A packet of fruit snacks. " It's really breaking my

Good luck. We've had our issues too, though circumstances are different.

While this group advocates preparing as much from scratch as possible,

you may want to try some prepared foods for the package appeal. Stretch

Island and Trader Joe's have a variety of fruit leathers that according

to the label are legal. Packaged raisins and other dried fruit might be

an idea too. Have you checked out websites like Digestive Wellness and...

I can't remember the name, something Gourmet? You can order from them

-especially the latter, I understand - without worry as everything is

totally legal.

Take care, Fay

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Hi :),

Fruit Snacks... Joe's favorite mock fruit snack is what we fondly

call " Joe Jello " . It's the recipe from Knox Gelatin® for " Knox

Blox " . Here's how we parsed it down for smaller batches :).

2 envelopes Knox® Gelatin

1/2 c cold fruit juice (we use the Welch's 100% no sugar added White

Grape Juice)

1-1/2 c fruit juice heated to boiling

1. Pour 1/2 c cold fruit juice into a 4x4 " sealable plastic

container (shallow ones work best for cutting afterwards)

2. Sprinkle powdered gelatin over cold juice and let sit for 1

minute.

3. Add hot juice and stir until gelatin is dissolved.

4. Refrigerate until firm (about 3 hours); slice into small cubes

about the size of fruit snacks :).

.... I've been dying to try a veggie juice of some kind, but haven't

made carrot juice yet, not sure how that will taste in a veggie cube

form :).

Good luck :)...

As always,

Carol

>

> I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD.

What

> does this mean? Are there little ways to cheat and still see

> benefits? We are getting pretty desperate with our 3 year old who

is

> surviving on peanut butter and now some gluten free hot dogs that

seem

> to be legal. He will also drink a little apple cider and eat some

> frozen blueberries.

>

> He refuses all foods made with almond flour. I made mock sugar

> cookies this morning and he took one bite, made a face, and spit

it

> out. He refused red lentils today (usually likes bean-type

things).

> He won't eat yogurt.

>

> Yesterday my husband asked him what he wanted Santa to bring him

and

> he replied " A packet of fruit snacks. " It's really breaking my

> heart!

>

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> ... I've been dying to try a veggie juice of some kind, but haven't

> made carrot juice yet, not sure how that will taste in a veggie cube

> form :).

>

> Good luck :)...

>

> As always,

> Carol

I often make jelled tomato juice with diced vegetables in it in a mold.

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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> ... I've been dying to try a veggie juice of some kind, but haven't

> made carrot juice yet, not sure how that will taste in a veggie cube

> form :).

>

> Good luck :)...

>

> As always,

> Carol

I often make jelled tomato juice with diced vegetables in it in a mold.

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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> ... I've been dying to try a veggie juice of some kind, but haven't

> made carrot juice yet, not sure how that will taste in a veggie cube

> form :).

>

> Good luck :)...

>

> As always,

> Carol

I often make jelled tomato juice with diced vegetables in it in a mold.

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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> I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> does this mean?

It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small exceptions

can

cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they think

best but

must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD, using

some of

the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

" It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in chapter

10, The

Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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> I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> does this mean?

It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small exceptions

can

cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they think

best but

must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD, using

some of

the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

" It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in chapter

10, The

Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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> I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> does this mean?

It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small exceptions

can

cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they think

best but

must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD, using

some of

the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

" It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in chapter

10, The

Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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> >

> > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > does this mean?

>

> It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small exceptions

can

> cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they

think best

but

> must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD, using

some of

> the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

>

> I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

>

> " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

chapter 10, The

> Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

>

> Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

>

In rereading my own post above I realize that i did not take into consideration

that some

people are doing the best they can with severe limitations and if they cannot

comply 100%

They are at least clinging to the plan in hopes that they will be able to get

entirely legal.

This not the same as those that make up their own version which incorporates

some SCD

rules with their own decisions to retain, corn or soy or grain or whatever.

( I do apologize if I sounded like the worst teacher your child ever had.)

Having been here a while I have seen moms that combined or altered SCD have some

very

bad long term results. They usually returned to SCD and tried again, being more

strict and

doing better the second time.

It happens often that when people transition from other diets they opt to do it

gradually

instead of cold turkey. Some people have conditions that make it necessary to

approach

SCD gradually. Best results still come from full compliance and one hopes and

supposes

that is the ultimate goal.

This all reminds me that when i started there was a veteran member who advocated

strictness and gave severe scoldings to those who were new and making mistakes.

I found

it hurtful and discouraging and would not want to come across that way.

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

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> > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > does this mean?

