Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 This is amazing, the doctors totally dismiss it when I say this all started when I stopped the birth control pill. My problems started when I stopped the pill, which I had low progesterone and I became estrogen dominent. A little estrogen is okay as long as it is balanced with progesterone. Re: birth control and pancreatitis... What I got from the doctor was that the estrogen is the aggravtor...so I guess that would include anything that gives estrogen. But maybe it is just extra estrogen that affects the pancreas? So with HRT you are replacing lost estrogen, not adding more like bc pills do.... Just wanted to put my 2 cents in on the BC issue. No doctor will > prescribe me birth control pills. My former FP dr. was absolutely > convinced that my acute pancreatitis attacks were caused by Ortho Tri- > Cyclen so he put a note in my chart saying no BC pills and sent a > letter to my gyn stating the same thing. I'd kill to get back on BC > pills because my endometriosis is out of control without them. > > Depo has been presented to me as an option. I'm just dead-set > against it. I've heard some good things, but I've heard a lot of bad > things. Mostly I don't want the weight gain, I already carry enough > weight as it is. > > Another option is the mini-pill that many women take while they are > breast feeding. It's not as effective as the combo pills for > contraception, but it is not said to cause pancreatitis. > > Angel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 What pill caused your problems? I am on Ortho tri cyclen...I thought it was supposed to be one of the lowest dose pills, but if there is a lower one, I would like to know. Thanks! Kay > > For the ladies... ;-) > > At my appointment with my new GI the other day he mentioned to > > me that it is rare, but that oral contraceptives have shown to > > cause pancreatitis. I remember a post a while back where > > someone was asking if anyone's pain got worse around their > > periods, maybe caused by hormones. He said that he doesn't > > think that I should go off of my birth control right now, but we > will > > watch it or something like that. I wondered if the shot (depo > > provera, i think???) would be better. I think the doctor said that > > that is pure progesterone as opposed to the pill's estrogen? And > > I thought he said it would be less irritating to the pancreas. I > > would have to bring it up to him again because we didn't really > > discuss it in great detail....Anyone heard anything about this? > > Thanks! > > Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 What pill caused your problems? I am on Ortho tri cyclen...I thought it was supposed to be one of the lowest dose pills, but if there is a lower one, I would like to know. Thanks! Kay > > For the ladies... ;-) > > At my appointment with my new GI the other day he mentioned to > > me that it is rare, but that oral contraceptives have shown to > > cause pancreatitis. I remember a post a while back where > > someone was asking if anyone's pain got worse around their > > periods, maybe caused by hormones. He said that he doesn't > > think that I should go off of my birth control right now, but we > will > > watch it or something like that. I wondered if the shot (depo > > provera, i think???) would be better. I think the doctor said that > > that is pure progesterone as opposed to the pill's estrogen? And > > I thought he said it would be less irritating to the pancreas. I > > would have to bring it up to him again because we didn't really > > discuss it in great detail....Anyone heard anything about this? > > Thanks! > > Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 > >Reply-To: pancreatitis >To: pancreatitis > >Subject: birth control and pancreatitis... >Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:32:35 +0930 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.73]) by >mc2-f22.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Fri, 2 Aug >2002 01:16:21 -0700 >Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug >2002 08:02:14 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: (qmail 48411 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; >2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO roo.lm.net.au) (203.22.27.6) by >mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: from client (mbppp253.lm.net.au [203.22.27.253])by roo.lm.net.au >(8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g72864n68027for >pancreatitis >; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:36:04 +0930 >(CST)(envelope-from blackheath@...) >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-278417-34079-1028275334-shannontuten=hotmail.com@...\ m >X-Sender: blackheath@... >X-Apparently-To: pancreatitis >Message-ID: <002501c239fb$8c5a5520$fd1b16cb@client> >References: F129L6Y3MuXXIosOEXc0001be4c@...> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >X-Yahoo-Profile: pymie007 >Mailing-List: list pancreatitis ; contact >pancreatitis-owner >Delivered-To: mailing list pancreatitis >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: pancreatitis-unsubscribe > >Return-Path: >sentto-278417-34079-1028275334-shannontuten=hotmail.com@...\ m >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 08:16:23.0550 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E3C251E0:01C239FC] >: I saw Dr. Lyons today. I found him courtesy of the internet while researching endometriosis. I have to admit I was a little disappointed with his bdeside manner. I'm sure he is a skilled surgeon and if needed I would probably let him do it. He did spend alot of time asking questions, and about my history. I had records with me. I have documented endometriosis from a previous lap. Problem is not one can actually tell me that the pain I am having is definatly due to the enodmetrisosis and not from a kidney stone, adhesions or the CP for that matter. We can try meds, which is what he advised but I have serious doubts about the potential treatment. first was low dose estrogen patch. I seriously doubt my pulmonary doc will let me take due to previous blood clots. second was a coated IUD. to which i doubt the infectious disease doc will let me try due to my history of PID with a previous IUD. even though this is different. My body attacks everything foreign and eventually becomes infected. I told him of my concerns and that I would not try anything without discussing it with them first. My main problem with him was he was just not very personable. I need to feel like I can talk to him and I jsut didn't feel comfortable with that. he sat behind his desk the entire time, then when he did examine me he didn't say anything, excuse me but I want to know when you are going to touch me- down there. Honestly I left feeling like it was a waste of time. Maybe I will feel differently later. I am going to have a CT of the pelvis next week.- my back is killing me and I have to know if it is a stone. I am also going to talk to my pulmonary doc, and FP doc as well as e-mail (Dr. Hawes PA) and ask about the increased risk of pancreatitis with the estrogen. It is listed as a potential side effect the I will call Dr. Lyons back and let him know. I am also going to write down some more questions because my mind was not with it today. it was back home with my nephews. While I dont want to go into details I will ask that you remember them in your prayers. THere names are (13) and (12) and they are my twin sisters sons. they are my life and are going through a difficult time with their father right now. I worried all day about them and when it came time for me to ask questions I went totally blank. I had a list but I left it at home. I guess with my mind. I had a similar problem with Dr. once. He was extremely quiet and didn't keep me informed until I approached him and told him I needed to know things. Even though the nurses insisted it was his way- he was jut quiet. WRONG! his attitude totally changed and he was always very open with me after that- even joked around a little. So I am not going to totally give up on him. I think if I do end up needing surgery he is who I will need but right now I do have my doubts. HOw do you know about him? have you seen him or know someone that has? Thanks, sorry to be so long. >, are you going to see Dr Albee or Dr Lyons, they have a site >http://www.centerforendo.com/personnel/albee.htm. Whoever you are seeing, >if they are renown for being one of the best, then you would get a lot of >relief with their surgical skills. >All the best, > > > > I know what you mean about the endometriosis. I've been having terrible >pain > > with it. I can't take BCP's due to previous blood clots. I refused >Lupron > > (way to many side efects). I'm going to a GYN in Atlanta Fri. He is >suppose > > to be one of the best and it is what he specializes in. I've had 2 >surgeries > > for it already. Don't know what my other options are- if any- but I'll >let > > you know what he says. > > > > -SC > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > > Online e-mail group > > > > To reply to this message hit & quot;reply & quot; or send an >e-mail >to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 > >Reply-To: pancreatitis >To: pancreatitis > >Subject: birth control and pancreatitis... >Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:32:35 +0930 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.73]) by >mc2-f22.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Fri, 2 Aug >2002 01:16:21 -0700 >Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug >2002 08:02:14 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: (qmail 48411 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; >2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO roo.lm.net.au) (203.22.27.6) by >mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2002 08:02:13 -0000 >Received: from client (mbppp253.lm.net.au [203.22.27.253])by roo.lm.net.au >(8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g72864n68027for >pancreatitis >; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:36:04 +0930 >(CST)(envelope-from blackheath@...) >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-278417-34079-1028275334-shannontuten=hotmail.com@...\ m >X-Sender: blackheath@... >X-Apparently-To: pancreatitis >Message-ID: <002501c239fb$8c5a5520$fd1b16cb@client> >References: F129L6Y3MuXXIosOEXc0001be4c@...> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >X-Yahoo-Profile: pymie007 >Mailing-List: list pancreatitis ; contact >pancreatitis-owner >Delivered-To: mailing list pancreatitis >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: pancreatitis-unsubscribe > >Return-Path: >sentto-278417-34079-1028275334-shannontuten=hotmail.com@...\ m >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 08:16:23.0550 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E3C251E0:01C239FC] >: I saw Dr. Lyons today. I found him courtesy of the internet while researching endometriosis. I have to admit I was a little disappointed with his bdeside manner. I'm sure he is a skilled surgeon and if needed I would probably let him do it. He did spend alot of time asking questions, and about my history. I had records with me. I have documented endometriosis from a previous lap. Problem is not one can actually tell me that the pain I am having is definatly due to the enodmetrisosis and not from a kidney stone, adhesions or the CP for that matter. We can try meds, which is what he advised but I have serious doubts about the potential treatment. first was low dose estrogen patch. I seriously doubt my pulmonary doc will let me take due to previous blood clots. second was a coated IUD. to which i doubt the infectious disease doc will let me try due to my history of PID with a previous IUD. even though this is different. My body attacks everything foreign and eventually becomes infected. I told him of my concerns and that I would not try anything without discussing it with them first. My main problem with him was he was just not very personable. I need to feel like I can talk to him and I jsut didn't feel comfortable with that. he sat behind his desk the entire time, then when he did examine me he didn't say anything, excuse me but I want to know when you are going to touch me- down there. Honestly I left feeling like it was a waste of time. Maybe I will feel differently later. I am going to have a CT of the pelvis next week.