Re: moving to raw fruits and vegetables.

[Guest guest]

Is it possible that Eli has a low thyroid?

moving to raw fruits and vegetables.

> Just wanted to thank you all for all the help we got when starting.

> Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his constipation.

> Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium, extra

> water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the reason we

> started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to move on

> to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed to stick

> to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've given the

> cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be some who

> think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably SCD isn't

> the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet, just moving

> to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a week,

> and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will continue

> making all that stuff for him.

> a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

> _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

> websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

What are his symptoms?

How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

incomplete?

Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

Sheila

> Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

constipation.

> Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium, extra

> water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

reason we

> started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to move

on

> to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed to

stick

> to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've given

the

> cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

some who

> think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably SCD

isn't

> the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet, just

moving

> to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

week,

> and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

continue

> making all that stuff for him.

> a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

What are his symptoms?

How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

incomplete?

Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

Sheila

> Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

constipation.

> Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium, extra

> water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

reason we

> started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to move

on

> to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed to

stick

> to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've given

the

> cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

some who

> think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably SCD

isn't

> the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet, just

moving

> to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

week,

> and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

continue

> making all that stuff for him.

> a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

>

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

In July6 2004, his then DAN doctor did a great smokies comprehensive

thyroid assessment. His tsh, free t4, free t3, were all in the

middle of the range. reverse t3 was low-middle (range was 14.0 thru

26.1, his was 16.6). The doctor was satisfied that his thyroid was

fine. Do you think it's a good enough test?

a H.

>

> Is it possible that Eli has a low thyroid?

>

>

>

>

> moving to raw fruits and vegetables.

>

>

> > Just wanted to thank you all for all the help we got when

starting.

> > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

constipation.

> > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium, extra

> > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

reason we

> > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

move on

> > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed to

stick

> > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've given

the

> > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

some who

> > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably SCD

isn't

> > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet, just

moving

> > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

week,

> > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

continue

> > making all that stuff for him.

> > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book

> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

following

> > websites:

> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> > and

> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

He says it's hard to describe. He feels like he has to poop 5 or 10

times a day. Sometimes it's loosish (especially in the morning) but

often it's small dry balls or small dry ovals. But it's never good.

It never feels complete. It's often hard to push out, even when it's

loosish. He never feels like he's had a good bm.

a H.

>

> Hi a,

>

> What are his symptoms?

> How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

> How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

> incomplete?

> Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

>

> Sheila

>

> > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> constipation.

> > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

extra

> > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> reason we

> > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

move

> on

> > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed to

> stick

> > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've given

> the

> > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

> some who

> > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably SCD

> isn't

> > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet, just

> moving

> > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

> week,

> > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> continue

> > making all that stuff for him.

> > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

I forgot to add that he has what I believe is psoriasis (for about 8

years) which has been mostly under control with diet for years (no

grains, nightshades, spices, beans, yeast etc.). But I don't know if

the underlying problem is parasites, toxins, a congested bowel,

etc. a H.

-- In pecanbread , " Sheila Trenholm "

wrote:

>

> Hi a,

>

> What are his symptoms?

> How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

> How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

> incomplete?

> Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

>

> Sheila

>

> > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> constipation.

> > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

extra

> > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> reason we

> > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

move

> on

> > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed to

> stick

> > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've given

> the

> > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

> some who

> > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably SCD

> isn't

> > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet, just

> moving

> > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

> week,

> > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> continue

> > making all that stuff for him.

> > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Marilyn,

> In July6 2004, his then DAN doctor did a great smokies comprehensive

> thyroid assessment. His tsh, free t4, free t3, were all in the

> middle of the range. reverse t3 was low-middle (range was 14.0 thru

> 26.1, his was 16.6). The doctor was satisfied that his thyroid was

> fine. Do you think it's a good enough test?

> a H.

>

Elaine often commented at public foums that some of the testing was unreliable

but that is

not to say this applies to your results or those of others. She felt that some

testing was to

costly and uneccessary.

Carol F.

SCD 5 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:58:49 -0000 " phashmall " PHashmall@...>

writes:

> Marilyn,

> In July6 2004, his then DAN doctor did a great smokies comprehensive

>

> thyroid assessment. His tsh, free t4, free t3, were all in the

> middle of the range. reverse t3 was low-middle (range was 14.0 thru

>

> 26.1, his was 16.6). The doctor was satisfied that his th

Sorry to jump in here but his tests were good. You need the hormones T4

and T3 checked, and the free form is the most accurate.

