Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 > Debs, > I'm not sure you would like my advice about your hubby and > givingyour mother-in-law money every month. The nicest > thing I can say, is get a separate account for your money > (one your hubby doesn't have access to) and tell him if he > wants to add to her income, he has to do it himself. She's > not your mother and you have no obligation to give her any > of your money that you have worked so hard to make > (especially working with such a terrible illness as > pancreatitis.). Otherwise, you might as well not be working > since you don't see any of the money anyways. > As for the cleaning, get someone else to do it. I'm sure you > would be paying A LOT less a month and actually get the > place clean. A professional also wouldn't be upset over the > list of things you want done. > If your hubby objects, just tell him you are not getting any > service for the money you pay your mother-in-law to clean. > Kimber > > -- > Kimber > Vallejo, CA > hominid2@c... > Southwest Representative > Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 > Debs, > I'm not sure you would like my advice about your hubby and > givingyour mother-in-law money every month. The nicest > thing I can say, is get a separate account for your money > (one your hubby doesn't have access to) and tell him if he > wants to add to her income, he has to do it himself. She's > not your mother and you have no obligation to give her any > of your money that you have worked so hard to make > (especially working with such a terrible illness as > pancreatitis.). Otherwise, you might as well not be working > since you don't see any of the money anyways. > As for the cleaning, get someone else to do it. I'm sure you > would be paying A LOT less a month and actually get the > place clean. A professional also wouldn't be upset over the > list of things you want done. > If your hubby objects, just tell him you are not getting any > service for the money you pay your mother-in-law to clean. > Kimber > > -- > Kimber > Vallejo, CA > hominid2@c... > Southwest Representative > Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 > Debs, > I'm not sure you would like my advice about your hubby and > givingyour mother-in-law money every month. The nicest > thing I can say, is get a separate account for your money > (one your hubby doesn't have access to) and tell him if he > wants to add to her income, he has to do it himself. She's > not your mother and you have no obligation to give her any > of your money that you have worked so hard to make > (especially working with such a terrible illness as > pancreatitis.). Otherwise, you might as well not be working > since you don't see any of the money anyways. > As for the cleaning, get someone else to do it. I'm sure you > would be paying A LOT less a month and actually get the > place clean. A professional also wouldn't be upset over the > list of things you want done. > If your hubby objects, just tell him you are not getting any > service for the money you pay your mother-in-law to clean. > Kimber > > -- > Kimber > Vallejo, CA > hominid2@c... > Southwest Representative > Pancreatitis Association, International Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Cheryl Hi thanks...how do you work 72 hours man oh man. Yes I am at the end stage enough is enough we also pay child support as well. Its like shes in here 50 ealy years and needs to look after herself I dont know how long I got to work and I have my dreams and holidays I want to go on . We my partner and I have never had on yet in 5 years plus so I want to save some for that Thanks Debs > > Dear Debs, > > > > If you can and your partner can afford to continue to help out your > > mother-in-law financially, that's one thing. But YOU don't have to > pay for > > it. She's your partner's mother, not yours. And you are not the > local > > welfare office. Weren't you having the same sort of (or similar) > problems > > with your spouse's daughter a while back? Perhaps you need to be a > bit more > > firm. And perhaps your partner needs a class on codependency. In > fact, you > > better go along. :-) Haha. > > > > What he does with his money is not something you can control - I'm > sorry. > > But as his spouse, you SHOULD have some say about where your mutual > household > > income goes. I assume you split your bills - and savings - and > earnings - > > etc.?? If so, of COURSE you should find a way to agree on how it's > spent. > > But I would think that if you don't want to pay for her, you > certainly should > > not HAVE to... How about he pays for her from his OWN account, > after all > > other family bills are met? Seems perfectly reasonable to me. > > > > As far as the