When can we add raw foods?

[Guest guest]

Eli has been on scd for one month. There has been no change in his

psoriasis or constipation. He has been on stage3, all cooked foods.

I'm beginning to worry that he isn't getting any live foods. Is it ok

to move on to raw fruits and vegetables, peeled, or do you recommend

staying on the cooked stuff for a while longer? Also, of course,

there's more variety if you can eat raw foods.

Thanks, a H.

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

> Eli has been on scd for one month. There has been no change in his

> psoriasis or constipation. He has been on stage3, all cooked

foods.

> I'm beginning to worry that he isn't getting any live foods. Is it

ok

> to move on to raw fruits and vegetables, peeled, or do you recommend

> staying on the cooked stuff for a while longer? Also, of course,

> there's more variety if you can eat raw foods.

If he is still having constipation then raw fruits and vegetables may

just make it worse. Please see

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/constipation_

continued.htm

Exactly What foods is he eating?

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Here's his typical diet:

We rotate proteins in a 5 day cycle- turkey, peas and extra nuts and

seed butter, chicken or hen, tuna and avocado, and salmon.

For breakfast he almost always has cooked fruit topped with almond

butter or baked with a nut flour crust, or with almond yogurt.

Lunch is usually a lot of cooked vegetables, with some of his protein

for the day.

Dinner is the same as lunch.

He's eating about 15 cups of almond yogurt a week.

On occasion I make vegetable juice.

Snacks are usually more cooked fruit, nut balls, or one of the (egg

free) cookie/candy recipes that are scd legal.

Maybe you can see something that might help with his constipation?

We tried the prunes and the concentrated prune juice with lemon and

tea, with no success.

Thanks, a H.

> Hi a,

>

> > Eli has been on scd for one month. There has been no change in

his

> > psoriasis or constipation. He has been on stage3, all cooked

> foods.

> > I'm beginning to worry that he isn't getting any live foods. Is

it

> ok

> > to move on to raw fruits and vegetables, peeled, or do you

recommend

> > staying on the cooked stuff for a while longer? Also, of course,

> > there's more variety if you can eat raw foods.

>

> If he is still having constipation then raw fruits and vegetables

may

> just make it worse. Please see

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/constipation

_

> continued.htm

>

> Exactly What foods is he eating?

>

> Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> mom of , SCD 40 mos

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

> Here's his typical diet:

> We rotate proteins in a 5 day cycle- turkey, peas and extra nuts

and

> seed butter, chicken or hen, tuna and avocado, and salmon.

> For breakfast he almost always has cooked fruit topped with almond

> butter or baked with a nut flour crust, or with almond yogurt.

> Lunch is usually a lot of cooked vegetables, with some of his

protein

> for the day.

Did you start with the intro diet and then add foods or start with

the " Stage 3 " foods? Which vegetables are you using. Some even if

cooked may contribute to constipation (or diarrhea). It may help to

go back to the intro or to a very stripped down diet for a day or

two and then re-add foods to see if any of them are contributing to

the constipation. What are his constipation symptoms? Dry stools,

infrequent stools...?

> Dinner is the same as lunch.

> He's eating about 15 cups of almond yogurt a week.

> On occasion I make vegetable juice.

Is the veg. juice diluted?

Sheila

> Snacks are usually more cooked fruit, nut balls, or one of the

(egg

> free) cookie/candy recipes that are scd legal.

> Maybe you can see something that might help with his

constipation?

> We tried the prunes and the concentrated prune juice with lemon

and

> tea, with no success.

> Thanks, a H.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Hi a,

> >

> > > Eli has been on scd for one month. There has been no change

in

> his

> > > psoriasis or constipation. He has been on stage3, all cooked

> > foods.

> > > I'm beginning to worry that he isn't getting any live foods.

Is

> it

> > ok

> > > to move on to raw fruits and vegetables, peeled, or do you

> recommend

> > > staying on the cooked stuff for a while longer? Also, of

course,

> > > there's more variety if you can eat raw foods.

> >

> > If he is still having constipation then raw fruits and

vegetables

> may

> > just make it worse. Please see

> >

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/constipatio

n

> _

> > continued.htm

> >

> > Exactly What foods is he eating?