About TSH: TSH ranges for kids are higher than for adults, so a TSH of 2

could indicate a need for further testing for hypothryoidism in an adult

but be fine for kids. BUT the American Academy of Clinical

Endocrinologists did change the adult normal ranges (so hypo is

considered a possibility at lower numbers than previously). I don't know

if they changed the kids ranges as well. The point is that a TSH in mid

range might be high and require further testing, or monitoring. Did you

have TPO antibodies checked?

Take care, Fay

[Guest guest]

I don't know. I know that I had low thyroid symptoms for years, but the

thyroid blood tests that I had run were all normal. Then, I finally found a

doctor that run a saliva test for me. They are much more sensitive. It

showed that I had a very low thyroid. So, the tests really do matter. I

can't tell you if the saliva test would show a problem or not. It costs

about $140.

moving to raw fruits and vegetables.

>>

>>

>> > Just wanted to thank you all for all the help we got when

> starting.

>> > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> constipation.

>> > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium, extra

>> > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> reason we

>> > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

> move on

>> > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed to

> stick

>> > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've given

> the

>> > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

> some who

>> > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably SCD

> isn't

>> > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet, just

> moving

>> > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

> week,

>> > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> continue

>> > making all that stuff for him.

>> > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> the book

>> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> following

>> > websites:

>> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> > and

>> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:55:13 -0500 " Marilyn Sawyer "

marilyn1972@...> writes:

> I don't know. I know that I had low thyroid symptoms for years, but

> the

> thyroid blood tests that I had run were all normal. Then, I finally

> found a

> doctor that run a saliva test for me. They are much more sensitive.

> It

> showed that I had a very low thyroid. So, the tests really do

> matter. I

> can't tell you if the saliva test would show a problem or not. It

> costs

> about $140.

>

Do you have your numbers? A proper thyroid panel - TSH interpreted by the

newer ranges, Free T3, and Free T4 - and TPO antibodies should indicate

low thyroid if present.

Take care, Fay

[Guest guest]

I know Carol, that probably the best thyroid test is basal body

temperature. I will do that as soon as I get him at home for 3 days

straight. But then, what do you do if there is thyroid

insufficiency?

a H.

> >

> > Marilyn,

> > In July6 2004, his then DAN doctor did a great smokies

comprehensive

> > thyroid assessment. His tsh, free t4, free t3, were all in the

> > middle of the range. reverse t3 was low-middle (range was 14.0

thru

> > 26.1, his was 16.6). The doctor was satisfied that his thyroid

was

> > fine. Do you think it's a good enough test?

> > a H.

> >

> Elaine often commented at public foums that some of the testing was

unreliable but that is

> not to say this applies to your results or those of others. She

felt that some testing was to

> costly and uneccessary.

>

> Carol F.

> SCD 5 years, celiac

>

[Guest guest]

Fay,

Actually, Eli is 20, and so he should be considered an adult in these

tests. I'm not exactly sure what you meant. His thyroid antibodies

were checked and they came out negative, at the same time.

a H.

>

>

>

> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:58:49 -0000 " phashmall "

> writes:

> > Marilyn,

> > In July6 2004, his then DAN doctor did a great smokies

comprehensive

> >

> > thyroid assessment. His tsh, free t4, free t3, were all in the

> > middle of the range. reverse t3 was low-middle (range was 14.0

thru

> >

> > 26.1, his was 16.6). The doctor was satisfied that his th

>

> Sorry to jump in here but his tests were good. You need the

hormones T4

> and T3 checked, and the free form is the most accurate.

> About TSH: TSH ranges for kids are higher than for adults, so a TSH

of 2

> could indicate a need for further testing for hypothryoidism in an

adult

> but be fine for kids. BUT the American Academy of Clinical

> Endocrinologists did change the adult normal ranges (so hypo is

> considered a possibility at lower numbers than previously). I don't

know

> if they changed the kids ranges as well. The point is that a TSH in

mid

> range might be high and require further testing, or monitoring. Did

you

> have TPO antibodies checked?

> Take care, Fay

>

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

when your thyroid was low, were you also having problems with

constipation? and what did you do to correct the thyroid problem?

Thanks, a H. mom to Eli, 20, scd 7 weeks, constipated about 7

years.

> >>

> >> Is it possible that Eli has a low thyroid?

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> moving to raw fruits and vegetables.

> >>

> >>

> >> > Just wanted to thank you all for all the help we got when

> > starting.

