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Hi ,

> We cut out pecan nuts for 2 weeks, thinking that they might be

> contributing to my son's " sour " smelling stools & feeding

microbes.

> Result was = his stools lessened (every 2nd day) & became harder,

> BUT the smell did decrease, almost gone. However, lack of nuts

lead

> to a more distended tummy.

Can you use blanched ground almonds or blanched grd. hazelnuts

(filberts), or macadamias. Some people have trouble with the skins

on the pecans/walnuts.

>

> I re-added nuts & within 1 day he passed 4 " very sour " smelling

> stools. This sounds bad, but I noticed an almost " mucous " looking

> substance in these stools with a couple of undigested peas. I've

> continued with the nuts & the " mucous " substance has disappeared,

> the stools are still sour smelling, but not as bad and his

> distention has reduced.

>

> However, to aid to confusion, since he started the goat yogurt on

> Saturday (still on nuts), his tummy is more distended again.

Is that his first time with the goat yoghurt? How much did he start

with? What starter?

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Hi Shelia,

I hope you are feeling better now.

I can buy Macadamias, not sure about the others though.

Why do you think Josh had the mucous like substance in his stools

when I reintroduced the nuts? I thought that the nuts helped to pass

out a build of " gunk " which built up while he was not eating them.

He has been eating the nuts for approx. 1 week now and the stool

smell has reduced & there is no evidence of this mucous substance or

undigested food.

First time with the yogurt & I started him on Saturday with 1

teaspoon & am now up to 2 teaspoons. I used the Custom Probiotics

starter, because getting a starter to South Africa is not easy.

How do I know if the yogurt is any good/beneficial? It tastes very

sour. Can I flavour it?

Thanks

> Hi ,

>

> > We cut out pecan nuts for 2 weeks, thinking that they might be

> > contributing to my son's " sour " smelling stools & feeding

> microbes.

> > Result was = his stools lessened (every 2nd day) & became harder,

> > BUT the smell did decrease, almost gone. However, lack of nuts

> lead

> > to a more distended tummy.

>

> Can you use blanched ground almonds or blanched grd. hazelnuts

> (filberts), or macadamias. Some people have trouble with the skins

> on the pecans/walnuts.

> >

> > I re-added nuts & within 1 day he passed 4 " very sour " smelling

> > stools. This sounds bad, but I noticed an almost " mucous "

looking

> > substance in these stools with a couple of undigested peas. I've

> > continued with the nuts & the " mucous " substance has disappeared,

> > the stools are still sour smelling, but not as bad and his

> > distention has reduced.

> >

> > However, to aid to confusion, since he started the goat yogurt on

> > Saturday (still on nuts), his tummy is more distended again.

>

> Is that his first time with the goat yoghurt? How much did he

start

> with? What starter?

>

> Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Hi ,

> Hi Shelia,

>

> I hope you are feeling better now.

Thanks. I am feeling quite a bit better than the last few weeks.

> I can buy Macadamias, not sure about the others though.

I suggested those nuts because you can remove the skins from the

nuts before grinding.

> Why do you think Josh had the mucous like substance in his stools

> when I reintroduced the nuts?

The mucous may have been there with the stool he wasn't passing. Or

even a reaction to the clearing out that occured with readding the

nuts.

I thought that the nuts helped to pass

> out a build of " gunk " which built up while he was not eating

them.

> He has been eating the nuts for approx. 1 week now and the stool

> smell has reduced & there is no evidence of this mucous substance

or

> undigested food.

Nuts can help to clear stuff out - if you are ready for them. It is

a good sign that the sour smell is still reducing and that there

isn't mucous anymore.

>

> First time with the yogurt & I started him on Saturday with 1

> teaspoon & am now up to 2 teaspoons. I used the Custom Probiotics

> starter, because getting a starter to South Africa is not easy.

Is his tummy still distended. If yes, you can try dripping the

yoghurt and/or slowing down on the amounts of yoghurt or cutting

back a little. It can cause some die off symptoms (including gas)

and slowing or reducing may help with the distention.

It sounds as if you are heading in the right direction. I am glad

to know that his bowels are continuing to improve with the reintro

of nuts and the addition of yoghurt.

> How do I know if the yogurt is any good/beneficial? It tastes very

> sour.

If you used the correct yoghurt cultures, yogurt making directions

(24 hrs etc.) and it tastes sour then it should be good :)

> Can I flavour it?

Yes, you can add honey fruit, spices etc. Just don't cook it or it

will kill the bacteria. Freezing doesn't kill all but many/most of

the good bacteria. I make yoghurt smoothies with yoghurt, ripe

fruit and honey. Or a bowl of yoghurt with fruit cut up and mixed

in. Dripping it will reduce some of the tartness. I also us the

yoghurt to make savoury dips and dressing like Marilyn's Ranch

dressing.

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Dear Sheila,

Josh has been on the yogurt for 1 week and 2 days now. I started him

on 1 teaspoon & increased it to 2 after two days, however, when his

tummy became so distended, I decreased back to 1 teaspoon & he is

still on 1 teaspoon. His tummy has come down dramatically, probably

the lowest it has ever been. His rocking, tantrums, biting hands

etc. are still aggravated. Do I leave him on 1 teaspoon for now or

do I move up a notch?

How much yogurt do you use in the smoothie?

If & when you get time, can you plse look at that Word doc I sent re

his food & meals per day? I lack idea's & although there are many

receipes available, it is not so easy to know where to start.

Thanks

> Hi ,

>

> > Hi Shelia,

> >

> > I hope you are feeling better now.

