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Hi Jenn,

> My daughter just went through a day when she had just one bm but,

it was

> soft and green.

" ...the color of the stool can become bizarre shades of green and

yellow. This color change is a good sign: bacterial metabolism is

CHANGING. The change is affecting the bile salts and therefore

affects the color of the stool. " from

http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

I thought she was getting something viral but, I'm not too

> sure. The next day she had green mucousy D 3 x's. I'm not sure if

this could

> be related to an impaction because the next day she has a medium

amt. of

> very loose light brown stool and then out came the mother load. All

> different colors. Could she have gotten something illegal? Could

this be due

> to die-off? Please respond and tell me what you think it could be

(any SCD

> veteran).

Some people go through periods of delayed die off. The various

colors of the stool would lean toward this.

Is it possible that she had illegals?

She has been on the diet for 4 months. She has always had

> constipation but, the diet has put her back on track or so I

thought. She

> will only eat the spicy walnut cookies and the peanut butter

brownies. Also,

Does she nothing else at all? If yes, then blending in veggies

would likely be a good idea.

Sheila

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Hi Jenn,

> My daughter just went through a day when she had just one bm but,

it was

> soft and green.

" ...the color of the stool can become bizarre shades of green and

yellow. This color change is a good sign: bacterial metabolism is

CHANGING. The change is affecting the bile salts and therefore

affects the color of the stool. " from

http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

I thought she was getting something viral but, I'm not too

> sure. The next day she had green mucousy D 3 x's. I'm not sure if

this could

> be related to an impaction because the next day she has a medium

amt. of

> very loose light brown stool and then out came the mother load. All

> different colors. Could she have gotten something illegal? Could

this be due

> to die-off? Please respond and tell me what you think it could be

(any SCD

> veteran).

Some people go through periods of delayed die off. The various

colors of the stool would lean toward this.

Is it possible that she had illegals?

She has been on the diet for 4 months. She has always had

> constipation but, the diet has put her back on track or so I

thought. She

> will only eat the spicy walnut cookies and the peanut butter

brownies. Also,

Does she nothing else at all? If yes, then blending in veggies

would likely be a good idea.

Sheila

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Sheila,

Thank you for the response. I didn't think anyone was listening. I found out

what may have caused this. She had a lot of pumpkin seeds one day for lunch

about 3 days ago. I think I was told somewhere that carrot juice and pumpkin

seeds were natural detox foods. The same kind of thing happened when I first

introduced carrot juice to her. It definitely could be die-off. She has

become extremely out of tune and hyper since she passed all this. I gave her

epsom salts baths. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks. Jenn & Kali 95%

SCD 4 months Original Message -----

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:19 AM

Subject: Re: BM

> Hi Jenn,

>

> > My daughter just went through a day when she had just one bm but,

> it was

> > soft and green.

>

> " ...the color of the stool can become bizarre shades of green and

> yellow. This color change is a good sign: bacterial metabolism is

> CHANGING. The change is affecting the bile salts and therefore

> affects the color of the stool. " from

> http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

>

>

>

>

> I thought she was getting something viral but, I'm not too

> > sure. The next day she had green mucousy D 3 x's. I'm not sure if

> this could

> > be related to an impaction because the next day she has a medium

> amt. of

> > very loose light brown stool and then out came the mother load. All

> > different colors. Could she have gotten something illegal? Could

> this be due

> > to die-off? Please respond and tell me what you think it could be

> (any SCD

> > veteran).

>

> Some people go through periods of delayed die off. The various

> colors of the stool would lean toward this.

>

> Is it possible that she had illegals?

>

> She has been on the diet for 4 months. She has always had

> > constipation but, the diet has put her back on track or so I

> thought. She

> > will only eat the spicy walnut cookies and the peanut butter

> brownies. Also,

>

> Does she nothing else at all? If yes, then blending in veggies

> would likely be a good idea.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Sheila,

Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot juice, peanut butter

brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice, tropicana OJ, water,

jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic fruits & veggies

& " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I ran out of

starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is legal to use as a

starter? She won't expand her tastes so we seem to be stuck right here. She

would not do the intro. diet and hasn't started with cooked fruits and

veggies because of texture reasons. She has never had D problems until just

a bout recently but seems to have bounced back. Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:19 AM

Subject: Re: BM

> Hi Jenn,

>

> > My daughter just went through a day when she had just one bm but,

> it was

> > soft and green.