housekeeping goes, you are paying an EXORBITANT fee > for a > > service that you are not getting. It's not a matter of her being > your > > mother-in-law where that is concerned. Hire someone that is going > to HELP > > YOU OUT and DO WHAT YOU NEED DONE. > > > > $600 should pay for some DAMN FINE HOUSEKEEPING. Reduce it to half > of that > > and get somebody who knows how to clean house. At least in the > states, $300 > > should get you one CONTINUALLY SPOTLESS house. It's not a matter > of > > " helping " someone - and paying them for it - if they won't help you > back and > > do the simple things agreed upon. > > > > Especially if you're already " giving " them cash to live on in the > first > > place. I'm so sorry that you are caught up in this nonsense, but > clearly > > it's causing you grief, which just makes your CP worse and your > life a living > > hell. It's up to you, but I'd put an end to it. If your partner > argues and > > whines, tell him it's a matter of your health - and it is. If he > wants to go > > live at home with mommy, he knows the way. Meanwhile, stop being a > doormat. > > > > She is your mother-in-law. You are her daughter-in-law. That is > the only > > relationship that you should have. A financial relationship is out > of line, > > inappropriate, and causing you a great deal of stress, and causing > stress in > > your primary relationship. Clearly it's time to redefine roles > into > > something far more healthy and realistic - to say nothing > of " traditional " - > > or reasonable. > > > > You live daily with a terminal illness that is extremely expensive > and > > terrifically stressful. You should not have the bare the burden of > someone > > else that doesn't live in your home simply because they mismanage > their money > > - or for any other reason for that matter. Put your foot down. > Don't wait > > for it to get any further out of hand than it is already. And put > your > > husband on-line. We have a few choice words for him as well. > > > > Ann Landers in Kansas City, > > Terry > > > > In a message dated 7/27/02 12:01:30 AM, colind@x writes: > > > > << Hi > > > > Things arent going all that well I have problems with my mother > > inlaw whose meddling and making my life hell with my partner and I. > > We pay her to clean house and she does what she wants when she > feels > > like it.Not helping me at all just making me fuming. It of course > > puts added strain on me and my partner.we also have to bail her out > > to the tune of 500 to $1000 a month as she needs 4k a month to live > > on with her hubby cos they smoke drink and have race horses. He > > doesnt work just trians his horses that dont win on their small > farm. > > I am tired of it. I have been bailing her out for a year. We also > > pay her $150 a week to clean and my house is not clean. > > So its all very draining and it make sme wonder why I work at all > as > > she takes all my money > > Any ideas on sorting her would be great. > > I am worried that if I end up in hospital again she will take over > > and everything wil turn to weetbix. > > She folds clothes in wrong way, bathrooms filthy till I left a list > > now she ignorse my list and tells me what shes been doing > > arghhhhhhhhhhhh. Shes very manipulating and winds her son up does > > the tears act if you ask her to do anything . > > Shes stressing me outand I have talked to my partner but he gets > all > > defensive as she leans on him for money. I am at a loss as to what > > to do > > > > Debs >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Cheryl Hi thanks...how do you work 72 hours man oh man. Yes I am at the end stage enough is enough we also pay child support as well. Its like shes in here 50 ealy years and needs to look after herself I dont know how long I got to work and I have my dreams and holidays I want to go on . We my partner and I have never had on yet in 5 years plus so I want to save some for that Thanks Debs > > Dear Debs, > > > > If you can and your partner can afford to continue to help out your > > mother-in-law financially, that's one thing. But YOU don't have to > pay for > > it. She's your partner's mother, not yours. And you are not the > local > > welfare office. Weren't you having the same sort of (or similar) > problems > > with your spouse's daughter a while back? Perhaps you need to be a > bit more > > firm. And perhaps your partner needs a class on codependency. In > fact, you > > better go along. :-) Haha. > > > > What he does with his money is not something you can control - I'm > sorry. > > But as his spouse, you SHOULD have some say about where your mutual > household > > income goes. I assume you split your bills - and savings - and > earnings - > > etc.?? If so, of COURSE you should find a