Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Well I am going to try the distilled water too, thanks for sharing this. Also I have been posting about Colliodal Silver, started using it topically a few weeks ago and I can't believe the difference in my skin. The redness goes away in a few hours. I am dabbing it on the bad spots once a day, but have just increased that to twice a day. I also use Tea Tree Oil Soap to wash my face. It is the only soap I've been able to use since using Cetiphil 8 years ago. I stopped using it because I didn't like all the ingredients in it. I think my rosacea was triggered by a facial peel I used and I would be careful of these, To exfoliate my facial skin I just used my hands and rubbed in circles when washing my face, this is best done with out any soap and just a bit of water. But since using the Tea tree oil soap I haven't had ANY dry skin on my face. The kind I have is made by Desert Essence. Kim Re: Facial care > Amazing. If only the solution was that simple for all of us. Wouldn't > that be wonderful. Do you live in a climate that is cold this time of > year? I generally like to wash my face with luke warm water, do you > warm it up a little first somehow? It shouldn't be that hard here in > So California, it's generally warm here. But cool water is probably > good for sensitive cea skin anyway. Maybe I'll try it for a while > and see what happens. Imagine finding a cure like that which didn't > cost us any money. Those companies selling cea products certainly > don't want to hear about anything like that. > > (no offense meant to Dr. Sy, she seems genuinely interested in > helping people with skin problems, not just making money) > > Happy Thanksgiving Everyone > > > > Hi all, > > I agree with what RS wrote, but wanted to add my recent experience. > A woman named wrote about a week ago about discovering that > chlorinated water was exacerbating her rosacea, and that she's > discovered this while on a trip to a country where she didn't use > chlorinated water on her face. A lightbulb went on, as I realized > that my skin had also cleared up during a similar vacation on a > spring-fed mountain lake in another country. > I've now been washing my face for 6 days with distilled water only, > and what a difference! The only thing I have left from the rosacea > are the red blood vessels under the skin of one cheek, and unless > you're close up, it just looks like blusher or a healthy glow. > YEE HAW!! > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Well I am going to try the distilled water too, thanks for sharing this. Also I have been posting about Colliodal Silver, started using it topically a few weeks ago and I can't believe the difference in my skin. The redness goes away in a few hours. I am dabbing it on the bad spots once a day, but have just increased that to twice a day. I also use Tea Tree Oil Soap to wash my face. It is the only soap I've been able to use since using Cetiphil 8 years ago. I stopped using it because I didn't like all the ingredients in it. I think my rosacea was triggered by a facial peel I used and I would be careful of these, To exfoliate my facial skin I just used my hands and rubbed in circles when washing my face, this is best done with out any soap and just a bit of water. But since using the Tea tree oil soap I haven't had ANY dry skin on my face. The kind I have is made by Desert Essence. Kim Re: Facial care > Amazing. If only the solution was that simple for all of us. Wouldn't > that be wonderful. Do you live in a climate that is cold this time of > year? I generally like to wash my face with luke warm water, do you > warm it up a little first somehow? It shouldn't be that hard here in > So California, it's generally warm here. But cool water is probably > good for sensitive cea skin anyway. Maybe I'll try it for a while > and see what happens. Imagine finding a cure like that which didn't > cost us any money. Those companies selling cea products certainly > don't want to hear about anything like that. > > (no offense meant to Dr. Sy, she seems genuinely interested in > helping people with skin problems, not just making money) > > Happy Thanksgiving Everyone > > > > Hi all, > > I agree with what RS wrote, but wanted to add my recent experience. > A woman named wrote about a week ago about discovering that > chlorinated water was exacerbating her rosacea, and that she's > discovered this while on a trip to a country where she didn't use > chlorinated water on her face. A lightbulb went on, as I realized > that my skin had also cleared up during a similar vacation on a > spring-fed mountain lake in another country. > I've now been washing my face for 6 days with distilled water only, > and what a difference! The only thing I have left from the rosacea > are the red blood vessels under the skin of one cheek, and unless > you're close up, it just looks like blusher or a healthy glow. > YEE HAW!! > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Well I am going to try the distilled water too, thanks for sharing this. Also I have been posting about Colliodal Silver, started using it topically a few weeks ago and I can't believe the difference in my skin. The redness goes away in a few hours. I am dabbing it on the bad spots once a day, but have just increased that to twice a day. I also use Tea Tree Oil Soap to wash my face. It is the only soap I've been able to use since using Cetiphil 8 years ago. I stopped using it because I didn't like all the ingredients in it. I think my rosacea was triggered by a facial peel I used and I would be careful of these, To exfoliate my facial skin I just used my hands and rubbed in circles when washing my face, this is best done with out any soap and just a bit of water. But since using the Tea tree oil soap I haven't had ANY dry skin on my face. The kind I have is made by Desert Essence. Kim Re: Facial care > Amazing. If only the solution was that simple for all of us. Wouldn't > that be wonderful. Do you live in a climate that is cold this time of > year? I generally like to wash my face with luke warm water, do you > warm it up a little first somehow? It shouldn't be that hard here in > So California, it's generally warm here. But cool water is probably > good for sensitive cea skin anyway. Maybe I'll try it for a while > and see what happens. Imagine finding a cure like that which didn't > cost us any money. Those companies selling cea products certainly > don't want to hear about anything like that. > > (no offense meant to Dr. Sy, she seems genuinely interested in > helping people with skin problems, not just making money) > > Happy Thanksgiving Everyone > > > > Hi all, > > I agree with what RS wrote, but wanted to add my recent experience. > A woman named wrote about a week ago about discovering that > chlorinated water was exacerbating her rosacea, and that she's > discovered this while on a trip to a country where she didn't use > chlorinated water on her face. A lightbulb went on, as I realized > that my skin had also cleared up during a similar vacation on a > spring-fed mountain lake in another country. > I've now been washing my face for 6 days with distilled water only, > and what a difference! The only thing I have left from the rosacea > are the red blood vessels under the skin of one cheek, and unless > you're close up, it just looks like blusher or a healthy glow. > YEE HAW!! > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 I would call mine a mild case now, I'm not using any medications. For me it started about 6 years ago. it started around my eyes and I had that for about 8 months or so then it completely went away. Then about 6 months later it started on my face. It did get pretty bad and I used the Metr. gel on it which seemed to help but never got any better until 2 years ago I started using the Tea tree oil soap just by accident, my niece had lice and they where using it so I tried it and have been using it ever since. It alone has helped bring better condition to my skin. But the silver has been a very noticeable improvement in such a short time, I'd like to find out if it could do the same for others. It is pretty expensive but you don't need to use very much. Kim > kim > > great to hear that the collodial silver is working for you > if you don't mind.. > is your rosacea mild? > > thanks > > lori > Re: Facial care > > > > > > > Amazing. If only the solution was that simple for all of us. Wouldn't > > > that be wonderful. Do you live in a climate that is cold this time of > > > year? I generally like to wash my face with luke warm water, do you > > > warm it up a little first somehow? It shouldn't be that hard here in > > > So California, it's generally warm here. But cool water is probably > > > good for sensitive cea skin anyway. Maybe I'll try it for a while > > > and see what happens. Imagine finding a cure like that which didn't > > > cost us any money. Those companies selling cea products certainly > > > don't want to hear about anything like that. > > > > > > (no offense meant to Dr. Sy, she seems genuinely interested in > > > helping people with skin problems, not just making money) > > > > > > Happy Thanksgiving Everyone > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I agree with what RS wrote, but wanted to add my recent experience. > > > A woman named wrote about a week ago about discovering that > > > chlorinated water was exacerbating her rosacea, and that she's > > > discovered this while on a trip to a country where she didn't use > > > chlorinated water on her face. A lightbulb went on, as I realized > > > that my skin had also cleared up during a similar vacation on a > > > spring-fed mountain lake in another country. > > > I've now been washing my face for 6 days with distilled water only, > > > and what a difference! The only thing I have left from the rosacea > > > are the red blood vessels under the skin of one cheek, and unless > > > you're close up, it just looks like blusher or a healthy glow. > > > YEE HAW!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group > > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > > > > > To leave the list send an email to > > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Hi Kim, Where and how does someone obtain Colliodal Silver. What is it?? Does it help with the red bumps that rosacea causes? Thanks for any info you can give! Jennette --- Kim Beckett dolphinhill@...> wrote: > Well I am going to try the distilled water too, > thanks for sharing this. > Also I have been posting about Colliodal Silver, > started using it topically > a few weeks ago and I can't believe the difference > in my skin. The redness > goes away in a few hours. I am dabbing it on the > bad spots once a day, but > have just increased that to twice a day. > I also use Tea Tree Oil Soap to wash my face. It is > the only soap I've been > able to use since using Cetiphil 8 years ago. I > stopped using it because I > didn't like all the ingredients in it. I think my > rosacea was triggered by > a facial peel I used and I would be careful of > these, To exfoliate my > facial skin I just used my hands and rubbed in > circles when washing my face, > this is best done with out any soap and just a bit > of water. But since > using the Tea tree oil soap I haven't had ANY dry > skin on my face. The kind > I have is made by Desert Essence. > Kim > Re: Facial care > > > > Amazing. If only the solution was that simple for > all of us. Wouldn't > > that be wonderful. Do you live in a climate that > is cold this time of > > year? I generally like to wash my face with luke > warm water, do you > > warm it up a little first somehow? It shouldn't > be that hard here in > > So California, it's generally warm here. But cool > water is probably > > good for sensitive cea skin anyway. Maybe I'll > try it for a while > > and see what happens. Imagine finding a cure like > that which didn't > > cost us any money. Those companies selling cea > products certainly > > don't want to hear about anything like that. > > > > (no offense meant to Dr. Sy, she seems genuinely > interested in > > helping people with skin problems, not just making > money) > > > > Happy Thanksgiving Everyone > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I agree with what RS wrote, but wanted to add my > recent experience. > > A woman named wrote about a week ago about > discovering that > > chlorinated water was exacerbating her rosacea, > and that she's > > discovered this while on a trip to a country where > she didn't use > > chlorinated water on her face. A lightbulb went > on, as I realized > > that my skin had also cleared up during a similar > vacation on a > > spring-fed mountain lake in another country. > > I've now been washing my face for 6 days with > distilled water only, > > and what a difference! The only thing I have left > from the rosacea > > are the red blood vessels under the skin of one > cheek, and unless > > you're close up, it just looks like blusher or a > healthy glow. > > YEE HAW!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 You can find it at any health food store. Coliodal Silver is the metal silver broken down into very small particals and suspended in distilled water. for more info here are a few links.... http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/kestar/start.htm http://www.colloidal-silver.com/ > Hi Kim, > > Where and how does someone obtain Colliodal Silver. > What is it?? Does it help with the red bumps that > rosacea causes? > > Thanks for any info you can give! > > Jennette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Jeannette and Kim, According to the Highlights section on the rosacea support group website, Colloidal Silver could prove to be dangerous (under the Warnings section): " Safety is an issue,too. If > taken orally, it can accumulate in the body's > tissues and cause a disfiguring skin condition > called argyria. Skin pigmentation, especially > around the nose and mouth, turns bluish, > permanently. Those affected have been described > as looking like corpses suddenly come to life. > Medical literature also contains reports of > neurological problems that developed in long-term > users of oral silver products. " I was wondering if you guys had read that and what you think about it. Thanks, Michele Re: Facial care > > > > Amazing. If only the solution was that simple for > all of us. Wouldn't > > that be wonderful. Do you live in a climate that > is cold this time of > > year? I generally like to wash my face with luke > warm water, do you > > warm it up a little first somehow? It shouldn't > be that hard here in > > So California, it's generally warm here. But cool > water is probably > > good for sensitive cea skin anyway. Maybe I'll > try it for a while > > and see what happens. Imagine finding a cure like > that which didn't > > cost us any money. Those companies selling cea > products certainly > > don't want to hear about anything like that. > > > > (no offense meant to Dr. Sy, she seems genuinely > interested in > > helping people with skin problems, not just making > money) > > > > Happy Thanksgiving Everyone > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I agree with what RS wrote, but wanted to add my > recent experience. > > A woman named wrote about a week ago about > discovering that > > chlorinated water was exacerbating her rosacea, > and that she's > > discovered this while on a trip to a country where > she didn't use > > chlorinated water on her face. A lightbulb went > on, as I realized > > that my skin had also cleared up during a similar > vacation on a > > spring-fed mountain lake in another country. > > I've now been washing my face for 6 days with > distilled water only, > > and what a difference! The only thing I have left > from the rosacea > > are the red blood vessels under the skin of one > cheek, and unless > > you're close up, it just looks like blusher or a > healthy glow. > > YEE HAW!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2001 Report Share Posted November 23, 2001 Michele I did look into this concern too and this is what I have found....Taken from an article at http://www.oikourgos.com/silverworks/cs-info1.html What I do is take vitamin E, and I drink plenty of fluids to help eliminate silver, although it is largely excreted through the GI tract. I also advise reading full articles, not just vague, misleading internet abstracts on colloidal silver and other silver products. All of the " scare " articles pertain to other silver solutions, not colloidal silver, which has been around for years. Studies on silver proteins (of much greater particle concentration) and silver salts (i.e., silver nitrate, silver sulfate) do not accurately depict true nature of electro-colloidal silver. Both have much more silver in them and are much more concentrated than the solution I use. It is those products that, though effective, are associated with argyria, or blue-gray staining of the skin and organs due to excessive use and accumulation of such high-dosed solutions, especially when used over a long period of time. Remember: you are already getting some silver in foods and drinks you use. The concentration of silver in a weak electro-colloidal solution is similar to that: 3-10 parts per million! Please get and read the article below and you will find that at this dilution, the amount of silver one would get taking reasonable amounts of weak CS falls within the acceptable range for daily intake (referred daily dose). This is a good article as well as copies of web info sited below would be to discuss with your physician.