>

> " ...the color of the stool can become bizarre shades of green and

> yellow. This color change is a good sign: bacterial metabolism is

> CHANGING. The change is affecting the bile salts and therefore

> affects the color of the stool. " from

> http://pecanbread.com/badreaction.html

>

>

>

>

> I thought she was getting something viral but, I'm not too

> > sure. The next day she had green mucousy D 3 x's. I'm not sure if

> this could

> > be related to an impaction because the next day she has a medium

> amt. of

> > very loose light brown stool and then out came the mother load. All

> > different colors. Could she have gotten something illegal? Could

> this be due

> > to die-off? Please respond and tell me what you think it could be

> (any SCD

> > veteran).

>

> Some people go through periods of delayed die off. The various

> colors of the stool would lean toward this.

>

> Is it possible that she had illegals?

>

> She has been on the diet for 4 months. She has always had

> > constipation but, the diet has put her back on track or so I

> thought. She

> > will only eat the spicy walnut cookies and the peanut butter

> brownies. Also,

>

> Does she nothing else at all? If yes, then blending in veggies

> would likely be a good idea.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Hi Jenn,

> Sheila,

> Thank you for the response. I didn't think anyone was listening. I

found out

> what may have caused this. She had a lot of pumpkin seeds one day

for lunch

> about 3 days ago. I think I was told somewhere that carrot juice

and pumpkin

> seeds were natural detox foods.

Elaine warned about using too much seeds because they contain small

amounts of cyanide and have extra fiber...

Check out:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds.htm

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seed_butter

s.htm

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds_and_s

eed_flours.htm

Epsom salt baths are a good idea, also keeping her diet simple until

the worst has passed.

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

The same kind of thing happened when I first

> introduced carrot juice to her. It definitely could be die-off.

She has

> become extremely out of tune and hyper since she passed all this.

I gave her

> epsom salts baths. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks. Jenn &

Kali 95%

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Hi Jenn,

> Sheila,

> Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot juice,

peanut butter

> brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice, tropicana OJ,

water,

> jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic fruits

& veggies

> & " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I ran out

of

> starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is legal to

use as a

> starter?

Depends on the ingredients and bacterial cultures. If memeory

serves me correctly I think it contains bifidum bacteria which is

not one of the suggested strains.

With the diarrhea you could try making the food a bit easier to

digest and see if that helps : peel the apples,destring the celery -

until her bowels are better.

Let us know how she's doing.

Sheila

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What then, would be good to use as a stool softener without the use of

prunes, pureed fruit, and she just doesn't eat veggies at all right now

besides carrots? Jenn & Kali 95% scd 4 months

Re: BM

> Hi Jenn,

>

> > Sheila,

> > Thank you for the response. I didn't think anyone was listening. I

> found out

> > what may have caused this. She had a lot of pumpkin seeds one day

> for lunch

> > about 3 days ago. I think I was told somewhere that carrot juice

> and pumpkin

> > seeds were natural detox foods.

>

> Elaine warned about using too much seeds because they contain small

> amounts of cyanide and have extra fiber...

> Check out:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds.htm

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seed_butter

> s.htm

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds_and_s

> eed_flours.htm

>

> Epsom salt baths are a good idea, also keeping her diet simple until

> the worst has passed.

>

> Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> mom of , SCD 40 mos

>

> The same kind of thing happened when I first

> > introduced carrot juice to her. It definitely could be die-off.

> She has

> > become extremely out of tune and hyper since she passed all this.

> I gave her

> > epsom salts baths. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks. Jenn &

> Kali 95%

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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The diareah has passed but, I am still wondering about how much stool she

actually passed. It was just way too much for just a little girl. I wonder

if maybe she was constipated and when I gave her the seeds, they helped her

go.She doesn't get a lot of fiber in her diet as you can see from the foods

I listed. How can I get her to eat new things without gagging and throwing

up?