>

> Thanks. I am feeling quite a bit better than the last few weeks.

>

> > I can buy Macadamias, not sure about the others though.

>

> I suggested those nuts because you can remove the skins from the

> nuts before grinding.

>

> > Why do you think Josh had the mucous like substance in his stools

> > when I reintroduced the nuts?

>

> The mucous may have been there with the stool he wasn't passing. Or

> even a reaction to the clearing out that occured with readding the

> nuts.

>

> I thought that the nuts helped to pass

> > out a build of " gunk " which built up while he was not eating

> them.

> > He has been eating the nuts for approx. 1 week now and the stool

> > smell has reduced & there is no evidence of this mucous substance

> or

> > undigested food.

>

> Nuts can help to clear stuff out - if you are ready for them. It

is

> a good sign that the sour smell is still reducing and that there

> isn't mucous anymore.

>

> >

> > First time with the yogurt & I started him on Saturday with 1

> > teaspoon & am now up to 2 teaspoons. I used the Custom

Probiotics

> > starter, because getting a starter to South Africa is not easy.

>

> Is his tummy still distended. If yes, you can try dripping the

> yoghurt and/or slowing down on the amounts of yoghurt or cutting

> back a little. It can cause some die off symptoms (including gas)

> and slowing or reducing may help with the distention.

>

> It sounds as if you are heading in the right direction. I am glad

> to know that his bowels are continuing to improve with the reintro

> of nuts and the addition of yoghurt.

>

> > How do I know if the yogurt is any good/beneficial? It tastes

very

> > sour.

>

> If you used the correct yoghurt cultures, yogurt making directions

> (24 hrs etc.) and it tastes sour then it should be good :)

>

> > Can I flavour it?

> Yes, you can add honey fruit, spices etc. Just don't cook it or it

> will kill the bacteria. Freezing doesn't kill all but many/most of

> the good bacteria. I make yoghurt smoothies with yoghurt, ripe

> fruit and honey. Or a bowl of yoghurt with fruit cut up and mixed

> in. Dripping it will reduce some of the tartness. I also us the

> yoghurt to make savoury dips and dressing like Marilyn's Ranch

> dressing.

>

> Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

> mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Hi ,

> Josh has been on the yogurt for 1 week and 2 days now. I started

him

> on 1 teaspoon & increased it to 2 after two days, however, when his

> tummy became so distended, I decreased back to 1 teaspoon & he is

> still on 1 teaspoon. His tummy has come down dramatically, probably

> the lowest it has ever been. His rocking, tantrums, biting hands

> etc. are still aggravated. Do I leave him on 1 teaspoon for now or

> do I move up a notch?

You could try 1.5 tsp. The rocking etc. may be from die off or

constipation. You could try epsom salt baths to see if they help.

> How much yogurt do you use in the smoothie?

When I make the smoothie I don't measure but use a little than 1

litre of yoghurt and two large ripe bananas (I buy them and freeze in

large quantities when ripe). I don't sweeten it for me , but add a

little honey for the kids and hubby.

> If & when you get time, can you plse look at that Word doc I sent

re

> his food & meals per day? I lack idea's & although there are many

> receipes available, it is not so easy to know where to start.

I'll try to today and will get back to you. If you don't hear from

me later today, write me off list to remind me.

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Hi ,

> Josh has been on the yogurt for 1 week and 2 days now. I started

him

> on 1 teaspoon & increased it to 2 after two days, however, when his

> tummy became so distended, I decreased back to 1 teaspoon & he is

> still on 1 teaspoon. His tummy has come down dramatically, probably

> the lowest it has ever been. His rocking, tantrums, biting hands

> etc. are still aggravated. Do I leave him on 1 teaspoon for now or

> do I move up a notch?

You could try 1.5 tsp. The rocking etc. may be from die off or

constipation. You could try epsom salt baths to see if they help.

> How much yogurt do you use in the smoothie?

When I make the smoothie I don't measure but use a little than 1

litre of yoghurt and two large ripe bananas (I buy them and freeze in

large quantities when ripe). I don't sweeten it for me , but add a

little honey for the kids and hubby.

> If & when you get time, can you plse look at that Word doc I sent

re

> his food & meals per day? I lack idea's & although there are many

> receipes available, it is not so easy to know where to start.

I'll try to today and will get back to you. If you don't hear from

me later today, write me off list to remind me.

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

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Hi ,

> Josh has been on the yogurt for 1 week and 2 days now. I started

him

> on 1 teaspoon & increased it to 2 after two days, however, when his

> tummy became so distended, I decreased back to 1 teaspoon & he is

> still on 1 teaspoon. His tummy has come down dramatically, probably

> the lowest it has ever been. His rocking, tantrums, biting hands

> etc. are still aggravated. Do I leave him on 1 teaspoon for now or

> do I move up a notch?

You could try 1.5 tsp. The rocking etc. may be from die off or

constipation. You could try epsom salt baths to see if they help.

> How much yogurt do you use in the smoothie?

When I make the smoothie I don't measure but use a little than 1

litre of yoghurt and two large ripe bananas (I buy them and freeze in

large quantities when ripe). I don't sweeten it for me , but add a

little honey for the kids and hubby.

> If & when you get time, can you plse look at that Word doc I sent

re

> his food & meals per day? I lack idea's & although there are many

> receipes available, it is not so easy to know where to start.

I'll try to today and will get back to you. If you don't hear from

me later today, write me off list to remind me.

Sheila, SCD 55 mos, 21 yrs UC

mom of , SCD 40 mos

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