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Karyn,

I am so sorry for your hurt, like I am for all in this group.

I read that you had the distal pancreatectomy. Can you tell me about that

procedure. I am facing the proabability of this surgery in October, and I am

wanting to find out details - pain associated with the incision, recovery time,

etc. My doctor does not want to do this, but the stricture in my already

dialated duct is probably too tight to do the Puestow as he had intended to do.

Did you already have diabetes before the surgery, or did you develop them as a

result. I do not have diabetes now, so I worried.

Any information you can give me, I would greatly appeciate it.

My thoughts and prayers are with you - and all on this Board!!

Praying for pain free days for all,

KarynWms@... wrote:From: Chuck Sullivan <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pancreatitis/post?protectID=2190150440982211\

35090199186101147223078143057046167121181chuck@...>

Date: Tue Aug 13, 2002 11:14pm

Subject: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pancreatitis/message/34481?expand=1 " >Re: New

with questions Kimber

>>> I am end-stage as well .....the mythical burnout occur... theoretically

the pancreas will stop hurting upon finally reaching burnout .....end-stage

comes when .. the deterioration of your pancreas has progressed ... where it

will remain inflamed until " burnout " or removal. ...We all know we can stop

the pain by the surgical removal of our pancreas but the price for many of us

is just too high. ....Chuck<<<

I also belong to the End Stage Pancreatitis League. Actually, I first went to

the Emergency Room 8/4/99, was diagnosed with Idiopathic Calcific Chronic

Pancreatitis, and had a Distal Pancreatectomy 9/14/99. Following the surgery,

the Surgeon said I was already End Stage. I was fortunate that I was spared

the 10 to 15 years of attacks between the time I probably developed it from a

rough Cholecystectomy, where they removed my gallbladder and stones from my

pancreatic ducts. In retrospect, of course, there are now definable

Pancreatitis related symptoms that I can now recall.

I was told that my pancreas was nearing burn out, the point to where such

severe calcification has occurred that the pancreas would then be atrophied

and nonfunctional. The Surgeon and Gastroenterologist told me that once this

occurred, I would have no pancreatic tissue to be subjected to the

autodigestion caused by caustic action of the enzymes. Within a month most of

my islet cells had been damaged and I had developed insulin dependent

Diabetes.

I was fortunate to find an excellent Pain Management Physician. He understood

the pathophysiology of chronic pain as well as the complex treatment. I

learned a lot about the pharmacological component of pain management, drug

interactions, dose spacing, and the interrelationship of complementary

therapies.

He explained why there was probably a misunderstanding about the relationship

of pancreatic burnout and pain. Historically, doctors used the analogy of a

tooth abscess. If you have ever had a cavity or tooth abscess, you know that

it can be painful, however, left untreated, it eventually quits hurting

because the nerve itself is dead.

He was a proponent of aggressive early surgical Pancreatectomy and Islet Cell

Transplant. He explained that the calcification and damage caused from the

caustic enzymatic pancreatic juices is not limited to the pancreas. The

organs surrounding the pancreas are all at risk for injury which can result

in chronic neurological pain as well. Not only is extended pain a

consideration, but functional damage can be a concern. When my disease was at

its worse, the doctors were concerned about a diagnosis of Multi-System Organ

Failure.

It was explained that the Total Pancreatectomy is sometimes done for pain

relief, even after the probability of obtaining Islet Cells. This wasn't an

option for me becasue I was already showing signs of surrounbding tissue

damage. Even if the pancreas was removed I would still contend with daily

pain.

Like Chuck, I can never give up hope.

Karyn , RN

Founder / President

http://www.pancassociation.org

KarynWms@.../

Pancreatitis Association International

Many People, Many Faces, One Voice

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Karyn,

I am so sorry for your hurt, like I am for all in this group.

I read that you had the distal pancreatectomy. Can you tell me about that

procedure. I am facing the proabability of this surgery in October, and I am

wanting to find out details - pain associated with the incision, recovery time,

etc. My doctor does not want to do this, but the stricture in my already

dialated duct is probably too tight to do the Puestow as he had intended to do.

Did you already have diabetes before the surgery, or did you develop them as a

result. I do not have diabetes now, so I worried.

Any information you can give me, I would greatly appeciate it.

My thoughts and prayers are with you - and all on this Board!!

Praying for pain free days for all,

KarynWms@... wrote:From: Chuck Sullivan <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pancreatitis/post?protectID=2190150440982211\

35090199186101147223078143057046167121181chuck@...>

Date: Tue Aug 13, 2002 11:14pm

Subject: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pancreatitis/message/34481?expand=1 " >Re: New

with questions Kimber

>>> I am end-stage as well .....the mythical burnout occur... theoretically

the pancreas will stop hurting upon finally reaching burnout .....end-stage

comes when .. the deterioration of your pancreas has progressed ... where it

will remain inflamed until " burnout " or removal. ...We all know we can stop

the pain by the surgical removal of our pancreas but the price for many of us

is just too high. ....Chuck<<<

I also belong to the End Stage Pancreatitis League. Actually, I first went to

the Emergency Room 8/4/99, was diagnosed with Idiopathic Calcific Chronic

Pancreatitis, and had a Distal Pancreatectomy 9/14/99. Following the surgery,

the Surgeon said I was already End Stage. I was fortunate that I was spared

the 10 to 15 years of attacks between the time I probably developed it from a

rough Cholecystectomy, where they removed my gallbladder and stones from my

pancreatic ducts. In retrospect, of course, there are now definable

Pancreatitis related symptoms that I can now recall.

I was told that my pancreas was nearing burn out, the point to where such

severe calcification has occurred that the pancreas would then be atrophied

and nonfunctional. The Surgeon and Gastroenterologist told me that once this

occurred, I would have no pancreatic tissue to be subjected to the

autodigestion caused by caustic action of the enzymes. Within a month most of

my islet cells had been damaged and I had developed insulin dependent

Diabetes.

I was fortunate to find an excellent Pain Management Physician. He understood

the pathophysiology of chronic pain as well as the complex treatment. I

learned a lot about the pharmacological component of pain management, drug

interactions, dose spacing, and the interrelationship of complementary

therapies.

He explained why there was probably a misunderstanding about the relationship

of pancreatic burnout and pain. Historically, doctors used the analogy of a

tooth abscess. If you have ever had a cavity or tooth abscess, you know that

it can be painful, however, left untreated, it eventually quits hurting

because the nerve itself is dead.

He was a proponent of aggressive early surgical Pancreatectomy and Islet Cell

Transplant. He explained that the calcification and damage caused from the

caustic enzymatic pancreatic juices is not limited to the pancreas. The

organs surrounding the pancreas are all at risk for injury which can result

in chronic neurological pain as well. Not only is extended pain a

consideration, but functional damage can be a concern. When my disease was at

its worse, the doctors were concerned about a diagnosis of Multi-System Organ

Failure.

It was explained that the Total Pancreatectomy is sometimes done for pain

relief, even after the probability of obtaining Islet Cells. This wasn't an

option for me becasue I was already showing signs of surrounbding tissue

damage. Even if the pancreas was removed I would still contend with daily

pain.

Like Chuck, I can never give up hope.

Karyn , RN

Founder / President

http://www.pancassociation.org

KarynWms@.../

Pancreatitis Association International

Many People, Many Faces, One Voice

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