Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 My daughter, Kali, and I are both 95% SCD for 4 months and I have overcome giving her sleeping and behavior meds and her bm's have returned from constipation to that of an almost everyday sort. She is 5 and is now beginning to talk. I would say, the gains may take longer if you are not 100% compliant but, it is definitely worth trying to hit. Re: Is this an all-or-nothing deal? > > > Welcome to the list , > > > > > From what I have read so far, if you don't COMPLETELY, FULLY, 100% > > > follow the diet, it is no good. Am I understanding this > > correctly? > > > , > Yes! After five years of SCD I can attest there is a lot more " all " than there is " nothing. " :-) > > Carol F. > SCD 5 years, celiac > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 > I make chicken nuggets with chicken pieces cut up and rolled in fine ground blanched almond flour, some ground sage and salt as the coating. Some kids who don't like to chew may find ground chicken balls easier - make small balls flatten and bake to resemble nuggets. You may be able to coat this if you dip the flattened balls in egg or water first. [ Fox] Thanks for the suggestion, Sheila! As long as I can find something that resembles a chix nugget and that he'll actually like the taste of, then the diet seems more do-able. I've read all of the links you posted - I'll forward them on to hubby but I'm not keeping my hopes up with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 First, I can completely understand the family issues (I have a 5.5 yo NT child and a foodie husband), but what I always say when people ask me whether the diet is a hassle is that yes, it's a huge pain in the rear end, but not nearly as much of a pain as the behaviors that came from NOT doing the diet. For me, it's really been worthwhile, and I resisted doing any dietary intervention for the first 2 years after my son's diagnosis. [ Fox] You know, his behavior isn't bad. He's so mildly on the spectrum that I get flack from some family members who think I'm making the whole autism thing up just to create some drama. My goal here is to get rid of the stinky, smelly black stools, not to change his behavior. I do appreciate the muffin suggestion. When we were on the GFCF diet I bought a lot of the Kinnicknick muffins and I ended up eating them! I never thought to grind up meats and add them in - sounds gross! Finally, on the family front, I've taken a new view since we went to SCD. It's not realistic for me to have my whole family on the diet, so we just give my son his own food. That way, he's used to everyone else eating other stuff, and when he started school he doesn't have a problem with other kids eating different foods from him. At first it was hard, but since I never give in on it, he doesn't protest any more. [ Fox] How old is your son? Mine is 3 and an only child so I don't have to deal with other siblings, but my husband (and my in-laws) are not going to be able to tell him no when he says he wants some toast or 'fish' (goldfish crackers). They don't care if he has diarrhea as long as he's happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 My son was a VERY picky eater before the diet. He could not chew anything. I would have to feed him stage 2 & 3 baby jar foods, or anything I made had to be mashed enough where he could just swallow it whole. Within the 1-2 months of the diet he became more willing to try new foods, textures, etc.. Now, he doesn't have that chewing problem anymore. [ Fox] Wow - that's interesting. Did you ever think that it was sensory or did you know it was because the food tore up his gut? So what did you do when you started the diet? Wear out your food processor grinding everthing up? Regarding speech - he had no words before the diet - only babble. Within the first month he had 25 words - I stopped counting because I couldn't keep up with him. [ Fox] My son is delayed by one year in speech. We have made huge gains in the past year and he is now consistently using 4-5 word sentences. But he does not ask any questions yet. Just last night, he recited " Goodnight Moon " entirely on his own, as I turned the pages - I almost fell off my seat. [ Fox] way cool! Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 - My family does not understand my kids problems with food and they think I am obsessed about their bowels and behaviors. My one son was diagnosed with a rare form of colitis and I was told that both my sons could end up with Chrohn's disease. Both of my sisters are nurses and I got the diagnosis from a real doctor, but they still think that I just feed my kids too much fruit and fiber and this is why they have all the GI problems. You do what you know in your heart is best for your child. TGhe SCD diet has worked for my boys and their father eats a normal diet in front of them. My older son just started kindergarten and is offered snacks after game practices, and he politely tells people that he just can't eat these things, like Teddie Grams. You will get thru this fine and starting your child at a young age is a blessing. -Suzanne Fox lisa_fox@...> wrote: First, I can completely understand the family issues (I have a 5.5 yo NT child and a foodie husband), but what I always say when people ask me whether the diet is a hassle is that yes, it's a huge pain in the rear end, but not nearly as much of a pain as the behaviors that came from NOT doing the diet. For me, it's really been worthwhile, and I resisted doing any dietary intervention for the first 2 years after my son's diagnosis. [ Fox] You know, his behavior isn't bad. He's so mildly on the spectrum that I get flack from some family members who think I'm making the whole autism thing up just to create some drama. My goal here is to get rid of the stinky, smelly black stools, not to change his behavior. I do appreciate the muffin suggestion. When we were on the GFCF diet I bought a lot of the Kinnicknick muffins and I ended up eating them! I never thought to grind up meats and add them in - sounds gross! Finally, on the family front, I've taken a new view since we went to SCD. It's not realistic for me to have my whole family on the diet, so we just give my son his own food. That way, he's used to everyone else eating other stuff, and when he started school he doesn't have a problem with other kids eating different foods from him. At first it was hard, but since I never give in on it, he doesn't protest any more. [ Fox] How old is your son? Mine is 3 and an only child so I don't have to deal with other siblings, but my husband (and my in-laws) are not going to be able to tell him no when he says he wants some toast or 'fish' (goldfish crackers). They don't care if he has diarrhea as long as he's happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Thanks for the encouraging words, Suzanne! _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of Suzanne Wolcoff Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 7:13 PM To: pecanbread Subject: RE: Re: Is this an all-or-nothing deal? - My family does not understand my kids problems with food and they think I am obsessed about their bowels and behaviors. My one son was diagnosed with a rare form of colitis and I was told that both my sons could end up with Chrohn's disease. Both of my sisters are nurses and I got the diagnosis from a real doctor, but they still think that I just feed my kids too much fruit and fiber and this is why they have all the GI problems. You do what you know in your heart is best for your child. TGhe SCD diet has worked for my boys and their father eats a normal diet in front of them. My older son just started kindergarten and is offered snacks after game practices, and he politely tells people that he just can't eat these things, like Teddie Grams. You will get thru this fine and starting your child at a young age is a blessing. -Suzanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 This diet is time consuming, but the food at least tastes great and is healthy, unlike GFCF. [ Fox] Ok, I need some clarification, here! Are you saying that SCD is TASTY(!) unlike the GFCF diet? I have yet to make anything and I don't like almonds at all. I'm afraid the almond flour is going to have too strong of a taste. I'm also curious about the bread - every type we tried on the GFCF diet was absolutely terrible! Is the texture of the bread soft, but with an almond taste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Try the nut muffins and nut bread in the BTVC book. If you cook them in stoneware, they will be moist and not dry. They are very good, even tastier than many wheat muffins I've eaten. I also make pancakes using the following recipe: 3/4 cup ground nuts (grind almonds or other nuts in the blender until fine like flour) 2 eggs 1 mashed ripe banana or 1 chopped apple or ½ cup blueberries 1/2 tsp. baking soda 1/2 tsp honey 1 tsp. oil 1/8 tsp of cinnamon Water, almond milk, or fruit juice to thin, if necessary Mix all ingredients and drop by spoonfuls on non-stick, buttered, griddle. Flip when bubbles appear on top. If you really don't like almonds, try the above recipe with walnut or cashews. The banana/cashew are delicious. My daughter likes them plain without syrup. Marilyn daughter Kim-age 20 scd since April RE: Re: Is this an all-or-nothing deal? > This diet is time consuming, but the > food at least tastes great and is healthy, unlike GFCF. > > > > [ Fox] > Ok, I need some clarification, here! Are you saying that SCD is TASTY(!) > unlike the GFCF diet? I have yet to make anything and I don't like > almonds > at all. I'm afraid the almond flour is going to have too strong of a > taste. > I'm also curious about the bread - every type we tried on the GFCF diet > was > absolutely terrible! Is the texture of the bread soft, but with an almond > taste? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 my partner hates almonds with a passion, i make the almond bread from ground almonds and add honey - it takes the edge off the taste and he loves it???? hth emma Fox lisa_fox@...> wrote: This diet is time consuming, but the food at least tastes great and is healthy, unlike GFCF. [ Fox] Ok, I need some clarification, here! Are you saying that SCD is TASTY(!) unlike the GFCF diet? I have yet to make anything and I don't like almonds at all. I'm afraid the almond flour is going to have too strong of a taste. I'm also curious about the bread - every type we tried on the GFCF diet was absolutely terrible! Is the texture of the bread soft, but with an almond taste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I checked out the scdrecipe.com site and didn't catch that one. Thanks a million for leading me to it! _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of Sheila Trenholm Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 5:00 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Is this an all-or-nothing deal? Hi , > able to tell him no when he says he wants some toast or 'fish' (goldfish > crackers). They don't care if he has diarrhea as long as he's happy. If you are okay with some dairy there is a fantastic cracker recipe at http://www.scdrecipe.com/r_014_00082.html I haven't tasted goldfish crackers but some who have said they are very similar. They are a huge hit in my house and friends love them too. When I make them I omit the water and don't use the poppy or sesame seeds. I just sprinkle with some salt. Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC mom of , SCD 40 mos For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I checked out the scdrecipe.com site and didn't catch that one. Thanks a million for leading me to it! _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of Sheila Trenholm Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 5:00 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Is this an all-or-nothing deal? Hi , > able to tell him no when he says he wants some toast or 'fish' (goldfish > crackers). They don't care if he has diarrhea as long as he's happy. If you are okay with some dairy there is a fantastic cracker recipe at http://www.scdrecipe.com/r_014_00082.html I haven't tasted goldfish crackers but some who have said they are very similar. They are a huge hit in my house and friends love them too. When I make them I omit the water and don't use the poppy or sesame seeds. I just sprinkle with some salt. Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC mom of , SCD 40 mos For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I checked out the scdrecipe.com site and didn't catch that one. Thanks a million for leading me to it! _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of Sheila Trenholm Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 5:00 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Is this an all-or-nothing deal? Hi , > able to tell him no when he says he wants some toast or 'fish' (goldfish > crackers). They don't care if he has diarrhea as long as he's happy. If you are okay with some dairy there is a fantastic cracker recipe at http://www.scdrecipe.com/r_014_00082.html I haven't tasted goldfish crackers but some who have said they are very similar. They are a huge hit in my house and friends love them too. When I make them I omit the water and don't use the poppy or sesame seeds. I just sprinkle with some salt. Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC mom of , SCD 40 mos For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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