Re: BM

> Hi Jenn,

>

> > Sheila,

> > Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot juice,

> peanut butter

> > brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice, tropicana OJ,

> water,

> > jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic fruits

> & veggies

> > & " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I ran out

> of

> > starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is legal to

> use as a

> > starter?

>

> Depends on the ingredients and bacterial cultures. If memeory

> serves me correctly I think it contains bifidum bacteria which is

> not one of the suggested strains.

>

> With the diarrhea you could try making the food a bit easier to

> digest and see if that helps : peel the apples,destring the celery -

> until her bowels are better.

>

> Let us know how she's doing.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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sheila,

why isn't bifidum a recommended strain of bacteria to use in the

yogurt starter? Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months.

Re: BM

> Hi Jenn,

>

> > Sheila,

> > Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot juice,

> peanut butter

> > brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice, tropicana OJ,

> water,

> > jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic fruits

> & veggies

> > & " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I ran out

> of

> > starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is legal to

> use as a

> > starter?

>

> Depends on the ingredients and bacterial cultures. If memeory

> serves me correctly I think it contains bifidum bacteria which is

> not one of the suggested strains.

>

> With the diarrhea you could try making the food a bit easier to

> digest and see if that helps : peel the apples,destring the celery -

> until her bowels are better.

>

> Let us know how she's doing.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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> sheila,

> why isn't bifidum a recommended strain of bacteria to use in the

> yogurt starter? Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months.

In general avoid anything that has bifid in its name.

Do not use the eating batches to ferment other batches or undesirable strains

will creep

in or the existing bacteria can mutate.

(from BTVC)

Carol F.

SCD 5 years, cliac

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Hi Jenn,

I thought she was having diarrhea?

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

> What then, would be good to use as a stool softener without the

use of

> prunes, pureed fruit, and she just doesn't eat veggies at all

right now

> besides carrots? Jenn & Kali 95% scd 4 months

> Re: BM

>

>

> > Hi Jenn,

> >

> > > Sheila,

> > > Thank you for the response. I didn't think anyone was

listening. I

> > found out

> > > what may have caused this. She had a lot of pumpkin seeds one

day

> > for lunch

> > > about 3 days ago. I think I was told somewhere that carrot

juice

> > and pumpkin

> > > seeds were natural detox foods.

> >

> > Elaine warned about using too much seeds because they contain

small

> > amounts of cyanide and have extra fiber...

> > Check out:

> >

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds.htm

> >

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seed_butter

> > s.htm

> >

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds_and_s

> > eed_flours.htm

> >

> > Epsom salt baths are a good idea, also keeping her diet simple

until

> > the worst has passed.

> >

> > Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> > mom of , SCD 40 mos

> >

> > The same kind of thing happened when I first

> > > introduced carrot juice to her. It definitely could be die-off.

> > She has

> > > become extremely out of tune and hyper since she passed all

this.

> > I gave her

> > > epsom salts baths. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks.

Jenn &

> > Kali 95%

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

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Hi Jenn,

Bifidum tends to overgrow - which causes all sorts of gastro

trouble.... We don't want any bacteria to take over, we're looking

for balance.

See

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm

Some asked this recently and there were a number of responses that

confirmed it happening. You can search for these posts by putting

either bifidum or bifidus in the search box at the top of the page

when reading emails at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/messages

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

> why isn't bifidum a recommended strain of bacteria to use

in the

> yogurt starter? Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months.

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Hi Jenn,

Does she like pancakes? You could try making the sneaky pancakes to

get her to up her veggie amount. The recipe is at

http://pecanbread.com/recipes.html under

the pancake section.

Increasing the veggetable amount will increase her fiber and should

do it without causing diarrhea from an overload of fiber as the

seeds did.

Passing that much so fast is not a good thing. It may have cleared

her out but it won't give her body to get nutrients etc. from the

food. And she can become dehydrated.

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

> The diareah has passed but, I am still wondering about how much

stool she

> actually passed. It was just way too much for just a little girl.

I wonder

> if maybe she was constipated and when I gave her the seeds, they

helped her

> go.She doesn't get a lot of fiber in her diet as you can see from

the foods

> I listed. How can I get her to eat new things without gagging and

throwing

> up?

> Re: BM

>

>

> > Hi Jenn,

> >

> > > Sheila,

> > > Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot juice,

> > peanut butter

> > > brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice, tropicana

OJ,

> > water,

> > > jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic

fruits

> > & veggies

> > > & " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I ran

out

> > of

> > > starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is

legal to

> > use as a

> > > starter?

> >

> > Depends on the ingredients and bacterial cultures. If memeory

> > serves me correctly I think it contains bifidum bacteria which is

> > not one of the suggested strains.

> >

> > With the diarrhea you could try making the food a bit easier to

> > digest and see if that helps : peel the apples,destring the

celery -

> > until her bowels are better.

> >

> > Let us know how she's doing.

> >

> > Sheila

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

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Sheila,

Most of the time she has trouble with constipation but, it goes back

and forth. She just did this past week have a terrible episode of D. 3-4

days worth. I was trying to figure out why but, then I thought of the

pumpkin seeds which I saw in her stool. So, I guess I would like to know

both what to give her for the constipation and the D. Her constipation has

gotten better with the diet but, I was thinking maybe enzymes or...?Jenn &

Kali 95% SCD 4 months

Re: BM

> >

> >

> > > Hi Jenn,

> > >

> > > > Sheila,

> > > > Thank you for the response. I didn't think anyone was

> listening. I

> > > found out

> > > > what may have caused this. She had a lot of pumpkin seeds one

> day

> > > for lunch

> > > > about 3 days ago. I think I was told somewhere that carrot

> juice

> > > and pumpkin

> > > > seeds were natural detox foods.

> > >

> > > Elaine warned about using too much seeds because they contain

> small

> > > amounts of cyanide and have extra fiber...

> > > Check out:

> > >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds.htm

> > >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seed_butter

> > > s.htm

> > >

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/seeds_and_s

> > > eed_flours.htm

> > >

> > > Epsom salt baths are a good idea, also keeping her diet simple

> until

> > > the worst has passed.

> > >

> > > Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> > > mom of , SCD 40 mos

> > >

> > > The same kind of thing happened when I first

> > > > introduced carrot juice to her. It definitely could be die-off.

> > > She has

> > > > become extremely out of tune and hyper since she passed all

> this.

> > > I gave her

> > > > epsom salts baths. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks.

> Jenn &

> > > Kali 95%

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book

> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

> > websites:

> > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > > and

> > > http://www.pecanbread.com

> > >

> > >

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I can get her to eat pancakes every other week once maybe. She doesn't like

honey and I don't know what to sub for the syrup. They have to be almond

pancakes and the taste needs to be covered up with the syrup. I am

struggling to get her to move forward but, she won't due to textures and

tastes. Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months

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> >

> >

> > > Hi Jenn,

> > >

> > > > Sheila,

> > > > Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot juice,

> > > peanut butter

> > > > brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice, tropicana

> OJ,

> > > water,

> > > > jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic

> fruits

> > > & veggies

> > > > & " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I ran

> out

> > > of

> > > > starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is

> legal to

> > > use as a

> > > > starter?

> > >

> > > Depends on the ingredients and bacterial cultures. If memeory

> > > serves me correctly I think it contains bifidum bacteria which is

> > > not one of the suggested strains.

> > >

> > > With the diarrhea you could try making the food a bit easier to

> > > digest and see if that helps : peel the apples,destring the

> celery -

> > > until her bowels are better.

> > >

> > > Let us know how she's doing.

> > >

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book

> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

> > websites:

> > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > > and

> > > http://www.pecanbread.com

> > >

> > >

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This may be a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can use only

acidophilus (crushed tabs) for the yogurt culture? Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4

months

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> Hi Jenn,

>

> Bifidum tends to overgrow - which causes all sorts of gastro

> trouble.... We don't want any bacteria to take over, we're looking

> for balance.

>

> See

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm

>

> Some asked this recently and there were a number of responses that

> confirmed it happening. You can search for these posts by putting

> either bifidum or bifidus in the search box at the top of the page

> when reading emails at

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/messages

>

> Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> mom of , SCD 40 mos

> > why isn't bifidum a recommended strain of bacteria to use

> in the

> > yogurt starter? Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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Hi Jenn,

> Sheila,

> Most of the time she has trouble with constipation but, it goes

back

> and forth. She just did this past week have a terrible episode of D.

3-4

> days worth. I was trying to figure out why but, then I thought of the

> pumpkin seeds which I saw in her stool. So, I guess I would like to

know

> both what to give her for the constipation and the D. Her

constipation has

> gotten better with the diet but, I was thinking maybe enzymes or...?

Jenn &

Elaine wrote that bowel issues can swing back and forth between

constipation and diarrhea while healing.

It would be good if you can increase vegetables (peeled and cooked).

As in the sneaky pancake suggestion I made. Also increasing the

amount of fluids she receives.

It is important to peel and cook fruit and veggies because since she

isn't ready for the harder to digest fiber it will feed microbes and

worsen the constipation.

It is good to hear that the diet is helping with the constipation.

Is she taking any supplements? Calcium, magnesium, vitamin C etc..

Some enzymes may help, hopefully some people will make suggestions.

Sheila

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Hi Jenn,

> Sheila,

> Most of the time she has trouble with constipation but, it goes

back

> and forth. She just did this past week have a terrible episode of D.

3-4

> days worth. I was trying to figure out why but, then I thought of the

> pumpkin seeds which I saw in her stool. So, I guess I would like to

know

> both what to give her for the constipation and the D. Her

constipation has

> gotten better with the diet but, I was thinking maybe enzymes or...?

Jenn &

Elaine wrote that bowel issues can swing back and forth between

constipation and diarrhea while healing.

It would be good if you can increase vegetables (peeled and cooked).

As in the sneaky pancake suggestion I made. Also increasing the

amount of fluids she receives.

It is important to peel and cook fruit and veggies because since she

isn't ready for the harder to digest fiber it will feed microbes and

worsen the constipation.

It is good to hear that the diet is helping with the constipation.

Is she taking any supplements? Calcium, magnesium, vitamin C etc..

Some enzymes may help, hopefully some people will make suggestions.

Sheila

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Hi Jenn,

Will she eat jam? I usually have jam with pancakes instead of

honey. I simmer strawberries or blueberries etc. until soft and

then run them through a food press to remove most of the seeds...

You can add honey at this point to sweeten to taste. If you want it

very smooth you could put it in a food processor or blender before

the food mill (or seive/strainer with small holes)

Sheila

> I can get her to eat pancakes every other week once maybe. She

doesn't like

> honey and I don't know what to sub for the syrup. They have to be

almond

> pancakes and the taste needs to be covered up with the syrup. I am

> struggling to get her to move forward but, she won't due to

textures and

> tastes. Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months

> Re: BM

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi Jenn,

> > > >

> > > > > Sheila,

> > > > > Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot

juice,

> > > > peanut butter

> > > > > brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice,

tropicana

> > OJ,

> > > > water,

> > > > > jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic

> > fruits

> > > > & veggies

> > > > > & " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I

ran

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is

> > legal to

> > > > use as a

> > > > > starter?

> > > >

> > > > Depends on the ingredients and bacterial cultures. If

memeory

> > > > serves me correctly I think it contains bifidum bacteria

which is

> > > > not one of the suggested strains.

> > > >

> > > > With the diarrhea you could try making the food a bit easier

to

> > > > digest and see if that helps : peel the apples,destring the

> > celery -

> > > > until her bowels are better.

> > > >

> > > > Let us know how she's doing.

> > > >

> > > > Sheila

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please

read

> > the book

> > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> > following

> > > websites:

> > > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > > > and

> > > > http://www.pecanbread.com

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Jenn,

Will she eat jam? I usually have jam with pancakes instead of

honey. I simmer strawberries or blueberries etc. until soft and

then run them through a food press to remove most of the seeds...