way to agree on how it's > spent. > > But I would think that if you don't want to pay for her, you > certainly should > > not HAVE to... How about he pays for her from his OWN account, > after all > > other family bills are met? Seems perfectly reasonable to me. > > > > As far as the housekeeping goes, you are paying an EXORBITANT fee > for a > > service that you are not getting. It's not a matter of her being > your > > mother-in-law where that is concerned. Hire someone that is going > to HELP > > YOU OUT and DO WHAT YOU NEED DONE. > > > > $600 should pay for some DAMN FINE HOUSEKEEPING. Reduce it to half > of that > > and get somebody who knows how to clean house. At least in the > states, $300 > > should get you one CONTINUALLY SPOTLESS house. It's not a matter > of > > " helping " someone - and paying them for it - if they won't help you > back and > > do the simple things agreed upon. > > > > Especially if you're already " giving " them cash to live on in the > first > > place. I'm so sorry that you are caught up in this nonsense, but > clearly > > it's causing you grief, which just makes your CP worse and your > life a living > > hell. It's up to you, but I'd put an end to it. If your partner > argues and > > whines, tell him it's a matter of your health - and it is. If he > wants to go > > live at home with mommy, he knows the way. Meanwhile, stop being a > doormat. > > > > She is your mother-in-law. You are her daughter-in-law. That is > the only > > relationship that you should have. A financial relationship is out > of line, > > inappropriate, and causing you a great deal of stress, and causing > stress in > > your primary relationship. Clearly it's time to redefine roles > into > > something far more healthy and realistic - to say nothing > of " traditional " - > > or reasonable. > > > > You live daily with a terminal illness that is extremely expensive > and > > terrifically stressful. You should not have the bare the burden of > someone > > else that doesn't live in your home simply because they mismanage > their money > > - or for any other reason for that matter. Put your foot down. > Don't wait > > for it to get any further out of hand than it is already. And put > your > > husband on-line. We have a few choice words for him as well. > > > > Ann Landers in Kansas City, > > Terry > > > > In a message dated 7/27/02 12:01:30 AM, colind@x writes: > > > > << Hi > > > > Things arent going all that well I have problems with my mother > > inlaw whose meddling and making my life hell with my partner and I. > > We pay her to clean house and she does what she wants when she > feels > > like it.Not helping me at all just making me fuming. It of course > > puts added strain on me and my partner.we also have to bail her out > > to the tune of 500 to $1000 a month as she needs 4k a month to live > > on with her hubby cos they smoke drink and have race horses. He > > doesnt work just trians his horses that dont win on their small > farm. > > I am tired of it. I have been bailing her out for a year. We also > > pay her $150 a week to clean and my house is not clean. > > So its all very draining and it make sme wonder why I work at all > as > > she takes all my money > > Any ideas on sorting her would be great. > > I am worried that if I end up in hospital again she will take over > > and everything wil turn to weetbix. > > She folds clothes in wrong way, bathrooms filthy till I left a list > > now she ignorse my list and tells me what shes been doing > > arghhhhhhhhhhhh. Shes very manipulating and winds her son up does > > the tears act if you ask her to do anything . > > Shes stressing me outand I have talked to my partner but he gets > all > > defensive as she leans on him for money. I am at a loss as to what > > to do > > > > Debs >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Cheryl Hi thanks...how do you work 72 hours man oh man. Yes I am at the end stage enough is enough we also pay child support as well. Its like shes in here 50 ealy years and needs to look after herself I dont know how long I got to work and I have my dreams and holidays I want to go on . We my partner and I have never had on yet in 5 years plus so I want to save some for that Thanks Debs > > Dear Debs, > > > > If you can and your partner can afford to continue to help out your > > mother-in-law financially, that's one thing. But YOU don't have to > pay for > > it. She's your partner's mother, not yours. And you are not the > local > > welfare office. Weren't you having the same sort of (or similar) > problems > > with your spouse's daughter a while back? Perhaps you need to be a > bit more > > firm. And perhaps your partner needs a class on codependency. In > fact, you > > better go along. :-) Haha. > > > > What