> >

> > Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> > mom of , SCD 40 mos

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

I'm not sure what the Intro diet is. We printed something off of the

website (5 stages), and started with Stage 1. Since there were so

few foods, we did that for 1 day. If we don't rotate, Eli developes

intolerances. We only did Stage 2 for one day as well, since most of

the additional foods were already a known problem for him (garlic,

mushroom, peppers, watercress)or unavailable when we were at that

stage (the winter squashes). So we've been at stage 3 for about 6

weeks now.

The vegetables he eats (all cooked and peeled) include all leafy

greens, summer and winter squash, tomato, asparagus, carrots, green

beans, beets, cabbage, cauliflower, celery, onion, peas, etc.

His constipation symptoms are little hard pellets, about once a day,

that are hard to push out.

When I do give him vegetable juices (about twice a week), I don't

dilute them. But he didn't have juices for the first month on the

diet anyway.

I don't believe the constipatinn is caused by any particular food.

He eats the foods that agree with him, that are scd legal. He has

been constipated for about 6 years.

I believe that my nutritionist figured something out today. He has

tested high in sodium on two seperate tests. He eats only sea salt,

and although we liberally salt our food (all spices and some herbs

don't agree with him), I believe we still consume less salt than most

people out there who eat chips, prepared foods, etc., so I don't know

why his sodium is so high. Be that as it may, she said that with

such high sodium, the body needs to pull water out of the tissues

from wherever it can, and might be pulling it out of the colon,

causing dry stools. Her recommendation is to discontinue the salt

for a little while, and load him up with water. I'm hoping for the

best. She makes a lot of sense.

Does anyone out there know why sodium would be so out of balance?

Thanks for your help, Sheila, I really appreciate your taking the

time.

a H.

> > > Hi a,

> > >

> > > > Eli has been on scd for one month. There has been no change

> in

> > his

> > > > psoriasis or constipation. He has been on stage3, all cooked

> > > foods.

> > > > I'm beginning to worry that he isn't getting any live foods.

> Is

> > it

> > > ok

> > > > to move on to raw fruits and vegetables, peeled, or do you

> > recommend

> > > > staying on the cooked stuff for a while longer? Also, of

> course,

> > > > there's more variety if you can eat raw foods.

> > >

> > > If he is still having constipation then raw fruits and

> vegetables

> > may

> > > just make it worse. Please see

> > >

> >

>

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/constipatio

> n

> > _

> > > continued.htm

> > >

> > > Exactly What foods is he eating?

> > >

> > > Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> > > mom of , SCD 40 mos

[Guest guest]

-How much water does he drink per day?

Jody

mom to -6 and -9

SCD 32 months

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

Here is the dairy free version of the intro diet.

http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro

The original intro(with dairy) is at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/the_intro_die

t2.htm and is also in the book, BTVC.

> Hi Sheila,

> I'm not sure what the Intro diet is. We printed something off of

the

> website (5 stages), and started with Stage 1. Since there were so

> few foods, we did that for 1 day.

Here is the dairy free version of the intro diet.

http://pecanbread.com/foodprep.html#intro

The original intro(with dairy) is at

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/the_intro_die

t2.htm and is also in the book, BTVC.

If we don't rotate, Eli developes

> intolerances. We only did Stage 2 for one day as well, since most

of

> the additional foods were already a known problem for him (garlic,

> mushroom, peppers, watercress)or unavailable when we were at that

> stage (the winter squashes). So we've been at stage 3 for about 6

> weeks now.

> The vegetables he eats (all cooked and peeled) include all leafy

> greens, summer and winter squash, tomato, asparagus, carrots,

green

> beans, beets, cabbage, cauliflower, celery, onion, peas, etc.

> His constipation symptoms are little hard pellets, about once a

day,

> that are hard to push out.

> When I do give him vegetable juices (about twice a week), I don't

> dilute them. But he didn't have juices for the first month on the

> diet anyway.

> I don't believe the constipatinn is caused by any particular

food.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/constipatio

n_continued.htm

> He eats the foods that agree with him, that are scd legal. He has

> been constipated for about 6 years.

> I believe that my nutritionist figured something out today. He

has

> tested high in sodium on two seperate tests.

If the salt /water balance thing doesn't help enough let me know and

we can go back and look at the food list. I have a few ideas.

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos