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Dear Everyone:

I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at night. I

wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with tremendous success

for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was incurable). I have been

trying to put my daughter who is seven years old, very active and ADHD with

chronic stomach aches since she was around 18 months on SCD. She is probably

80% compliant. Things have definitely improved but I am still working on 100%

compliance. Its been especially difficult since we have displaced by the

hurricane. We are from New Orleans. Living in other household who are not

compliant is not easy but my sisters have tried to be supportive so I am very

lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are all now sleeping together in the same

room I've heard pretty severe teeth grinding. I remember there was a discussion

about this a year ago but I do not remember the recommendations.

My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and calcium supplement.

She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on SCD which has

complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I shouldn't worry

about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from her cow's milk allergy

such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe testing done but can't get

the results because of the evacuation. Her results are from skin scratch test.

She tested positive to squash, watermelon, orange, peas, string beans, peanuts,

cashews, cow's milk, casein, mushrooms, and some more but are not on scd. Any

thoughts on her food allergies would be welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

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Hi Eileen,

This issue was just discussed on the enzymesandautism listserv. These were

some of the possible explanations:

improper zinc/copper ratios

cal/mag deficiency

yeast in sinuses

zinc deficiency

magnesium deficiency

constipation

parasites

My best guess would be to try magnesium since you are giving your daughter

calcium. Calcium really needs to be taken with magnesium, also potassium.

Kirkman's has some good legal magnesium supplements. If she's constipated,

try magnesium citrate, if she has normal stools, try magnesium glycinate.

Magnesium oxide firms stools.

I am so sorry about your displacement. I hope that things go back to normal

for you soon. Do not be afraid to ask for help of any kind. I know I for

one would be happy to help you in any way and I'm sure I " m not the only one.

Take care, God bless and best wishes,

tte

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:34 -0400

>

>Dear Everyone:

>

>I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at night. I

>wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

>

>I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with tremendous

>success for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was incurable).

>I have been trying to put my daughter who is seven years old, very active

>and ADHD with chronic stomach aches since she was around 18 months on SCD.

>She is probably 80% compliant. Things have definitely improved but I am

>still working on 100% compliance. Its been especially difficult since we

>have displaced by the hurricane. We are from New Orleans. Living in other

>household who are not compliant is not easy but my sisters have tried to be

>supportive so I am very lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are all now

>sleeping together in the same room I've heard pretty severe teeth grinding.

> I remember there was a discussion about this a year ago but I do not

>remember the recommendations.

>

>My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and calcium

>supplement.

>

>She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on SCD which

>has complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I shouldn't

>worry about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from her cow's

>milk allergy such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe testing

>done but can't get the results because of the evacuation. Her results are

>from skin scratch test. She tested positive to squash, watermelon, orange,

>peas, string beans, peanuts, cashews, cow's milk, casein, mushrooms, and

>some more but are not on scd. Any thoughts on her food allergies would be

>welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

>

>

>

>

>

>For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

>_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

>websites:

>http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>and

>http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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i have heard from a dentist that night grinding MAY be from a bacteria that

lays dormant during the day, and is only active at night causing the night

time teeth grinding.

hth

Karla

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:34 -0400

>

>Dear Everyone:

>

>I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at night. I

>wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

>

>I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with tremendous

>success for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was incurable).

>I have been trying to put my daughter who is seven years old, very active

>and ADHD with chronic stomach aches since she was around 18 months on SCD.

>She is probably 80% compliant. Things have definitely improved but I am

>still working on 100% compliance. Its been especially difficult since we

>have displaced by the hurricane. We are from New Orleans. Living in other

>household who are not compliant is not easy but my sisters have tried to be

>supportive so I am very lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are all now

>sleeping together in the same room I've heard pretty severe teeth grinding.

> I remember there was a discussion about this a year ago but I do not

>remember the recommendations.

>

>My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and calcium

>supplement.