You can add honey at this point to sweeten to taste. If you want it

very smooth you could put it in a food processor or blender before

the food mill (or seive/strainer with small holes)

Sheila

> I can get her to eat pancakes every other week once maybe. She

doesn't like

> honey and I don't know what to sub for the syrup. They have to be

almond

> pancakes and the taste needs to be covered up with the syrup. I am

> struggling to get her to move forward but, she won't due to

textures and

> tastes. Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months

> Re: BM

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi Jenn,

> > > >

> > > > > Sheila,

> > > > > Kali eats, eggs, chicken, raw apples, raw celery, arrot

juice,

> > > > peanut butter

> > > > > brownies, spicy walnut cookies, welch's grape juice,

tropicana

> > OJ,

> > > > water,

> > > > > jello, and sometimes steak and raw carrots. We use organic

> > fruits

> > > > & veggies

> > > > > & " free range " meat. She was on the homemade yogurt but, I

ran

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > starter. I was wondering if the stonyfield farms brand is

> > legal to

> > > > use as a

> > > > > starter?

> > > >

> > > > Depends on the ingredients and bacterial cultures. If

memeory

> > > > serves me correctly I think it contains bifidum bacteria

which is

> > > > not one of the suggested strains.

> > > >

> > > > With the diarrhea you could try making the food a bit easier

to

> > > > digest and see if that helps : peel the apples,destring the

> > celery -

> > > > until her bowels are better.

> > > >

> > > > Let us know how she's doing.

> > > >

> > > > Sheila

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please

read

> > the book

> > > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> > following

> > > websites:

> > > > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > > > and

> > > > http://www.pecanbread.com

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Jenn,

> This may be a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can use

only

> acidophilus (crushed tabs) for the yogurt culture?

No, you need Streptococcos thermophilus and Lactobacillus bulgaricus

to make a true yoghurt. Elaine said it was okay to also have L.

acidophilus or L. casei (as in the GI ProHealth starter.)

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Hi Jenn,

> This may be a stupid question, but I was wondering if you can use

only

> acidophilus (crushed tabs) for the yogurt culture?

No, you need Streptococcos thermophilus and Lactobacillus bulgaricus

to make a true yoghurt. Elaine said it was okay to also have L.

acidophilus or L. casei (as in the GI ProHealth starter.)

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Sheila,

I tried to sneak some zucchini in my muffins but, she still won't eat

any of my baked goods except for the peanut butter brownies and the spicy

walnut cookies. She picks the nuts out of the cookies and leaves the rest.

She also just picks at the brownies but, eats more of them than the cookies.

She does drink an extreme amt. everyday. Peeing at least 20 x's a day- not

exaggerating! I know her constipation can't be caused from not drinking

enough. We haven't put her on any supplements yet. I am trying to

find the right ones and the right dose. How do you know if your child needs

supplements? Can't some supplements get held up in the body and make you

sick? I tried to get her tested to see if she needs more of something

(vitamins & minerals). I cannot find a Dr. that will do this. We cannot use

any Dr.'s that don't take medicaid because we can't afford treatment. It's

been extremely difficult to keep her on this diet because it is more

expensive than the traditional american food we were eating before. I can't

even get the yogurt starter right now. Thank you for all your help. Anyone

respond. Jenn & Kali 95% SCD 4 months cessage -----

To: pecanbread >

Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:20 PM

Subject: Re: BM

> Hi Jenn,

>

> > Sheila,

> > Most of the time she has trouble with constipation but, it goes

> back

> > and forth. She just did this past week have a terrible episode of D.

> 3-4

> > days worth. I was trying to figure out why but, then I thought of the

> > pumpkin seeds which I saw in her stool. So, I guess I would like to

> know

> > both what to give her for the constipation and the D. Her

> constipation has

> > gotten better with the diet but, I was thinking maybe enzymes or...?

> Jenn &

>

> Elaine wrote that bowel issues can swing back and forth between

> constipation and diarrhea while healing.

>

> It would be good if you can increase vegetables (peeled and cooked).

> As in the sneaky pancake suggestion I made. Also increasing the

> amount of fluids she receives.

>

> It is important to peel and cook fruit and veggies because since she

> isn't ready for the harder to digest fiber it will feed microbes and

> worsen the constipation.

>

> It is good to hear that the diet is helping with the constipation.

>

> Is she taking any supplements? Calcium, magnesium, vitamin C etc..

> Some enzymes may help, hopefully some people will make suggestions.

>

> Sheila

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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