> >> > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> > constipation.

> >> > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

extra

> >> > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> > reason we

> >> > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

> > move on

> >> > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed

to

> > stick

> >> > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

given

> > the

> >> > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

> > some who

> >> > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

SCD

> > isn't

> >> > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

just

> > moving

> >> > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

> > week,

> >> > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> > continue

> >> > making all that stuff for him.

> >> > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

> > the book

> >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

> > following

> >> > websites:

> >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> >> > and

> >> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

I know that when I was pregnant, the constipation was incredible. It was so

bad that I had a metallic taste in my mouth, and one time threw up after

eating because I just couldn't put anything else in my body until something

came out.

One of the things that worked when nothing else would, was energy healing. I

know it sounds incredulous, but I saw an energy healer once a week, and

whatever he did caused me to eliminate that evening, usually.

It was a very tough situation. I could eat a pound of prunes, and it didn't

help a bit.

For the thyroid problem, I now take levothyroxin every day. It helps, but I

still don't feel 100%. I think because my adrenals are worn out and not

working properly as well. I'm told my pituitary isn't sending the right

signals. For the adrenals, I'm taking an herbal formula recommended by my

naturopath, called Adreno-Forte.

The constipation issue was a tough one. Lately, I think I wasn't having it

as much because I think dairy gives me diarrhea. I'm realizing that I need

to cut out dairy, because I'm allergic to it, so I'll see what happens after

that.

I guess I haven't really answered your question about the constipation. The

things that sometimes worked for me aren't legal (xylitol, senna tea).

Sometimes I used an enema, but that only cleans out the lower colon, I

think.

If you do have a thyroid test, I recommend finding someone to do the saliva

test. One naturopath told me that the standard blood test misses most people

that actually do have thyroid problems. Another naturopath ran both the

standard blood test, and the saliva test, on me around the same time. Sure

enough, the saliva test showed a severe thyroid problem, while the blood

test said that everything was just fine!!! Go figure. Because of this, I

just don't trust the blood test.

I've also been constipated at times, I think, because of low iron, because

as soon as I started taking iron, I became less constipated.

Hope some of this helps,

Marilyn

moving to raw fruits and vegetables.

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> > Just wanted to thank you all for all the help we got when

>> > starting.

>> >> > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

>> > constipation.

>> >> > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

> extra

>> >> > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

>> > reason we

>> >> > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

>> > move on

>> >> > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed

> to

>> > stick

>> >> > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

> given

>> > the

>> >> > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

>> > some who

>> >> > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

> SCD

>> > isn't

>> >> > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

> just

>> > moving

>> >> > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

>> > week,

>> >> > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

>> > continue

>> >> > making all that stuff for him.

>> >> > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

>> > the book

>> >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the

>> > following

>> >> > websites:

>> >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>> >> > and

>> >> > http://www.pecanbread.com

>> >> >

>> >> >

[Guest guest]

>

> I know Carol, that probably the best thyroid test is basal body

> temperature. I will do that as soon as I get him at home for 3 days

> straight. But then, what do you do if there is thyroid

> insufficiency?

> a H.

>

a I can't suggest what you should do but will share my experience as an

adult. I had a

sluggish thyroid for many years as I was obese. When my weight normalized I

discussed it

with Elaine who suggested my physician and I " challenge " the Eltroxin I had

taken for years

and retest in six weeks. There was no significant chnage and I don't take the

meds now

but still have low body temperature. However I would not have attmpted this

without my

physician and think you should seek professional advice.

Carol F

SCD 5 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

> a I can't suggest what you should do but will share my

> experience as an adult. I had a

> sluggish thyroid for many years as I was obese. When my weight

> normalized I discussed it

> with Elaine who suggested my physician and I " challenge " the

> Eltroxin I had taken for years

> and retest in six weeks. There was no significant chnage and I don't

> take the meds now

> but still have low body temperature. However I would not have

> attmpted this without my

> physician and think you should seek professional advice.

I think Dr. Broda may have written some material relevant to your

situation. Many endocrinologists will not test FT3, will use antiquated

TSH ranges, and won't test for other endocrine issues like 's or

Cushing's.

Take care, Fay

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

That's interesting, first because iron is supposed to be

constipating. I'm not sure what an energy healer is, and although I

would consider myself medically far left of the mainstream, I'm not

sure that would be something we'd try. The basal body temperature

test is supposed to be better than blood work for thyroid, so I'll

try that with him as soon as I can. What's levothyroxin?

a H.

