Guest guest Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Scientific studies have linked Xylitol to kidney stones and high oxalate levels. Many children with autism have high oxalate levels so it is better to stay away from that stuff. Do you want me to send you the links to the scientific articles in private email? Mimi Here is what Elaine said about Sucralose: http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ Splendia is a horrible sweetener. I am haunted by what the manufacturer has done to the sucrose molecule. Made it indigestible by putting in chemical bonds that not even a healthy person can break and adding a chlorine atom to each corner of the molecule. OH, boy, what a great new mutated bacterium will develop in the colon when that strange molecule gets down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hi Mimi Isn't Xylitol a monosaccharide? What is oxylate? I thought xylitol was good, it actually helps kill bacteria and reenamel the teeth. recoverymaze recoverymaze@...> wrote: Scientific studies have linked Xylitol to kidney stones and high oxalate levels. Many children with autism have high oxalate levels so it is better to stay away from that stuff. Do you want me to send you the links to the scientific articles in private email? Mimi Here is what Elaine said about Sucralose: http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ Splendia is a horrible sweetener. I am haunted by what the manufacturer has done to the sucrose molecule. Made it indigestible by putting in chemical bonds that not even a healthy person can break and adding a chlorine atom to each corner of the molecule. OH, boy, what a great new mutated bacterium will develop in the colon when that strange molecule gets down there. For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 , Xylitol is a sugar molecule that is very hard for our gut to digest. Oxalates are found in certain foods and may increase the chances for kidney stones. Owens wrote that some children with autism have high oxalates because of leaky guts. We hope to measure the oxalate levels of children who are doing SCD and see if SCD lowers the oxalate levels because SCD heals the leaky gut. Mimi > Scientific studies have linked Xylitol to kidney stones and high > oxalate levels. Many children with autism have high oxalate levels so > it is better to stay away from that stuff. > > Do you want me to send you the links to the scientific articles in > private email? > > Mimi > > > Here is what Elaine said about Sucralose: > http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ > > Splendia is a horrible sweetener. I am haunted by what the > manufacturer has done to the sucrose molecule. Made it indigestible by > putting in chemical bonds that not even a healthy person can break and > adding a chlorine atom to each corner of the molecule. OH, boy, what a > great new mutated bacterium will develop in the colon when that > strange molecule gets down there. > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Mimi, But why is xylitol hard to digest? ... isn't it a monosaccharide? verymaze recoverymaze@...> wrote: , Xylitol is a sugar molecule that is very hard for our gut to digest. Oxalates are found in certain foods and may increase the chances for kidney stones. Owens wrote that some children with autism have high oxalates because of leaky guts. We hope to measure the oxalate levels of children who are doing SCD and see if SCD lowers the oxalate levels because SCD heals the leaky gut. Mimi > Scientific studies have linked Xylitol to kidney stones and high > oxalate levels. Many children with autism have high oxalate levels so > it is better to stay away from that stuff. > > Do you want me to send you the links to the scientific articles in > private email? > > Mimi > > > Here is what Elaine said about Sucralose: > http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ > > Splendia is a horrible sweetener. I am haunted by what the > manufacturer has done to the sucrose molecule. Made it indigestible by > putting in chemical bonds that not even a healthy person can break and > adding a chlorine atom to each corner of the molecule. OH, boy, what a > great new mutated bacterium will develop in the colon when that > strange molecule gets down there. > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 , Here is the info from a SCD site: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html Xylitol t writes: Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. From http://wilstar.com/lowcarb/print-sugaralcohols.htm: " Sugar alcohols are chemically alcohols, but are derived from sugar molecules. They include sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol, lactitol, maltitol, and others. They vary in their sweetness, ranging from about half as sweet as sugar to about as sweet. Sugar alcohols, or polyols, may be used in place of sugar by most people on a low-carbohydrate diet or who have diabetes. Polyols are slowly and incompletely absorbed from the small intestine into the blood. Absorbed polyols are converted to energy by processes that require little or no insulin. Some of the polyol that is not absorbed into the blood is broken down into fatty acids in the large intestine. Since they are incompletely absorbed by the intestine, over-consumption may produce a laxative effect in some people. They are often used in " sugar free " candies and syrups. They have about half to three-fourths as many calories as sugar. " These are exactly the kind of sugars we want to avoid, because they are designed, literally, to stay in our gut and not be absorbed. We can't digest them, but they are beloved by the bugs that live in our guts. > Mimi, > > But why is xylitol hard to digest? ... isn't it a monosaccharide? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I noticed this last night on pecanbread.com site that Xylitol is a no-no. What I find interesting is that there are quite a few DAN! dr.'s out there (mine included) who want the child to do SCD and then order a Nystatin scrip mixed with Xylitol from a compounding pharmacy. I just spent $70 on my son's 2nd refill...... _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of recoverymaze Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:17 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Xylitol and Sucralose , Here is the info from a SCD site: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html Xylitol t writes: Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I noticed this last night on pecanbread.com site that Xylitol is a no-no. What I find interesting is that there are quite a few DAN! dr.'s out there (mine included) who want the child to do SCD and then order a Nystatin scrip mixed with Xylitol from a compounding pharmacy. I just spent $70 on my son's 2nd refill...... _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of recoverymaze Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:17 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Xylitol and Sucralose , Here is the info from a SCD site: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html Xylitol t writes: Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 I noticed this last night on pecanbread.com site that Xylitol is a no-no. What I find interesting is that there are quite a few DAN! dr.'s out there (mine included) who want the child to do SCD and then order a Nystatin scrip mixed with Xylitol from a compounding pharmacy. I just spent $70 on my son's 2nd refill...... _____ From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On Behalf Of recoverymaze Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:17 AM To: pecanbread Subject: Re: Xylitol and Sucralose , Here is the info from a SCD site: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html Xylitol t writes: Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 You can ask for the powder instead... I was given an rx for a powder for my ds. I'm guessing it's free of illegals but I will double check when we fill it. The powder and toothpick dose was the way they did nystatin 20 yrs ago (according to my pharmacist, who couldn't even fill the rx). I found that interesting... Robbie Re: Xylitol and Sucralose , Here is the info from a SCD site: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html Xylitol t writes: Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 You can ask for the powder instead... I was given an rx for a powder for my ds. I'm guessing it's free of illegals but I will double check when we fill it. The powder and toothpick dose was the way they did nystatin 20 yrs ago (according to my pharmacist, who couldn't even fill the rx). I found that interesting... Robbie Re: Xylitol and Sucralose , Here is the info from a SCD site: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html Xylitol t writes: Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 You can ask for the powder instead... I was given an rx for a powder for my ds. I'm guessing it's free of illegals but I will double check when we fill it. The powder and toothpick dose was the way they did nystatin 20 yrs ago (according to my pharmacist, who couldn't even fill the rx). I found that interesting... Robbie Re: Xylitol and Sucralose , Here is the info from a SCD site: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html Xylitol t writes: Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 > > > I noticed this last night on pecanbread.com site that Xylitol is a no-no. > What I find interesting is that there are quite a few DAN! dr.'s out there > (mine included) who want the child to do SCD and then order a Nystatin scrip > mixed with Xylitol from a compounding pharmacy. I just spent $70 on my > son's 2nd refill...... > Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. .. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/maltitol_mannitol.htm Carol F. SCD 5 years, Celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 > > > I noticed this last night on pecanbread.com site that Xylitol is a no-no. > What I find interesting is that there are quite a few DAN! dr.'s out there > (mine included) who want the child to do SCD and then order a Nystatin scrip > mixed with Xylitol from a compounding pharmacy. I just spent $70 on my > son's 2nd refill...... > Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. .. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/maltitol_mannitol.htm Carol F. SCD 5 years, Celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 > > > I noticed this last night on pecanbread.com site that Xylitol is a no-no. > What I find interesting is that there are quite a few DAN! dr.'s out there > (mine included) who want the child to do SCD and then order a Nystatin scrip > mixed with Xylitol from a compounding pharmacy. I just spent $70 on my > son's 2nd refill...... > Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD legal. .. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/maltitol_mannitol.htm Carol F. SCD 5 years, Celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Hi , Some SCD alternatives to sugar in prescriptions are saccharine, honey, fructose, dextrose (see notes in BTVC on medications Chapter 10) and perhaps a little glycerin . Sheila > I noticed this last night on pecanbread.com site that Xylitol is a no-no. > What I find interesting is that there are quite a few DAN! dr.'s out there > (mine included) who want the child to do SCD and then order a Nystatin scrip > mixed with Xylitol from a compounding pharmacy. I just spent $70 on my > son's 2nd refill...... > > > _____ > > From: pecanbread [mailto:pecanbread ] On > Behalf Of recoverymaze > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:17 AM > To: pecanbread > Subject: Re: Xylitol and Sucralose > > > , > > Here is the info from a SCD site: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/faq/xylitol.html > > Xylitol > > t writes: > Sorbitol, mannitol, and xylitol are all sugar alcohols and are not SCD > legal. They fall under the category of indigestible carbs and sugars, > and so allow companies to label things 'sugar free', even though they > are providing nutrition to the bacteria that live in your digestive tract. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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