Re: Another enzyme question

[Guest guest]

thank you so much that answered most of my questions. We might

try the no-phenol and Peptizyde just to see if there is a difference.

Thanks again!!!

>

> CereCalase is a blend from National Enzyme Company. It contains the

> following fiber digesting enzymes for digestin non-starch

> polysaccharides (NSPs):

> - hemicellulase

> - beta-glucanase

> - phytase

> - has cellulase and a little amylase activity

>

> >>>> **Is cellulase part of CereCalase or Xylanase?

>

> Cellulase is part of CereCalase. The CereCalase is a made up name

to

> represent the entire unique blend. Then they sell this blend to

other

> companies to use in their product. There are a number of companies

> that include CereCalase in their products for the NSP fraction in

> foods.

>

> If you look on the Candidase label, it actually gives the units in

> activity for:

> - Cellulase *Therablend* and

> - Protease *Therablend*

>

> Enzymedica uses a system they refer to as Therablend. It means they

> blend several types of cellulases or proteases together so breaks

> down a piece of cellulase or protein more thoroughly. It means a

> blend for a more therapeutic result. Here is a description here:

> http://www.enzymedica.com/therablend.php

>

> CereCalase blending would be similar to the Therablend idea of

> combining several similar but different enzymes together to more

> completely digest the food molecule.

>

> This is very similar to the blend of 3 proteases in Peptizyde or

AFP

> to more completely digest casein and gluten. Other products have

> proteases but they aren't efficient on casein and gluten. And just

> putting DPP IV in a capsule didn't work out too hot either. You

need

> all three enzymes to completely get all the essential casein and

> gluten bonds.

>

> The blending can allow a product to contain less quantity of

enzymes

> because they make up for it with efficiency. That is part of the

art

> of enzymes besides the science. But it really takes some expertise

to

> blend enzymes...sort of a specialization. That is why a lot of

> companies just toss some of everything in a capsule and don't have

> more than 1 or 2 enzyme products in their entire supplement line.

>

> If this is getting way too involved, I apologize.

>

> Candidase and No-Fenol both can work on yeast because they both

have

> the blends of cellulases, granted the blends are different.

Candidase

> has the extra proteases which are the other part of yeast organism.

> Yeast consist of proteins as well as cellulase.

>

> No-Fenol does not include the proteases, but since most people

using

> No-Fenol also used Peptizyde (which is all proteases), it didn't

seem

> to matter that much. The thing that makes No-Fenol unique is the

high

> xylanse. It could the xylanase that makes No-Fenol so effective

with

> phenolic foods, but this isn't known for sure. And the xylanases

may

> have some effect on yeast, but how much is not known.

>

> I have noticed though that several people originally using No-Fenol

> for yeast along with Peptizyde have switched to Candidase now that

> they no longer need Peptizyde for casein and gluten. Cost may also

be

> a factor depending on where you get either one. I've wondered too

if

> one was more effective than the other but it really hasn't been a

> tested issue. If anyone has experiences to volunteer, it would be

> good to hear.

>

> You could just get one bottle of one and try it, then get one

bottle

> of the other and try it. Then go with whichever one works best for

> you.

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

Hi .

I'm not an expert, but we're using both products, and the two of them

work differently - they have different enzymes in them, so you can't

do a side-by-side strength comparison.

In the Candidase, the cellulase breaks up the outer protein coating of

the yeast, and the protease gobbles it all up. The Candidase folks say

that in theory you're not supposed to experience die-off symptoms with

their product. The xylanase in the Nofenol somehow breaks up the

yeast, but you'll probably feel die-off symptoms. Lots of people take

it with Peptizide (a protease) for that purpose.

We've been using Candidase for yeast management and Nofenol for " food

management " ... although people do use Nofenol between meals for yeast

too. You'd need to try them both to see which is more effective for

you. I know Houston will send samples of Nofenol. You could always

call Enzymedica to see if they'd send you a Candidase sample (just so

you can see if you tolerate it). Their " tech support " guy, I

think, is really helpful. There's also great information at

www.enzymestuff.com.

Cindy

>

> I'n not sure how to compare Candidase and no-Fenol as they have

> different units used.

> Candidase has Cellulase 60,000CU and Protease 200,000HUT (2 capsules)

> No-fenol has xylanase 32,000XU and Cerecalase 1,500MU 1 capsule

>

> Does anyone know which is stronger per capsule?

> Thanks!

> andrea

>

[Guest guest]

Hi .

I'm not an expert, but we're using both products, and the two of them

work differently - they have different enzymes in them, so you can't

do a side-by-side strength comparison.

In the Candidase, the cellulase breaks up the outer protein coating of

the yeast, and the protease gobbles it all up. The Candidase folks say

that in theory you're not supposed to experience die-off symptoms with

their product. The xylanase in the Nofenol somehow breaks up the

yeast, but you'll probably feel die-off symptoms. Lots of people take

it with Peptizide (a protease) for that purpose.

We've been using Candidase for yeast management and Nofenol for " food

management " ... although people do use Nofenol between meals for yeast

too. You'd need to try them both to see which is more effective for

you. I know Houston will send samples of Nofenol. You could always

call Enzymedica to see if they'd send you a Candidase sample (just so

you can see if you tolerate it). Their " tech support " guy, I

think, is really helpful. There's also great information at

www.enzymestuff.com.

Cindy

>

> I'n not sure how to compare Candidase and no-Fenol as they have

> different units used.

> Candidase has Cellulase 60,000CU and Protease 200,000HUT (2 capsules)

> No-fenol has xylanase 32,000XU and Cerecalase 1,500MU 1 capsule

>

> Does anyone know which is stronger per capsule?

> Thanks!

> andrea

>