>

>She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on SCD which

>has complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I shouldn't

>worry about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from her cow's

>milk allergy such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe testing

>done but can't get the results because of the evacuation. Her results are

>from skin scratch test. She tested positive to squash, watermelon, orange,

>peas, string beans, peanuts, cashews, cow's milk, casein, mushrooms, and

>some more but are not on scd. Any thoughts on her food allergies would be

>welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

>

>

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i have heard from a dentist that night grinding MAY be from a bacteria that

lays dormant during the day, and is only active at night causing the night

time teeth grinding.

hth

Karla

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:34 -0400

>

>Dear Everyone:

>

>I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at night. I

>wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

>

>I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with tremendous

>success for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was incurable).

>I have been trying to put my daughter who is seven years old, very active

>and ADHD with chronic stomach aches since she was around 18 months on SCD.

>She is probably 80% compliant. Things have definitely improved but I am

>still working on 100% compliance. Its been especially difficult since we

>have displaced by the hurricane. We are from New Orleans. Living in other

>household who are not compliant is not easy but my sisters have tried to be

>supportive so I am very lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are all now

>sleeping together in the same room I've heard pretty severe teeth grinding.

> I remember there was a discussion about this a year ago but I do not

>remember the recommendations.

>

>My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and calcium

>supplement.

>

>She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on SCD which

>has complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I shouldn't

>worry about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from her cow's

>milk allergy such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe testing

>done but can't get the results because of the evacuation. Her results are

>from skin scratch test. She tested positive to squash, watermelon, orange,

>peas, string beans, peanuts, cashews, cow's milk, casein, mushrooms, and

>some more but are not on scd. Any thoughts on her food allergies would be

>welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

>

>

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i have heard from a dentist that night grinding MAY be from a bacteria that

lays dormant during the day, and is only active at night causing the night

time teeth grinding.

hth

Karla

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:34 -0400

>

>Dear Everyone:

>

>I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at night. I

>wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

>

>I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with tremendous

>success for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was incurable).

>I have been trying to put my daughter who is seven years old, very active

>and ADHD with chronic stomach aches since she was around 18 months on SCD.

>She is probably 80% compliant. Things have definitely improved but I am

>still working on 100% compliance. Its been especially difficult since we

>have displaced by the hurricane. We are from New Orleans. Living in other

>household who are not compliant is not easy but my sisters have tried to be

>supportive so I am very lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are all now

>sleeping together in the same room I've heard pretty severe teeth grinding.

> I remember there was a discussion about this a year ago but I do not

>remember the recommendations.

>

>My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and calcium

>supplement.

>

>She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on SCD which

>has complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I shouldn't

>worry about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from her cow's

>milk allergy such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe testing

>done but can't get the results because of the evacuation. Her results are

>from skin scratch test. She tested positive to squash, watermelon, orange,

>peas, string beans, peanuts, cashews, cow's milk, casein, mushrooms, and

>some more but are not on scd. Any thoughts on her food allergies would be

>welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

>

>

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Our teeth grinding was a result of a Calcium deficit. We upped the

calcuim supplement and my son stopped the grinding.

-Crystal

www.sashasrecovery.com

> i have heard from a dentist that night grinding MAY be from a

bacteria that

> lays dormant during the day, and is only active at night causing

the night

> time teeth grinding.

> hth

> Karla

>

>

>

>

> >From:

> >Reply-To: pecanbread

> >To: pecanbread >

> >Subject: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

> >Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:34 -0400

> >

> >Dear Everyone:

> >

> >I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at

night. I

> >wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

> >

> >I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with

tremendous

> >success for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was

incurable).

> >I have been trying to put my daughter who is seven years old,

very active

> >and ADHD with chronic stomach aches since she was around 18

months on SCD.

> >She is probably 80% compliant. Things have definitely improved

but I am

> >still working on 100% compliance. Its been especially difficult

since we

> >have displaced by the hurricane. We are from New Orleans.

Living in other

> >household who are not compliant is not easy but my sisters have

tried to be

> >supportive so I am very lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are

all now

> >sleeping together in the same room I've heard pretty severe teeth

grinding.

> > I remember there was a discussion about this a year ago but I

do not

> >remember the recommendations.