he does with his money is not something you can control - I'm > sorry. > > But as his spouse, you SHOULD have some say about where your mutual > household > > income goes. I assume you split your bills - and savings - and > earnings - > > etc.?? If so, of COURSE you should find a way to agree on how it's > spent. > > But I would think that if you don't want to pay for her, you > certainly should > > not HAVE to... How about he pays for her from his OWN account, > after all > > other family bills are met? Seems perfectly reasonable to me. > > > > As far as the housekeeping goes, you are paying an EXORBITANT fee > for a > > service that you are not getting. It's not a matter of her being > your > > mother-in-law where that is concerned. Hire someone that is going > to HELP > > YOU OUT and DO WHAT YOU NEED DONE. > > > > $600 should pay for some DAMN FINE HOUSEKEEPING. Reduce it to half > of that > > and get somebody who knows how to clean house. At least in the > states, $300 > > should get you one CONTINUALLY SPOTLESS house. It's not a matter > of > > " helping " someone - and paying them for it - if they won't help you > back and > > do the simple things agreed upon. > > > > Especially if you're already " giving " them cash to live on in the > first > > place. I'm so sorry that you are caught up in this nonsense, but > clearly > > it's causing you grief, which just makes your CP worse and your > life a living > > hell. It's up to you, but I'd put an end to it. If your partner > argues and > > whines, tell him it's a matter of your health - and it is. If he > wants to go > > live at home with mommy, he knows the way. Meanwhile, stop being a > doormat. > > > > She is your mother-in-law. You are her daughter-in-law. That is > the only > > relationship that you should have. A financial relationship is out > of line, > > inappropriate, and causing you a great deal of stress, and causing > stress in > > your primary relationship. Clearly it's time to redefine roles > into > > something far more healthy and realistic - to say nothing > of " traditional " - > > or reasonable. > > > > You live daily with a terminal illness that is extremely expensive > and > > terrifically stressful. You should not have the bare the burden of > someone > > else that doesn't live in your home simply because they mismanage > their money > > - or for any other reason for that matter. Put your foot down. > Don't wait > > for it to get any further out of hand than it is already. And put > your > > husband on-line. We have a few choice words for him as well. > > > > Ann Landers in Kansas City, > > Terry > > > > In a message dated 7/27/02 12:01:30 AM, colind@x writes: > > > > << Hi > > > > Things arent going all that well I have problems with my mother > > inlaw whose meddling and making my life hell with my partner and I. > > We pay her to clean house and she does what she wants when she > feels > > like it.Not helping me at all just making me fuming. It of course > > puts added strain on me and my partner.we also have to bail her out > > to the tune of 500 to $1000 a month as she needs 4k a month to live > > on with her hubby cos they smoke drink and have race horses. He > > doesnt work just trians his horses that dont win on their small > farm. > > I am tired of it. I have been bailing her out for a year. We also > > pay her $150 a week to clean and my house is not clean. > > So its all very draining and it make sme wonder why I work at all > as > > she takes all my money > > Any ideas on sorting her would be great. > > I am worried that if I end up in hospital again she will take over > > and everything wil turn to weetbix. > > She folds clothes in wrong way, bathrooms filthy till I left a list > > now she ignorse my list and tells me what shes been doing > > arghhhhhhhhhhhh. Shes very manipulating and winds her son up does > > the tears act if you ask her to do anything . > > Shes stressing me outand I have talked to my partner but he gets > all > > defensive as she leans on him for money. I am at a loss as to what > > to do > > > > Debs >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Cheryl Hi thanks...how do you work 72 hours man oh man. Yes I am at the end stage enough is enough we also pay child support as well. Its like shes in here 50 ealy years and needs to look after herself I dont know how long I got to work and I have my dreams and holidays I want to go on . We my partner and I have never had on yet in 5 years plus so I want to save some for that Thanks Debs > > Dear Debs, > > > > If you can and your partner can afford to continue to help out your > > mother-in-law financially, that's one thing. But YOU don't have to > pay for > > it. She's your partner's mother, not yours. And you are not the > local > > welfare office. Weren't you having the same sort of (or similar) > problems > > with your spouse's daughter a while back? Perhaps you need to be a > bit more > > firm. And perhaps your partner needs a class on codependency. In > fact, you > > better go along. :-) Haha. > > > > What he does with his money is not something you can control - I'm > sorry. > > But as his spouse, you SHOULD have some say about where your mutual > household > > income goes. I assume you split your bills - and savings - and > earnings - > > etc.?? If so, of COURSE you should find a way to agree on how it's > spent. > > But I would think that if you don't want to pay for her, you > certainly should > > not HAVE to... How about he pays for her from his OWN account, > after all > > other family bills are met? Seems perfectly reasonable to me. > > > > As far as the housekeeping goes, you are paying an EXORBITANT fee > for a > > service that you are not getting. It's not a matter of her being > your > > mother-in-law where that is concerned. Hire someone that is going > to HELP > > YOU OUT and DO WHAT YOU NEED DONE. > > > > $600 should pay for some DAMN FINE HOUSEKEEPING. Reduce it to half > of that > > and get somebody who knows how to clean house. At least in the > states, $300 > > should get you one CONTINUALLY SPOTLESS house. It's not a matter > of > > " helping " someone - and paying them for it - if they won't help you > back and > > do the simple things agreed upon. > > > > Especially if you're already " giving " them cash to live on in the > first > > place. I'm so sorry that you are caught up in this nonsense, but > clearly > > it's causing you grief, which just makes your CP worse and your > life a living > > hell. It's up to you, but I'd put an end to it. If your partner > argues and > > whines, tell him it's a matter of your health - and it is. If he > wants to go > > live at home with mommy, he knows the way. Meanwhile, stop being a > doormat. > > > > She is your mother-in-law. You are her daughter-in-law. That is > the only > > relationship that you should have. A financial relationship is out > of line, > > inappropriate, and causing you a great deal of stress, and causing > stress in > > your primary relationship. Clearly it's time to redefine roles > into > > something far more healthy and realistic - to say nothing > of " traditional " - > > or reasonable. > > > > You live daily with a terminal illness that is extremely expensive > and > > terrifically stressful. You should not have the bare the burden of > someone > > else that doesn't live in your home simply because they mismanage > their money > > - or for any other reason for that matter. Put your foot down. > Don't wait > > for it to get any further out of hand than it is already. And put > your > > husband on-line. We have a few choice words for him as well. > > > > Ann Landers in Kansas City, > > Terry > > > > In a message dated 7/27/02 12:01:30 AM, colind@x writes: > > > > << Hi > > > > Things arent going all that well I have problems with my mother > > inlaw whose meddling and making my life hell with my partner and I. > > We pay her to clean house and she does what she wants when she > feels > > like it.Not helping me at all just making me fuming. It of course > > puts added strain on me and my partner.we also have to bail her out > > to the tune of 500 to $1000 a month as she needs 4k a month to live > > on with her hubby cos they smoke drink and have race horses. He > > doesnt work just trians his horses that dont win on their small > farm. > > I am tired of it. I have been bailing her out for a year. We also > > pay her $150 a week to clean and my house is not clean. > > So its all very draining and it make sme wonder why I work at all > as > > she takes all my money > > Any ideas on sorting her would be great. > > I am worried that if I end up in hospital again she will take over > > and everything wil turn to weetbix. > > She folds clothes in wrong way, bathrooms filthy till I left a list > > now she ignorse my list and tells me what shes been doing > > arghhhhhhhhhhhh. Shes very manipulating and winds her son up does > > the tears act if you ask her to do anything . > > Shes stressing me outand I have talked to my partner but he gets > all > > defensive as she leans on him for money. I am at a loss as to what > > to do > > > > Debs >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 Cheryl Hi thanks...how do you work 72 hours man oh man. Yes I am at the end stage enough is enough we also pay child support as well. Its like shes in here 50 ealy years and needs to look after herself I dont know how long I got to work and I have my dreams and holidays I want to go on . We my partner and I have never had on yet in 5 years