>

> It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small exceptions

can

> cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they

think best

but

> must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD, using

some of

> the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

>

> I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

>

> " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

chapter 10, The

> Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

>

> Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

>

In rereading my own post above I realize that i did not take into consideration

that some

people are doing the best they can with severe limitations and if they cannot

comply 100%

They are at least clinging to the plan in hopes that they will be able to get

entirely legal.

This not the same as those that make up their own version which incorporates

some SCD

rules with their own decisions to retain, corn or soy or grain or whatever.

( I do apologize if I sounded like the worst teacher your child ever had.)

Having been here a while I have seen moms that combined or altered SCD have some

very

bad long term results. They usually returned to SCD and tried again, being more

strict and

doing better the second time.

It happens often that when people transition from other diets they opt to do it

gradually

instead of cold turkey. Some people have conditions that make it necessary to

approach

SCD gradually. Best results still come from full compliance and one hopes and

supposes

that is the ultimate goal.

This all reminds me that when i started there was a veteran member who advocated

strictness and gave severe scoldings to those who were new and making mistakes.

I found

it hurtful and discouraging and would not want to come across that way.

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

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> > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > does this mean?

>

> It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small exceptions

can

> cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they

think best

but

> must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD, using

some of

> the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

>

> I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

>

> " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

chapter 10, The

> Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

>

> Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

>

In rereading my own post above I realize that i did not take into consideration

that some

people are doing the best they can with severe limitations and if they cannot

comply 100%

They are at least clinging to the plan in hopes that they will be able to get

entirely legal.

This not the same as those that make up their own version which incorporates

some SCD

rules with their own decisions to retain, corn or soy or grain or whatever.

( I do apologize if I sounded like the worst teacher your child ever had.)

Having been here a while I have seen moms that combined or altered SCD have some

very

bad long term results. They usually returned to SCD and tried again, being more

strict and

doing better the second time.

It happens often that when people transition from other diets they opt to do it

gradually

instead of cold turkey. Some people have conditions that make it necessary to

approach

SCD gradually. Best results still come from full compliance and one hopes and

supposes

that is the ultimate goal.

This all reminds me that when i started there was a veteran member who advocated

strictness and gave severe scoldings to those who were new and making mistakes.

I found

it hurtful and discouraging and would not want to come across that way.

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

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When youi juice your carrots add a little parsley. It adds yummy to the

flavor!!Jenn & Kali 95% scd 6 months

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>

> >

> > ... I've been dying to try a veggie juice of some kind, but haven't

> > made carrot juice yet, not sure how that will taste in a veggie cube

> > form :).

> >

> > Good luck :)...

> >

> > As always,

> > Carol

>

> I often make jelled tomato juice with diced vegetables in it in a mold.

>

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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When youi juice your carrots add a little parsley. It adds yummy to the

flavor!!Jenn & Kali 95% scd 6 months

Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

> >

> > ... I've been dying to try a veggie juice of some kind, but haven't

> > made carrot juice yet, not sure how that will taste in a veggie cube

> > form :).

> >

> > Good luck :)...

> >

> > As always,

> > Carol

>

> I often make jelled tomato juice with diced vegetables in it in a mold.

>

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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When youi juice your carrots add a little parsley. It adds yummy to the

flavor!!Jenn & Kali 95% scd 6 months

Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

> >

> > ... I've been dying to try a veggie juice of some kind, but haven't

> > made carrot juice yet, not sure how that will taste in a veggie cube

> > form :).

> >

> > Good luck :)...

> >

> > As always,

> > Carol

>

> I often make jelled tomato juice with diced vegetables in it in a mold.

>

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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You're right Carol F. Kali could not start out the right way and she

sometimes steals food from classmates (the teacher is aware and not allowing

this to happen if she can help it)and her dad still takes her to get those

nuggets from Mcs once a week:(. He says that is her cheat. He feels so

bad for her. Even though he understands why we are on this diet. He also

must eat the scd foods and I'm sure he cheats himself at work or when I'm

not around. It is such a slow process to heal and he can't help giving in. I

do wonder how she would be if he didn't give those to her but, this has been

a fight from her daddy. I fight with him constantly to eat nutritiously

himself. I don't think we have earned the 100% yet and that's why I post

95%. Kali has made an extreme amt. of progress on this diet. I will continue

to be as strict with her as I am. Hoping only for things to get better.

Should I just stop posting messages altogether or questions and find another

place to go for help? I don't want to mess anyone else up. Thanks. Jenn &

Kali 95% scd 6 months Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

> >

> > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > does this mean?