> >

> >My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and

calcium

> >supplement.

> >

> >She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on

SCD which

> >has complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I

shouldn't

> >worry about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from

her cow's

> >milk allergy such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe

testing

> >done but can't get the results because of the evacuation. Her

results are

> >from skin scratch test. She tested positive to squash,

watermelon, orange,

> >peas, string beans, peanuts, cashews, cow's milk, casein,

mushrooms, and

> >some more but are not on scd. Any thoughts on her food allergies

would be

> >welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

> >

> >

>

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Our teeth grinding was a result of a Calcium deficit. We upped the

calcuim supplement and my son stopped the grinding.

-Crystal

www.sashasrecovery.com

> i have heard from a dentist that night grinding MAY be from a

bacteria that

> lays dormant during the day, and is only active at night causing

the night

> time teeth grinding.

> hth

> Karla

>

>

>

>

> >From:

> >Reply-To: pecanbread

> >To: pecanbread >

> >Subject: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

> >Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:34 -0400

> >

> >Dear Everyone:

> >

> >I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at

night. I

> >wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

> >

> >I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with

tremendous

> >success for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was

incurable).

> >I have been trying to put my daughter who is seven years old,

very active

> >and ADHD with chronic stomach aches since she was around 18

months on SCD.

> >She is probably 80% compliant. Things have definitely improved

but I am

> >still working on 100% compliance. Its been especially difficult

since we

> >have displaced by the hurricane. We are from New Orleans.

Living in other

> >household who are not compliant is not easy but my sisters have

tried to be

> >supportive so I am very lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are

all now

> >sleeping together in the same room I've heard pretty severe teeth

grinding.

> > I remember there was a discussion about this a year ago but I

do not

> >remember the recommendations.

> >

> >My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and

calcium

> >supplement.

> >

> >She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on

SCD which

> >has complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I

shouldn't

> >worry about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from

her cow's

> >milk allergy such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe

testing

> >done but can't get the results because of the evacuation. Her

results are

> >from skin scratch test. She tested positive to squash,

watermelon, orange,

> >peas, string beans, peanuts, cashews, cow's milk, casein,

mushrooms, and

> >some more but are not on scd. Any thoughts on her food allergies

would be

> >welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

> >

> >

>

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Our teeth grinding was a result of a Calcium deficit. We upped the

calcuim supplement and my son stopped the grinding.

-Crystal

www.sashasrecovery.com

> i have heard from a dentist that night grinding MAY be from a

bacteria that

> lays dormant during the day, and is only active at night causing

the night

> time teeth grinding.

> hth

> Karla

>

>

>

>

> >From:

> >Reply-To: pecanbread

> >To: pecanbread >

> >Subject: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

> >Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:49:34 -0400

> >

> >Dear Everyone:

> >

> >I am writing because my daughter has been grinding her teeth at

night. I

> >wondered if anyone knew what caused this?

> >

> >I have UC and have been on the diet since last December with

tremendous

> >success for relief of my symptoms. (My doctor told me it was

incurable).

> >I have been trying to put my daughter who is seven years old,

very active

> >and ADHD with chronic stomach aches since she was around 18

months on SCD.

> >She is probably 80% compliant. Things have definitely improved

but I am

> >still working on 100% compliance. Its been especially difficult

since we

> >have displaced by the hurricane. We are from New Orleans.

Living in other

> >household who are not compliant is not easy but my sisters have

tried to be

> >supportive so I am very lucky and blessed. Anyway, since we are

all now

> >sleeping together in the same room I've heard pretty severe teeth

grinding.

> > I remember there was a discussion about this a year ago but I

do not

> >remember the recommendations.

> >

> >My daughter is currently on cod liver oil, multivitamin, and

calcium

> >supplement.