-- In pecanbread , " Marilyn Sawyer "

wrote:

>

> I know that when I was pregnant, the constipation was incredible.

It was so

> bad that I had a metallic taste in my mouth, and one time threw up

after

> eating because I just couldn't put anything else in my body until

something

> came out.

>

> One of the things that worked when nothing else would, was energy

healing. I

> know it sounds incredulous, but I saw an energy healer once a week,

and

> whatever he did caused me to eliminate that evening, usually.

>

> It was a very tough situation. I could eat a pound of prunes, and

it didn't

> help a bit.

>

> For the thyroid problem, I now take levothyroxin every day. It

helps, but I

> still don't feel 100%. I think because my adrenals are worn out and

not

> working properly as well. I'm told my pituitary isn't sending the

right

> signals. For the adrenals, I'm taking an herbal formula recommended

by my

> naturopath, called Adreno-Forte.

>

> The constipation issue was a tough one. Lately, I think I wasn't

having it

> as much because I think dairy gives me diarrhea. I'm realizing that

I need

> to cut out dairy, because I'm allergic to it, so I'll see what

happens after

> that.

>

> I guess I haven't really answered your question about the

constipation. The

> things that sometimes worked for me aren't legal (xylitol, senna

tea).

> Sometimes I used an enema, but that only cleans out the lower

colon, I

> think.

>

> If you do have a thyroid test, I recommend finding someone to do

the saliva

> test. One naturopath told me that the standard blood test misses

most people

> that actually do have thyroid problems. Another naturopath ran both

the

> standard blood test, and the saliva test, on me around the same

time. Sure

> enough, the saliva test showed a severe thyroid problem, while the

blood

> test said that everything was just fine!!! Go figure. Because of

this, I

> just don't trust the blood test.

>

> I've also been constipated at times, I think, because of low iron,

because

> as soon as I started taking iron, I became less constipated.

>

> Hope some of this helps,

>

> Marilyn

>

>

>

>

> moving to raw fruits and vegetables.

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> > Just wanted to thank you all for all the help we got when

> >> > starting.

> >> >> > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> >> > constipation.

> >> >> > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

> > extra

> >> >> > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was

the

> >> > reason we

> >> >> > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going

to

> >> > move on

> >> >> > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are

supposed

> > to

> >> > stick

> >> >> > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

> > given

> >> > the

> >> >> > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will

be

> >> > some who

> >> >> > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

> > SCD

> >> > isn't

> >> >> > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

> > just

> >> > moving

> >> >> > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond

yogurt a

> >> > week,

> >> >> > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> >> > continue

> >> >> > making all that stuff for him.

> >> >> > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please

read

> >> > the book

> >> >> > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the

> >> > following

> >> >> > websites:

> >> >> > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> >> >> > and

> >> >> > http://www.pecanbread.com

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

> For the thyroid problem, I now take levothyroxin every day. It

> helps, but I

> > still don't feel 100%. I think because my adrenals are worn out

> and

> not

> > working properly as well. I'm told my pituitary isn't sending the

> right

> > signals. For the adrenals, I'm taking an herbal formula

> recommended

> by my

> > naturopath, called Adreno-Forte.

Do you have your FT3 tested as well? You might benefit from adding

cytomel to your synthroid, or switching to Armourl.

The pituitary thing you mentioned is based on your TSH. Do you have the

numbers, and what ranges your lab gives for normal?

BTW, constipation is a big symptom of hypothyroidism. Having IBD

complicates the meaning of constipation, but is something to bear in

mind.

.. Sure

> > enough, the saliva test showed a severe thyroid problem, while the

>

> blood

> > test said that everything was just fine!!! Go figure. Because of

> this, I

> > just don't trust the blood test.

>

Thyroid disorders can be more subtle than labs show, but a big part of

the problem is that the most appropriate tests are often not given, or

the wrong tests are given too much weight (like TSH) and then, to add

insult to injury, old ranges for TSH are used. I'm on a few thyroid

support groups and I've seen patients really able to make progress once

they regularly get copies of all their labs, learn what the numbers mean,

and start insisting on the best tests.

Take care, Fay

[Guest guest]

> For the thyroid problem, I now take levothyroxin every day. It

> helps, but I

> > still don't feel 100%. I think because my adrenals are worn out

> and

> not

> > working properly as well. I'm told my pituitary isn't sending the

> right

> > signals. For the adrenals, I'm taking an herbal formula

> recommended

> by my

> > naturopath, called Adreno-Forte.