plus so I want to save some for that Thanks Debs > > Dear Debs, > > > > If you can and your partner can afford to continue to help out your > > mother-in-law financially, that's one thing. But YOU don't have to > pay for > > it. She's your partner's mother, not yours. And you are not the > local > > welfare office. Weren't you having the same sort of (or similar) > problems > > with your spouse's daughter a while back? Perhaps you need to be a > bit more > > firm. And perhaps your partner needs a class on codependency. In > fact, you > > better go along. :-) Haha. > > > > What he does with his money is not something you can control - I'm > sorry. > > But as his spouse, you SHOULD have some say about where your mutual > household > > income goes. I assume you split your bills - and savings - and > earnings - > > etc.?? If so, of COURSE you should find a way to agree on how it's > spent. > > But I would think that if you don't want to pay for her, you > certainly should > > not HAVE to... How about he pays for her from his OWN account, > after all > > other family bills are met? Seems perfectly reasonable to me. > > > > As far as the housekeeping goes, you are paying an EXORBITANT fee > for a > > service that you are not getting. It's not a matter of her being > your > > mother-in-law where that is concerned. Hire someone that is going > to HELP > > YOU OUT and DO WHAT YOU NEED DONE. > > > > $600 should pay for some DAMN FINE HOUSEKEEPING. Reduce it to half > of that > > and get somebody who knows how to clean house. At least in the > states, $300 > > should get you one CONTINUALLY SPOTLESS house. It's not a matter > of > > " helping " someone - and paying them for it - if they won't help you > back and > > do the simple things agreed upon. > > > > Especially if you're already " giving " them cash to live on in the > first > > place. I'm so sorry that you are caught up in this nonsense, but > clearly > > it's causing you grief, which just makes your CP worse and your > life a living > > hell. It's up to you, but I'd put an end to it. If your partner > argues and > > whines, tell him it's a matter of your health - and it is. If he > wants to go > > live at home with mommy, he knows the way. Meanwhile, stop being a > doormat. > > > > She is your mother-in-law. You are her daughter-in-law. That is > the only > > relationship that you should have. A financial relationship is out > of line, > > inappropriate, and causing you a great deal of stress, and causing > stress in > > your primary relationship. Clearly it's time to redefine roles > into > > something far more healthy and realistic - to say nothing > of " traditional " - > > or reasonable. > > > > You live daily with a terminal illness that is extremely expensive > and > > terrifically stressful. You should not have the bare the burden of > someone > > else that doesn't live in your home simply because they mismanage > their money > > - or for any other reason for that matter. Put your foot down. > Don't wait > > for it to get any further out of hand than it is already. And put > your > > husband on-line. We have a few choice words for him as well. > > > > Ann Landers in Kansas City, > > Terry > > > > In a message dated 7/27/02 12:01:30 AM, colind@x writes: > > > > << Hi > > > > Things arent going all that well I have problems with my mother > > inlaw whose meddling and making my life hell with my partner and I. > > We pay her to clean house and she does what she wants when she > feels > > like it.Not helping me at all just making me fuming. It of course > > puts added strain on me and my partner.we also have to bail her out > > to the tune of 500 to $1000 a month as she needs 4k a month to live > > on with her hubby cos they smoke drink and have race horses. He > > doesnt work just trians his horses that dont win on their small > farm. > > I am tired of it. I have been bailing her out for a year. We also > > pay her $150 a week to clean and my house is not clean. > > So its all very draining and it make sme wonder why I work at all > as > > she takes all my money > > Any ideas on sorting her would be great. > > I am worried that if I end up in hospital again she will take over > > and everything wil turn to weetbix. > > She folds clothes in wrong way, bathrooms filthy till I left a list > > now she ignorse my list and tells me what shes been doing > > arghhhhhhhhhhhh. Shes very manipulating and winds her son up does > > the tears act if you ask her to do anything . > > Shes stressing me outand I have talked to my partner but he gets > all > > defensive as she leans on him for money. I am at a loss as to what > > to do > > > > Debs >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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