> >

> >She has tested positive to being allergic to a number of foods on

SCD which

> >has complicated things. My thought is if I get her on the diet I

shouldn't

> >worry about her allergies to fruit but still keep her away from

her cow's

> >milk allergy such as the homemade yogurt and cheeses. I had IGe

testing

> >done but can't get the results because of the evacuation. Her

results are

> >from skin scratch test. She tested positive to squash,

watermelon, orange,

> >peas, string beans, peanuts, cashews, cow's milk, casein,

mushrooms, and

> >some more but are not on scd. Any thoughts on her food allergies

would be

> >welcomed. Thank you, Eileen

> >

> >

>

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Dear tte:

Thank you for your response. She is taking 500mg of Calcium that has 100mg

Magnesium in it. Is that the right ratio? We've actually run out of the

supplement two days ago and ordered some that should be arriving this Friday at

my sister's.

Thank you for your offer of help. I feel I am one of the lucky ones because I

have family to support me. I wish I would have taken some additional gear from

my house like yogurt maker, ice cream maker and my blender but I think I was so

busy to hurricane preparations for the house that I wasn't thinking clearly. I

also think my house is ok. I am only 9 blocks from the river (furtherest point

away from the Lake in the city) and I don't think the water reached it. I feel

incredibly blessed and thankful. Hopefully, in about two weeks I will be able

to get into New Orleans and get some gear.

Thank you and take care, Eileen

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Dear tte:

Thank you for your response. She is taking 500mg of Calcium that has 100mg

Magnesium in it. Is that the right ratio? We've actually run out of the

supplement two days ago and ordered some that should be arriving this Friday at

my sister's.

Thank you for your offer of help. I feel I am one of the lucky ones because I

have family to support me. I wish I would have taken some additional gear from

my house like yogurt maker, ice cream maker and my blender but I think I was so

busy to hurricane preparations for the house that I wasn't thinking clearly. I

also think my house is ok. I am only 9 blocks from the river (furtherest point

away from the Lake in the city) and I don't think the water reached it. I feel

incredibly blessed and thankful. Hopefully, in about two weeks I will be able

to get into New Orleans and get some gear.

Thank you and take care, Eileen

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Dear tte:

Thank you for your response. She is taking 500mg of Calcium that has 100mg

Magnesium in it. Is that the right ratio? We've actually run out of the

supplement two days ago and ordered some that should be arriving this Friday at

my sister's.

Thank you for your offer of help. I feel I am one of the lucky ones because I

have family to support me. I wish I would have taken some additional gear from

my house like yogurt maker, ice cream maker and my blender but I think I was so

busy to hurricane preparations for the house that I wasn't thinking clearly. I

also think my house is ok. I am only 9 blocks from the river (furtherest point

away from the Lake in the city) and I don't think the water reached it. I feel

incredibly blessed and thankful. Hopefully, in about two weeks I will be able

to get into New Orleans and get some gear.

Thank you and take care, Eileen

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Dear tte:

I've now check to see if she is getting any potassium and doesn't look like it

so maybe that's it. We have not been eating bananas in our normal volume

because of course they need to over ripen and I used to keep them in the freezer

for smoothies. Do you think it should be given in a supplement since I was

giving her a calcium supplement? I plan to start the calcium again once I get a

refill. Thanks, Eileen

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We use all kinds of supplements but are taking Calcium Citrate for

teeth grinding. Also sometimes when my son is low in magnesuim he

teeth grinds. I rub Magnesuim Sulfate Cream on him (which is an

epsom salt cream basically) made by Kirkman's. www.kirkmanlabs.com

in the search type in magnesium sulfate cream. This is much easier

than giving epsom salt baths.

-Crystal

Sasha's Mom

>

> Dear Sasha:

>

> I knew I had heard about something like that. What supplement

have you been using? Thank you, Eileen

>

>

>

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I forgot to mention that even before the calcium deficit we were on

1000mg Calcium Citrate each day.

-Crystal

Sasha's Mom

> Dear tte:

>

> Thank you for your response. She is taking 500mg of Calcium that

has 100mg Magnesium in it. Is that the right ratio? We've actually

run out of the supplement two days ago and ordered some that should

be arriving this Friday at my sister's.