- my back is killing me and I have to know if it is a stone. I am also going to talk to my pulmonary doc, and FP doc as well as e-mail (Dr. Hawes PA) and ask about the increased risk of pancreatitis with the estrogen. It is listed as a potential side effect the I will call Dr. Lyons back and let him know. I am also going to write down some more questions because my mind was not with it today. it was back home with my nephews. While I dont want to go into details I will ask that you remember them in your prayers. THere names are (13) and (12) and they are my twin sisters sons. they are my life and are going through a difficult time with their father right now. I worried all day about them and when it came time for me to ask questions I went totally blank. I had a list but I left it at home. I guess with my mind. I had a similar problem with Dr. once. He was extremely quiet and didn't keep me informed until I approached him and told him I needed to know things. Even though the nurses insisted it was his way- he was jut quiet. WRONG! his attitude totally changed and he was always very open with me after that- even joked around a little. So I am not going to totally give up on him. I think if I do end up needing surgery he is who I will need but right now I do have my doubts. HOw do you know about him? have you seen him or know someone that has? Thanks, sorry to be so long. >, are you going to see Dr Albee or Dr Lyons, they have a site >http://www.centerforendo.com/personnel/albee.htm. Whoever you are seeing, >if they are renown for being one of the best, then you would get a lot of >relief with their surgical skills. >All the best, > > > > I know what you mean about the endometriosis. I've been having terrible >pain > > with it. I can't take BCP's due to previous blood clots. I refused >Lupron > > (way to many side efects). I'm going to a GYN in Atlanta Fri. He is >suppose > > to be one of the best and it is what he specializes in. I've had 2 >surgeries > > for it already. Don't know what my other options are- if any- but I'll >let > > you know what he says. > > > > -SC > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > PANCREATITIS Association, Intl. > > Online e-mail group > > > > To reply to this message hit & quot;reply & quot; or send an >e-mail >to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 In a message dated 8/2/02 10:27:55 PM Central Daylight Time, shannontuten@... writes: - and everyone else with endometriosis; I would like to know why your doctors didn't perform a hystorectomy when they found the endometriosis...I know my case was extremely bad (my whole usteris was covered with new and old wounds just six months after intensive medical procedures - was trying to get pregnant), but I was only 26 and this was 20 years ago. If my doctor hadn't removed the uterus at that time I would have had 20 more years of pain and don't these doctors know endometriosis spreads to other organs? My doctor took six hours to be sure he removed several other lesions he found and I haven't had any reocurrance. I just can't imagine the pain of endo on top of pancreatitis. Maybe that is " old school " , but I just wanted you to know that even though I really wanted to have my own child I believe my doctor made the right decision. I still have my ovaries, so don't have any estrogen problems. Also would like to share advice from my friend that is a nurse. She told me to write my questions down (I carry a notepad with me at all times now) to take to the doctor and if I am having a bad day or after a medical procedure, to take someone with me to my doctor's appointment. Just thought I would share. gw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 In a message dated 8/2/02 10:27:55 PM Central Daylight Time, shannontuten@... writes: - and everyone else with endometriosis; I would like to know why your doctors didn't perform a hystorectomy when they found the endometriosis...I know my case was extremely bad (my whole usteris was covered with new and old wounds just six months after intensive medical procedures - was trying to get pregnant), but I was only 26 and this was 20 years ago. If my doctor hadn't removed the uterus at that time I would have had 20 more years of pain and don't these doctors know endometriosis spreads to other organs? My doctor took six hours to be sure he removed several other lesions he found and I haven't had any reocurrance. I just can't imagine the pain of endo on top of pancreatitis. Maybe that is " old school " , but I just wanted you to know that even though I really wanted to have my own child I believe my doctor made the right decision. I still have my ovaries, so don't have any estrogen problems. Also would like to share advice from my friend that is a nurse. She told me to write my questions down (I carry a notepad with me at all times now) to take to the doctor and if I am having a bad day or after a medical procedure, to take someone with me to my doctor's appointment. Just thought I would share. gw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 In a message dated 8/2/02 10:27:55 PM Central Daylight Time, shannontuten@... writes: - and everyone else with endometriosis; I would like to know why your doctors didn't perform a hystorectomy when they found the endometriosis...I know my case was extremely bad (my whole usteris