>

> It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small

exceptions can

> cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they

think best but

> must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD,

using some of

> the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

>

> I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

>

> " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

chapter 10, The

> Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

>

> Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

>

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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You're right Carol F. Kali could not start out the right way and she

sometimes steals food from classmates (the teacher is aware and not allowing

this to happen if she can help it)and her dad still takes her to get those

nuggets from Mcs once a week:(. He says that is her cheat. He feels so

bad for her. Even though he understands why we are on this diet. He also

must eat the scd foods and I'm sure he cheats himself at work or when I'm

not around. It is such a slow process to heal and he can't help giving in. I

do wonder how she would be if he didn't give those to her but, this has been

a fight from her daddy. I fight with him constantly to eat nutritiously

himself. I don't think we have earned the 100% yet and that's why I post

95%. Kali has made an extreme amt. of progress on this diet. I will continue

to be as strict with her as I am. Hoping only for things to get better.

Should I just stop posting messages altogether or questions and find another

place to go for help? I don't want to mess anyone else up. Thanks. Jenn &

Kali 95% scd 6 months Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

> >

> > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > does this mean?

>

> It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small

exceptions can

> cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they

think best but

> must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD,

using some of

> the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

>

> I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

>

> " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

chapter 10, The

> Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

>

> Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

>

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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You're right Carol F. Kali could not start out the right way and she

sometimes steals food from classmates (the teacher is aware and not allowing

this to happen if she can help it)and her dad still takes her to get those

nuggets from Mcs once a week:(. He says that is her cheat. He feels so

bad for her. Even though he understands why we are on this diet. He also

must eat the scd foods and I'm sure he cheats himself at work or when I'm

not around. It is such a slow process to heal and he can't help giving in. I

do wonder how she would be if he didn't give those to her but, this has been

a fight from her daddy. I fight with him constantly to eat nutritiously

himself. I don't think we have earned the 100% yet and that's why I post

95%. Kali has made an extreme amt. of progress on this diet. I will continue

to be as strict with her as I am. Hoping only for things to get better.

Should I just stop posting messages altogether or questions and find another

place to go for help? I don't want to mess anyone else up. Thanks. Jenn &

Kali 95% scd 6 months Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

> >

> > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > does this mean?

>

> It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small

exceptions can

> cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they

think best but

> must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD,

using some of

> the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

>

> I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

>

> " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

chapter 10, The

> Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

>

> Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

>

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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We ARE sticking to the allowable foods in the BTVC other than the

difficulties I have mentioned. Is it still worth it for me to continue with

Kali? Jenn

Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

> >

> > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > does this mean?

>

> It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small

exceptions can

> cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as they

think best but

> must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD,

using some of

> the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

>

> I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

>

> " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

chapter 10, The

> Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

>

> Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

>

> Carol F.

> Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Considering all my info. about Kali and the replies to the 95% remark, do I

have the permission to stay aboard? Are we doing the scd.? I am trying to

stick to it as much as possible. Either kick me out now or open those arms a

little wider so I can fit here too.:) I know this is not about compromise

but, compliance. Thanks. Jenn

Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

>

> >

> > >

> > > I've noticed some of you post with a note that you are 95% SCD. What

> > > does this mean?

> >

> > It means you are not SCD as SCD requires maximum compliance. Small

> exceptions can

> > cause big bacterial overgrowth. People are of course welcome to do as

they

> think best but

> > must not say they are on SCD. They may be getting some ideas from SCD,

> using some of

> > the protocols but there is no such thing as 95%..

> >

> > I says on page 61 of BTVC, edition 10

> >

> > " It is recomended that nothing be eaten other than those foods listed in

> chapter 10, The

> > Specific Carbohydrate Diet. "

> >

> > Do I sound mean.... strict? I want you to get well! :-)

> >

> > Carol F.

> > Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

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> > I agree that we should all strive for 100% SCD. But it's much

> easier for an

> > adult to make the choice of eating only the foods in Chapter 10 of

> BTVC than

> > it is to get your child to do that.

I totally agree with you and have a tendency to take the adult version view as I

only take

vitamins and calcium as supplements.

Elaine always felt that as healing progressed there would be less need for

supplements

and since the discovery that SCD helps with autism is fairly recent, it caught

some

veterans unaware. Fortunately, experienced parents like Mimi and Jody G. and

also

Defelice have experience and research to share about this.

I still think parents are too much at the mercy of countless tests and trial

supplements

which relegate diet to almost a secondary status. But I'll opt for whatever

works!

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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There are reasons (other than gut issues) why some of our kids have to take

a lot of supplements, vitamins and minerals. I'm sure you must have read

from other posts about heavy metal toxicity in ASD kids. You may think that

we're a bunch of whackos (I might think that, too, if I was not the parent

of a child with Autism) but there are thousands of parents who believe in

this and many are doing a procedure called chelation with their kids. These

vitamins, supplements and minerals are all extremely essential during this

process. I won't go into all the reasons but I think other parents would

back me up on this.

I realize that SCD for Autism is fairly new and people who are doing it

strictly for GI issues cannot possibly understand the other factors involved

for our kids. Please just keep in mind that it's a whole different ball

game for us.