>

> Thank you for your offer of help. I feel I am one of the lucky

ones because I have family to support me. I wish I would have taken

some additional gear from my house like yogurt maker, ice cream

maker and my blender but I think I was so busy to hurricane

preparations for the house that I wasn't thinking clearly. I also

think my house is ok. I am only 9 blocks from the river (furtherest

point away from the Lake in the city) and I don't think the water

reached it. I feel incredibly blessed and thankful. Hopefully, in

about two weeks I will be able to get into New Orleans and get some

gear.

>

> Thank you and take care, Eileen

>

>

>

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Dear Nella:

I have been trying to give her enzymes. I have no fenol and an off brand from

the store that is supposed to be for vegetables. I am not very consistent with

them. When she gets a smoothie I give her the no fenol. I need to start being

more consistent. I need to do more research on the enzymes. I've been giving

her carlson cod liver oil. I think its helpin with her stomach and her eye

problems. I'm not sure really. I need more time she's only been taking it for

about a month. How does enzymes help with food allergies. Does it not allow

undigested food into the blood stream? I know this is what causes food

allergies. Thank you for your input. Eileen

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hi,

check out the link: http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussionsafety.htm

It has all the info you may need about enzymes.

There is a book about enzymes and autism.

The book is by the same woman that sponsors the site in the link.

I ordered the book on Amazon. Do not remember the exact name.

I will look it up for you if you want .

Nella

eb-psa-list@... wrote:

Dear Nella:

I have been trying to give her enzymes. I have no fenol and an off brand from

the store that is supposed to be for vegetables. I am not very consistent with

them. When she gets a smoothie I give her the no fenol. I need to start being

more consistent. I need to do more research on the enzymes. I've been giving

her carlson cod liver oil. I think its helpin with her stomach and her eye

problems. I'm not sure really. I need more time she's only been taking it for

about a month. How does enzymes help with food allergies. Does it not allow

undigested food into the blood stream? I know this is what causes food

allergies. Thank you for your input. Eileen

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Dear Eileen,

Sorry to just be getting back to you now, but it looks like you got a lot of

responses to your question! I don't think 100 mg of magnesium is enough.

Some people say 2:1 ratio, calcium to magnesium, others say 1:1 calcium to

magesium and I have even heard 1:2 calcium to magnesium. I would try about

400-500 mg of magnesium each day. If her stools get really loose, try a

different form of magnesium, glycinate or oxide. You can go up to 1000 mg of

calcium supplement. If you start the yogurt again, go back to 500 mg.

Take care,

tte

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:29:22 -0400

>

>Dear tte:

>

>Thank you for your response. She is taking 500mg of Calcium that has 100mg

>Magnesium in it. Is that the right ratio? We've actually run out of the

>supplement two days ago and ordered some that should be arriving this

>Friday at my sister's.

>

>Thank you for your offer of help. I feel I am one of the lucky ones

>because I have family to support me. I wish I would have taken some

>additional gear from my house like yogurt maker, ice cream maker and my

>blender but I think I was so busy to hurricane preparations for the house

>that I wasn't thinking clearly. I also think my house is ok. I am only 9

>blocks from the river (furtherest point away from the Lake in the city) and

>I don't think the water reached it. I feel incredibly blessed and

>thankful. Hopefully, in about two weeks I will be able to get into New

>Orleans and get some gear.

>

>Thank you and take care, Eileen

>

>

>

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Yes, you can give the potassium in a supplement. It might not be the answer

to the teeth grinding but low potassium can cause leg cramps. Supplementing

with cal/mag can throw off the cal/pot and mag/pot ratios so it is a good

idea to give a source or supplement of potassium.

Best wishes,

tte

>

>Reply-To: pecanbread

>To: pecanbread >

>Subject: Re: Re: teeth grinding and food allergies

>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:25:49 -0400

>

>Dear tte:

>

>I've now check to see if she is getting any potassium and doesn't look like

>it so maybe that's it. We have not been eating bananas in our normal

>volume because of course they need to over ripen and I used to keep them in

>the freezer for smoothies. Do you think it should be given in a supplement

>since I was giving her a calcium supplement? I plan to start the calcium

>again once I get a refill. Thanks, Eileen

>

>

>

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