Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 > > I am sorry to contradict your doctor but he may not be familiar with SCD: The 2% rule: There is a rule that allows some ingredients that constitute less than 2% of the total weight or volume unnecessary to report on the ingredient list. This can include sugar and other illegal ingredients, since these do not fall under the list of usual allergens. Store-bought products often pass through many sets of hands before they are put in the final package. For example, some juice concentrates can be made in one plant and then shipped to another plant where water is added and then they are bottled. The final producer can " honestly " say they did not add any illegals but what about the first producer of the concentrate. The original concentrate does not even have to be made in the same country as the final bottler. Commercial producers are not bound to report some of the ingredients listed in their foods. They can use processing aides, enzymes etc., that are used in the production of the food but are not technically an ingredient. When you make foods for your children you know " exactly " what you are putting into it. Buying foods such as cookies that are not listed on this site as suitable SCD™ products, can lead to trouble. Some producers may unintentionally use illegal ingredients. For example, a commercial producer uses honey that is not pure (i.e., cut with corn syrup) but includes honey on the ingredient list. The end result is that your child is unknowingly ingesting illegals. Some companies blatantly lie about the ingredients in their products. Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Carol, What is so frustrating about this is that she, and her entire family, are SCD and she told me that they are legal. Ugh. Thanks for setting me straight. a > > > > I am sorry to contradict your doctor but he may not be familiar with SCD: > > The 2% rule: There is a rule that allows some ingredients that constitute less than 2% of > the total weight or volume unnecessary to report on the ingredient list. This can include > sugar and other illegal ingredients, since these do not fall under the list of usual allergens. > Store-bought products often pass through many sets of hands before they are put in the > final package. For example, some juice concentrates can be made in one plant and then > shipped to another plant where water is added and then they are bottled. The final > producer can " honestly " say they did not add any illegals but what about the first producer > of the concentrate. The original concentrate does not even have to be made in the same > country as the final bottler. > Commercial producers are not bound to report some of the ingredients listed in their > foods. They can use processing aides, enzymes etc., that are used in the production of the > food but are not technically an ingredient. When you make foods for your children you > know " exactly " what you are putting into it. > Buying foods such as cookies that are not listed on this site as suitable SCD™ products, > can lead to trouble. Some producers may unintentionally use illegal ingredients. For > example, a commercial producer uses honey that is not pure (i.e., cut with corn syrup) but > includes honey on the ingredient list. The end result is that your child is unknowingly > ingesting illegals. > Some companies blatantly lie about the ingredients in their products. > > Carol F. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 a, This goes back several years when Knudsen was contacted. They provided WRITTEN information stating that the JUST JUICE line had nothing added to it at all. Their other products were not included in the written documentation. Therefore, they have never been included on the list of juices allowed on SCD. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Jody, Knudsen's organic pear juice is NOT from concentrate and has ascorbic acid added. Is that the ascorbic acid " addition " that made it not ok? Or some hidden ingredients? I noticed that the legal juice like Welch's grape juice is from concentrate and also has ascorbic acid added. Or have I misunderstood and bought the wrong kind? Are additions like ascorbic acid, vitamin fortification etc legal? I am finding it rather confused and would really appreciate clarification. > > a, > > This goes back several years when Knudsen was contacted. They > provided WRITTEN information stating that the JUST JUICE line had > nothing added to it at all. > Their other products were not included in the written documentation. > Therefore, they have never been included on the list of juices allowed > on SCD. > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 , What makes the pear juice illegal is what I wrote the first time. Knudsen would NOT guarantee in WRITING that there were no additional ingredients in their other lines of juices. The only one they guaranteed had no additives was the JUST JUICE line. That's all the information that we have. If at this point in time, they are willing to provide a written statement that some of their other products are guaranteed to be free of any ingredients except what is on the label, then we would reconsider adding them to the list of juices that are allowed. Welch's grape juice is allowed because Elaine herself checked the company out. The 2% rule allows companies to not include ingredients that have been used in the processing of the product and/or that are in the final product but that constitute less than 2% of the total volume. Have you seen some of the new labels that say " May contain less than 2% of the following:___,___,___,___,___. " And that list is about twice as long as the ingredients list? That's what we are referring to. Some companies have voluntarily begun to list the items that constitute less than 2% of the total volume, but this is a VOLUNTARY listing, not mandatory. So, if Knudsen or some other juice company is willing to provide written documentation that there are no other ingredients except what is listed on the label, then we will review their information and add their products to the list of allowed items. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Jody, Thank you for the reply. Is there a list of the legal store bought juices and food? I have been making everything from scratch - juices, fruit sauces,.. everything. I don't mind doing it but having some store bought ones for emergencies would be convenient. Such as when my daughter wants juice in the middle of the night and I am too tired to peel, cut and juice the fruits. Or does anyone juice their fruits and freeze the jucies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Jody, Thank you for the reply. Is there a list of the legal store bought juices and food? I have been making everything from scratch - juices, fruit sauces,.. everything. I don't mind doing it but having some store bought ones for emergencies would be convenient. Such as when my daughter wants juice in the middle of the night and I am too tired to peel, cut and juice the fruits. Or does anyone juice their fruits and freeze the jucies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Jody, Thank you for the reply. Is there a list of the legal store bought juices and food? I have been making everything from scratch - juices, fruit sauces,.. everything. I don't mind doing it but having some store bought ones for emergencies would be convenient. Such as when my daughter wants juice in the middle of the night and I am too tired to peel, cut and juice the fruits. Or does anyone juice their fruits and freeze the jucies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Tropicana Original Orange Juice in cartons (not frozen) Welch's Grape juice in bottles (not frozen) Pineapple juice (not from concentrate) Knudsen's JUST JUICE line (see their website for the list) Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 > > Tropicana Original Orange Juice in cartons (not frozen) > Welch's Grape juice in bottles (not frozen) > Pineapple juice (not from concentrate) > Knudsen's JUST JUICE line (see their website for the list) > > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > Kedem grape juice Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 > > Tropicana Original Orange Juice in cartons (not frozen) > Welch's Grape juice in bottles (not frozen) > Pineapple juice (not from concentrate) > Knudsen's JUST JUICE line (see their website for the list) > > > Jody > mom to -7 and -9 > SCD 1/03 > Kedem grape juice Carol F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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