Diane

PS - I misspoke when I said my son takes 25-30 supplements in my previous

post. My son takes about that number of pills per day but it's actually

about 15 different products (including vitamins minerals and dietary

supplements).

_____

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To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: What is 95% SCD?

>

> > I agree that we should all strive for 100% SCD. But it's much

> easier for an

> > adult to make the choice of eating only the foods in Chapter 10 of

> BTVC than

> > it is to get your child to do that.

I totally agree with you and have a tendency to take the adult version view

as I only take

vitamins and calcium as supplements.

Elaine always felt that as healing progressed there would be less need for

supplements

and since the discovery that SCD helps with autism is fairly recent, it

caught some

veterans unaware. Fortunately, experienced parents like Mimi and Jody G. and

also

Defelice have experience and research to share about this.

I still think parents are too much at the mercy of countless tests and trial

supplements

which relegate diet to almost a secondary status. But I'll opt for whatever

works!

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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> You really should try to get those McD nuggets out. Those are bad for so

> many other reasons!

Here are the reasons:

>

Chicken, water, salt, modified corn starch, sodium phosphates, chicken broth

powder

(chicken broth, salt, and natural flavoring (chicken source)), seasoning

(vegetable oil,

extracts of rosemary, mono, di- and triglycerides, lecithin). Battered and

breaded with

water, enriched bleached wheat flour (niacin, iron, thiamine mononitrate,

riboflavin, folic

acid), yellow corn flour, bleached wheat flour, modified corn starch, salt,

leavening (baking

soda, sodium acid pyrophosphate, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium

phosphate,

calcium lactate), spices, wheat starch, dried whey, corn starch. Batter set in

vegetable

shortening. Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain

partially

hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially

hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn

oil). TBHQ

and citric acid added to help preserve freshness. Dimethylpolysiloxane added as

an anti-

foaming agent.

Carol F.

Toronto, Celiac, SCD 5 years

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Hi Diane,

> of that. But when your child also has to take 25-30 supplements

per day

> it's a little difficult to find all of them without illegals.

There is a list of legal and illegal supps at

http://pecanbread.com/supplements.html

If not listed there you can ask on the list and we may have some

suggestions.

Like for the oral iron (iron pills). It is on the illegal list

because it will aggravate intestinal symptoms - it can cause stomach

infections.

For more info see " Iron supplements " at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/g_to_o.htm

We usually suggest taking iron rich foods (liver pate...) along

with vitamin C rich foods to aid absorption. If this can not be

done some get iron shots which will by pass the gut.

Sheila, SCD 57 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 42 mos

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Yes, I've seen the legal supplement list and have replaced the vast majority

of my illegal supplements. My son must have iron right now due to chelation

and I can't rely on him getting it naturally from his diet. I've also heard

of iron in the form of a cream. Does anyone know anything about that?

Thanks,

Diane

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Sheila Trenholm

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:44 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: What is 95% SCD?

Hi Diane,

> of that. But when your child also has to take 25-30 supplements

per day

> it's a little difficult to find all of them without illegals.

There is a list of legal and illegal supps at

http://pecanbread.com/supplements.html

If not listed there you can ask on the list and we may have some

suggestions.

Like for the oral iron (iron pills). It is on the illegal list

because it will aggravate intestinal symptoms - it can cause stomach

infections.

For more info see " Iron supplements " at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/g_to_o.htm

We usually suggest taking iron rich foods (liver pate...) along

with vitamin C rich foods to aid absorption. If this can not be

done some get iron shots which will by pass the gut.

Sheila, SCD 57 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 42 mos

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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Yes, I've seen the legal supplement list and have replaced the vast majority

of my illegal supplements. My son must have iron right now due to chelation

and I can't rely on him getting it naturally from his diet. I've also heard

of iron in the form of a cream. Does anyone know anything about that?

Thanks,

Diane

_____

From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On

Behalf Of Sheila Trenholm

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:44 PM

To: pecanbread

Subject: Re: What is 95% SCD?

Hi Diane,

> of that. But when your child also has to take 25-30 supplements

per day

> it's a little difficult to find all of them without illegals.

There is a list of legal and illegal supps at

http://pecanbread.com/supplements.html

If not listed there you can ask on the list and we may have some

suggestions.

Like for the oral iron (iron pills). It is on the illegal list

because it will aggravate intestinal symptoms - it can cause stomach

infections.

For more info see " Iron supplements " at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/g_to_o.htm

We usually suggest taking iron rich foods (liver pate...) along

with vitamin C rich foods to aid absorption. If this can not be

done some get iron shots which will by pass the gut.

Sheila, SCD 57 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 42 mos

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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