Do you have your FT3 tested as well? You might benefit from adding

cytomel to your synthroid, or switching to Armourl.

The pituitary thing you mentioned is based on your TSH. Do you have the

numbers, and what ranges your lab gives for normal?

BTW, constipation is a big symptom of hypothyroidism. Having IBD

complicates the meaning of constipation, but is something to bear in

mind.

.. Sure

> > enough, the saliva test showed a severe thyroid problem, while the

>

> blood

> > test said that everything was just fine!!! Go figure. Because of

> this, I

> > just don't trust the blood test.

>

Thyroid disorders can be more subtle than labs show, but a big part of

the problem is that the most appropriate tests are often not given, or

the wrong tests are given too much weight (like TSH) and then, to add

insult to injury, old ranges for TSH are used. I'm on a few thyroid

support groups and I've seen patients really able to make progress once

they regularly get copies of all their labs, learn what the numbers mean,

and start insisting on the best tests.

Take care, Fay

[Guest guest]

What's levothyroxin?

> a H.

Levothyroxine, a thyroid hormone, is used to treat hypothyroidism, a condition

where the

thyroid gland does not produce enough thyroid hormone. Without this hormone, the

body

cannot function properly, resulting in poor growth, slow speech, lack of energy,

weight

gain, hair loss, dry thick skin, and increased sensitivity to cold. When taken

correctly,

levothyroxine reverses these symptoms. Levothyroxine is also used to treat

congenital

hypothyroidism (cretinism) and goiter (enlarged thyroid gland).

This medication is sometimes prescribed for other uses; ask your doctor or

pharmacist for

more information.

Carol F.

SCD 5 years, celiac

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

Has he been tested for parasites, yeast or other microbes? It

sounds as if something " extra " may be going on. Any other symptoms

besides the constipation?

eg. describe the psorias/excema...Is it a raised rash, itchy rash

etc. pain under ribs,....

Sheila

> Sheila,

> I forgot to add that he has what I believe is psoriasis (for about

8

> years) which has been mostly under control with diet for years (no

> grains, nightshades, spices, beans, yeast etc.). But I don't know

if

> the underlying problem is parasites, toxins, a congested bowel,

> etc. a H.

>

>

> -- In pecanbread , " Sheila Trenholm "

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi a,

> >

> > What are his symptoms?

> > How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

> > How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

> > incomplete?

> > Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

> >

> > Sheila

> >

> > > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> > constipation.

> > > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

> extra

> > > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> > reason we

> > > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

> move

> > on

> > > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are supposed

to

> > stick

> > > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

given

> > the

> > > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will be

> > some who

> > > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

SCD

> > isn't

> > > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

just

> > moving

> > > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt a

> > week,

> > > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> > continue

> > > making all that stuff for him.

> > > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Yes, he has had parasites for quite a while. Various doctors have

had a hard time finding substances to eliminate the parasites that he

could tolerate. His current doc is using homeopathics, some

capsules, and aome antimicrobial drips. He thinks that the parasites

can undermine almost any function and that when they are under

control we might see some bowel changes. His 'psoriasis' was never

diagnosed- it's just what I think it is. When it started, at about

11 years old, it was on his arms and legs, weeping crusty large

sores. As we started eliminating foods (mostly corn, yeast, spices,

eggplant, peppers, beans, and some other foods), it became

manageable. Now he 'always knows it's there', and still seems to act

up only on some occasions (dust also makes him itch, and I'm pretty

sure that foods bring it out. When it does appear, it just looks

like large reddened areas on his legs, never get to the weepy stage

because he limits his diet. What do you think?

a H.

> > >

> > > Hi a,

> > >

> > > What are his symptoms?

> > > How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

> > > How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

> > > incomplete?

> > > Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

> > >

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > > > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> > > constipation.

> > > > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

> > extra

> > > > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> > > reason we

> > > > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

> > move

> > > on

> > > > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are

supposed

> to

> > > stick

> > > > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

> given

> > > the

> > > > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will

be

> > > some who

> > > > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

> SCD

> > > isn't

> > > > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

> just

> > > moving

> > > > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt

a

> > > week,

> > > > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> > > continue

> > > > making all that stuff for him.

> > > > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Yes, he has had parasites for quite a while. Various doctors have

had a hard time finding substances to eliminate the parasites that he

could tolerate. His current doc is using homeopathics, some

capsules, and aome antimicrobial drips. He thinks that the parasites

can undermine almost any function and that when they are under

control we might see some bowel changes. His 'psoriasis' was never

diagnosed- it's just what I think it is. When it started, at about

11 years old, it was on his arms and legs, weeping crusty large

sores. As we started eliminating foods (mostly corn, yeast, spices,

eggplant, peppers, beans, and some other foods), it became

manageable. Now he 'always knows it's there', and still seems to act

up only on some occasions (dust also makes him itch, and I'm pretty

sure that foods bring it out. When it does appear, it just looks

like large reddened areas on his legs, never get to the weepy stage

because he limits his diet. What do you think?

a H.

> > >

> > > Hi a,

> > >

> > > What are his symptoms?

> > > How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

> > > How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

> > > incomplete?

> > > Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

> > >

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > > > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> > > constipation.

> > > > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

> > extra

> > > > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> > > reason we

> > > > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

> > move

> > > on

> > > > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are

supposed

> to

> > > stick

> > > > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

> given

> > > the

> > > > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will

be

> > > some who

> > > > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

> SCD

> > > isn't

> > > > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

> just

> > > moving

> > > > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt

a

> > > week,

> > > > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> > > continue

> > > > making all that stuff for him.

> > > > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Yes, he has had parasites for quite a while. Various doctors have

had a hard time finding substances to eliminate the parasites that he

could tolerate. His current doc is using homeopathics, some

capsules, and aome antimicrobial drips. He thinks that the parasites

can undermine almost any function and that when they are under

control we might see some bowel changes. His 'psoriasis' was never

diagnosed- it's just what I think it is. When it started, at about

11 years old, it was on his arms and legs, weeping crusty large

sores. As we started eliminating foods (mostly corn, yeast, spices,

eggplant, peppers, beans, and some other foods), it became

manageable. Now he 'always knows it's there', and still seems to act

up only on some occasions (dust also makes him itch, and I'm pretty

sure that foods bring it out. When it does appear, it just looks

like large reddened areas on his legs, never get to the weepy stage

because he limits his diet. What do you think?

a H.

> > >

> > > Hi a,

> > >

> > > What are his symptoms?

> > > How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

> > > How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

> > > incomplete?

> > > Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

> > >

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > > > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> > > constipation.

> > > > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

> > extra

> > > > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> > > reason we

> > > > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

> > move

> > > on

> > > > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are

supposed

> to

> > > stick

> > > > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

> given

> > > the

> > > > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will

be

> > > some who

> > > > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

> SCD

> > > isn't

> > > > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

> just

> > > moving

> > > > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt

a

> > > week,

> > > > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> > > continue

> > > > making all that stuff for him.

> > > > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

A;lso, Sheila, as you know I have been belly-aching about getting the

abdominal xray that the Pfeiffer Center recmmended, and decided not

to go for it. But the lady who analysis his voice prints thinks that

there is probably some food still in his diet that he isn't

toleratingand is causing inflammation which might be inflaming the

bowels. It's difficult to pinpoint, but she suggested bringing a

little bit of all the foods he eats to our kineseologist for testing,

and if he can't find anything, she thinks it's time for a GI workup

with Dr. Buie (or maybe Dr. Krigsman) who is familiar with asd

problems. I really hate to go that route. We'll see.

a H.

> > >

> > > Hi a,

> > >

> > > What are his symptoms?

> > > How are his bm's? (dry stool, small balls etc.)

> > > How often does he have a bm? When he goes are they complete or

> > > incomplete?

> > > Does he have any other symptoms? Rashes, etc.?

> > >

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > > > Eli has been on SCD for 7 weeks with no change in his

> > > constipation.

> > > > Yes, we did try the prunes, prune concentrate, C, Magnesium,

> > extra

> > > > water, colon hydrotherapies, etc. Since constipation was the

> > > reason we

> > > > started SCD and I don't see any change at all, we're going to

> > move

> > > on

> > > > to include raw fruits and vegetables. I know you are

supposed

> to

> > > stick

> > > > to each stage until you see some change, but I think we've

> given

> > > the

> > > > cooked food a reasonable amount of time. I know there will

be

> > > some who

> > > > think 7 weeks isn't long enough, but I believe that probably

> SCD

> > > isn't

> > > > the answer for him, although we are not going off the diet,

> just

> > > moving

> > > > to another stage. He's been eating 15 cups of almond yogurt

a

> > > week,

> > > > and lots of almond flour/squash cookies and muffins. I will

> > > continue

> > > > making all that stuff for him.

> > > > a H., mom to Eli, constipated, scd 7 weeks.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>