was covered with new and old wounds just six months after intensive medical procedures - was trying to get pregnant), but I was only 26 and this was 20 years ago. If my doctor hadn't removed the uterus at that time I would have had 20 more years of pain and don't these doctors know endometriosis spreads to other organs? My doctor took six hours to be sure he removed several other lesions he found and I haven't had any reocurrance. I just can't imagine the pain of endo on top of pancreatitis. Maybe that is " old school " , but I just wanted you to know that even though I really wanted to have my own child I believe my doctor made the right decision. I still have my ovaries, so don't have any estrogen problems. Also would like to share advice from my friend that is a nurse. She told me to write my questions down (I carry a notepad with me at all times now) to take to the doctor and if I am having a bad day or after a medical procedure, to take someone with me to my doctor's appointment. Just thought I would share. gw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 In a message dated 8/2/02 10:27:55 PM Central Daylight Time, shannontuten@... writes: - and everyone else with endometriosis; I would like to know why your doctors didn't perform a hystorectomy when they found the endometriosis...I know my case was extremely bad (my whole usteris was covered with new and old wounds just six months after intensive medical procedures - was trying to get pregnant), but I was only 26 and this was 20 years ago. If my doctor hadn't removed the uterus at that time I would have had 20 more years of pain and don't these doctors know endometriosis spreads to other organs? My doctor took six hours to be sure he removed several other lesions he found and I haven't had any reocurrance. I just can't imagine the pain of endo on top of pancreatitis. Maybe that is " old school " , but I just wanted you to know that even though I really wanted to have my own child I believe my doctor made the right decision. I still have my ovaries, so don't have any estrogen problems. Also would like to share advice from my friend that is a nurse. She told me to write my questions down (I carry a notepad with me at all times now) to take to the doctor and if I am having a bad day or after a medical procedure, to take someone with me to my doctor's appointment. Just thought I would share. gw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Hi everybody, Just had a long weekend up here in Canada. Had a very nice time with husband and family. Just checked the message board and see that I have some catching up to do One message that is very interesting to me at this time is the discussion about the BC pill. I don't think the pill caused the CP, however do strongly believe it (or estsrogen) is aggrevating it. I thought this before I even knew I had CP. About 4 months ago I switched from a strictly estrogen pill, which was making me extremely uncomfortable in a number of ways, and it helped for a while. For a couple of months I didn't have discomfort until about a week before my period. Now I am back to having discomfort from about the 3rd day into my pill pack that gets progressively worse until about 3 days from onset of menstration. My doc said it is unrelated. Yeah, right!! I would love to hear from anybody who might know HOW/WHY estrogen aggrevates the pancreas, so that I can take it to my doc and/or specialist. Joia p.s. I had a stomach X-ray today. Barium Meal (yuck) my whole insides are objecting strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Hi everybody, Just had a long weekend up here in Canada. Had a very nice time with husband and family. Just checked the message board and see that I have some catching up to do One message that is very interesting to me at this time is the discussion about the BC pill. I don't think the pill caused the CP, however do strongly believe it (or estsrogen) is aggrevating it. I thought this before I even knew I had CP. About 4 months ago I switched from a strictly estrogen pill, which was making me extremely uncomfortable in a number of ways, and it helped for a while. For a couple of months I didn't have discomfort until about a week before my period. Now I am back to having discomfort from about the 3rd day into my pill pack that gets progressively worse until about 3 days from onset of menstration. My doc said it is unrelated. Yeah, right!! I would love to hear from anybody who might know HOW/WHY estrogen aggrevates the pancreas, so that I can take it to my doc and/or specialist. Joia p.s. I had a stomach X-ray today. Barium Meal (yuck) my whole insides are objecting strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2002 Report Share Posted August 6, 2002 Hi everybody, Just had a long weekend up here in Canada. Had a very nice time with husband and family. Just checked the message board and see that I have some catching up to do One message that is very interesting to me at this time is the discussion about the BC pill. I don't think the pill caused the CP, however do strongly believe it (or estsrogen) is aggrevating it. I thought this before I even knew I had CP. About 4 months ago I switched from a strictly estrogen pill, which was making me extremely uncomfortable in a number of ways, and it helped for a while. For a couple of months I didn't have discomfort until about a week before my period. Now I am back to having discomfort from about the 3rd day into my pill pack that gets progressively worse until about 3 days from onset of menstration. My doc said it is unrelated. Yeah, right!! I would love to hear from anybody who might know HOW/WHY estrogen aggrevates the pancreas, so that I can take it to my doc and/or specialist. Joia p.s. I had a stomach X-ray today. Barium Meal (yuck) my whole insides are objecting strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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