* Bear in mind, even the confirmed cases of argyria (due to highly concentrated silver salts and silver proteins) are rare. A very good review of studies on silver salts and silver proteins to help get things in perspective is: * " Silver Product for Medical Indications: Risk-Benefit Assessment. " (Man C. Fung, MD; Debra L. Bowen, MD, Clinical Toxicology, 34,(1), 119-126, 1996. Now don't just settle for an abstract; get the whole article and read it carefully. (A good place to call would be your local hospital library or a college or university library that has a medical program). There's actually some useful implications in it for CS users, regarding " referenced daily dose " and potential usefulness of antioxidents among other points of interest that you can glean from this " scientific " review of literature on silver salts and proteins. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2001 Report Share Posted November 23, 2001 I have bought it at Food stores (Save on Foods) here in Canada and at Roots, a Health Foods store. Here is a link where you can ask for the closest store near you. The product is called Thoroughly Clean Face Wash. http://www.desertessence.com/common/form.htm > Where did you purchase your tea tree (Desert Essence) > oil soap? > > Thanks - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2001 Report Share Posted November 23, 2001 Where do I find the Tea Tree Oil Soap for the face? --- skinartgal@... wrote: > Hi et al, > Oh, the solution isn't that simple, and it's > certainly not a cure. I still > have to monitor closely the foods I eat, and my > hormones still cause the > occasional bumps. All I did was eliminate another > of the things that was > irritating my skin on a constant basis. > I live in north central Texas, which has extremely > variable temps. Right > now, it's warm -- almost 80 F -- but a few days ago > it was 27 F overnight. > I just keep a gallon of distilled water on my > bathroom counter, so it stays > room temperature. I wash my hands thoroughly, then > pour about 10 oz into a > bowl. I lather up with Plexion (I may try the Tea > Tree oil soap when the > Plexion runs out -- I use TT shampoo now), wash the > Plexion off my hands with > running water, then scoop the water out of the bowl > to rinse my face. Pat > dry with a clean towel. Voila! > I use Metrogel only about every 5th day. > Otherwise it makes my skin peel. > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Facial care > > > > Amazing. If only the solution was that simple for > all of us. Wouldn't > > that be wonderful. Do you live in a climate that > is cold this time of > > year? I generally like to wash my face with luke > warm water, do you > > warm it up a little first somehow? It shouldn't > be that hard here in > > So California, it's generally warm here. But cool > water is probably > > good for sensitive cea skin anyway. Maybe I'll > try it for a while > > and see what happens. Imagine finding a cure like > that which didn't > > cost us any money. Those companies selling cea > products certainly > > don't want to hear about anything like that. > > > > (no offense meant to Dr. Sy, she seems genuinely > interested in > > helping people with skin problems, not just making > money) > > > > Happy Thanksgiving Everyone > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to > the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently > published book. > > To leave the list send an email to > rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 My understanding is the blue skin thing stops if you stop the silver. And you have to drink gallons to get enough in your system to turn your skin blue to begin with. Like with anything else I thinnk moderation would be the wisest step. In a message dated 11/23/2001 9:43:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, empresslestat@... writes: > " Safety is an issue,too. If > > taken orally, it can accumulate in the body's > > tissues and cause a disfiguring skin condition > > called argyria. Skin pigmentation, especially > > around the nose and mouth, turns bluish, > > permanently. Those affected have been described > > as looking like corpses suddenly come to life. > > Medical literature also contains reports of > > neurological problems that developed in long-term > > users of oral silver products. " > > > I was wondering if you guys had read that and what you think about it. > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 I'm not the karen that wrote but a diffrent one with the same experience. I SCUBA, and every time we go on vacation, often it's to Cozumel, my face clears up a great deal, but then again so do my sinuses - I've always attributed it to the salt water and better food (for me). I also drink more water there (bottled of course) since dehydration is a factor in decompression sickness. Maybe a combo of internal hydration, external salt water, fresh(er) air, better nutrition and less allergins? Could I get my inusrance to pay for medical trips to the ocean or write it off my taxes as necessary medical treatment? I wish! Re: Facial care > Hi all, > > I agree with what RS wrote, but wanted to add my recent experience. > A woman named wrote about a week ago about discovering that > chlorinated water was exacerbating her rosacea, and that she's discovered > this while on a trip to a country where she didn't use chlorinated water on > her face. > A lightbulb went on, as I realized that my skin had also cleared up during > a similar vacation on a spring-fed mountain lake in another country. > I've now been washing my face for 6 days with distilled water only, and > what a difference! The only thing I have left from the rosacea are the red > blood vessels under the skin of one cheek, and unless you're close up, it > just looks like blusher or a healthy glow. > YEE HAW!! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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