Re: Need Help with SCD Second Time Around (sorry, long)

[Guest guest]

Hi Hope,

Did you by any chance use any of the BED products? Did you make

fermented foods with the BED starters? Did you ferment any food that

was not ripe?

> My son was SCD 2 years ago for 10 months. He had an overall

> regression in mood, energy levels and muscle tone though his speech

> soared for a few months on the goat yogurt and then went away. He

> developed violent headbanging behavior too.

>

> I have added potatoes and rice crackers to his diet over the past

> several months. This improved his muscle tone and mood tremendously

> and made his appetite more manageable.

>

> In the interim he developed some very bad bacteria in his stool and

> his stool, which had been perfect all his life, turned to mush. The

> digestive markers on his stool test were fine.

>

> I have tried so many things to help this stool problem and most

things

> have only caused problems. I retried SCD for 3-4 days a couple of

> times and got bad moods and no improvement in stool so I gave up.

>

> The past few weeks I wondered about constipation as well as my son

> started having bowel movements only every second day.

>

> On August 21 I decided to retry SCD again. We did the intro diet

for

> two days with chicken, eggs, goat yogurt (which he has been on

> continuously), carrots and green beans. His mood was bad.

>

> Two days later I added homemade pear sauce. I also decided to add

> magnesium citrate and calcium. I thought this might help with the

> constipation. It helped his mood a lot and the day we skipped it by

> accident his mood was abominable.

>

> I should point out that my son is different than most kids on the

> spectrum. He will eat ANYTHING, he loves to eat and he has a

> voracious appetite. He lives to eat! He has been eating over three

> pounds of carrots per day on SCD. The reason we decided not to add

> squash is that he has gone ballistic with squash in the past, his

> reaction was quite scary and my husband and I don't think we can

live

> through that again. But .... I am concerned that 3 pounds of

> carrots/day is just too much.

>

> Still, On August 28 he had 5 stool, the last 4 of which were

formed!

> I was so happy! The next day, 4 formed stool. You can guess what

> color they were - all orange!

>

> Yesterday, Gibson had only one large stool and it was much

softer ...

> and today he woke up with a mushy, yucky stool. I am so depressed

as

> I thought we were headed in the right direction. He is on minimal

> supplements and I have not made any changes.

>

> I am thinking - is it just too many carrots? Or, did SCD weaken the

> bad bacteria and then the strong ones regrouped and came back? Or,

> could he just be needing less magnesium citrate right now? I

reduced

> the dose I was originally giving by 1/3 today and we will see what

> happens. His distended abdomen seems a little worse.

>

> Any advice to get us back to formed stool? I am feeling like it

will

> never happen again. Also, when the stool is formed does that mean

> that the bad bacteria is gone or reduced or does it just mean they

are

> less active?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Hope

[Guest guest]

Elaine wants us to use the SCD legal starters. If you use the BED

starters then you might lose the benefits of SCD.

> > My son was SCD 2 years ago for 10 months. He had an overall

> > regression in mood, energy levels and muscle tone though his

speech

> > soared for a few months on the goat yogurt and then went away. He

> > developed violent headbanging behavior too.

> >

> > I have added potatoes and rice crackers to his diet over the past

> > several months. This improved his muscle tone and mood

tremendously

> > and made his appetite more manageable.

> >

> > In the interim he developed some very bad bacteria in his stool

and

> > his stool, which had been perfect all his life, turned to mush.

The

> > digestive markers on his stool test were fine.

> >

> > I have tried so many things to help this stool problem and most

> things

> > have only caused problems. I retried SCD for 3-4 days a couple of

> > times and got bad moods and no improvement in stool so I gave up.

> >

> > The past few weeks I wondered about constipation as well as my son

> > started having bowel movements only every second day.

> >

> > On August 21 I decided to retry SCD again. We did the intro diet

> for

> > two days with chicken, eggs, goat yogurt (which he has been on

> > continuously), carrots and green beans. His mood was bad.

> >

> > Two days later I added homemade pear sauce. I also decided to add

> > magnesium citrate and calcium. I thought this might help with the

> > constipation. It helped his mood a lot and the day we skipped it

by

> > accident his mood was abominable.

> >

> > I should point out that my son is different than most kids on the

> > spectrum. He will eat ANYTHING, he loves to eat and he has a

> > voracious appetite. He lives to eat! He has been eating over

three

> > pounds of carrots per day on SCD. The reason we decided not to

add

> > squash is that he has gone ballistic with squash in the past, his

> > reaction was quite scary and my husband and I don't think we can

> live

> > through that again. But .... I am concerned that 3 pounds of

> > carrots/day is just too much.

> >

> > Still, On August 28 he had 5 stool, the last 4 of which were

> formed!

> > I was so happy! The next day, 4 formed stool. You can guess what

> > color they were - all orange!

> >

> > Yesterday, Gibson had only one large stool and it was much

> softer ...

> > and today he woke up with a mushy, yucky stool. I am so

depressed

> as

> > I thought we were headed in the right direction. He is on minimal

> > supplements and I have not made any changes.

> >

> > I am thinking - is it just too many carrots? Or, did SCD weaken

the

> > bad bacteria and then the strong ones regrouped and came back?

Or,

> > could he just be needing less magnesium citrate right now? I

> reduced

> > the dose I was originally giving by 1/3 today and we will see what

> > happens. His distended abdomen seems a little worse.

> >

> > Any advice to get us back to formed stool? I am feeling like it

> will

> > never happen again. Also, when the stool is formed does that mean

> > that the bad bacteria is gone or reduced or does it just mean

they

> are

> > less active?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Hope

[Guest guest]

I think you are on the right track by reducing the magnesium citrate. Our

kiddos take it too and our DAN doc told us we could gauge how much magnesium was

needed by the formation of their stools. Too much equals runny stools, so cut

back a bit and see what happens, if no change, cut back some more. I hope this

helps some. Good luck!

>

>Date: Wed Aug 31 07:41:31 CDT 2005

>To: pecanbread

>Subject: Need Help with SCD Second Time Around (sorry, long)

>My son was SCD 2 years ago for 10 months. He had an overall

>regression in mood, energy levels and muscle tone though his speech

>soared for a few months on the goat yogurt and then went away. He

>developed violent headbanging behavior too.

>

>I have added potatoes and rice crackers to his diet over the past

>several months. This improved his muscle tone and mood tremendously

>and made his appetite more manageable.

>

>In the interim he developed some very bad bacteria in his stool and

>his stool, which had been perfect all his life, turned to mush. The

>digestive markers on his stool test were fine.

>

>I have tried so many things to help this stool problem and most things

>have only caused problems. I retried SCD for 3-4 days a couple of

>times and got bad moods and no improvement in stool so I gave up.

>

>The past few weeks I wondered about constipation as well as my son

>started having bowel movements only every second day.

>

>On August 21 I decided to retry SCD again. We did the intro diet for

>two days with chicken, eggs, goat yogurt (which he has been on

>continuously), carrots and green beans. His mood was bad.

>

>Two days later I added homemade pear sauce. I also decided to add

>magnesium citrate and calcium. I thought this might help with the

>constipation. It helped his mood a lot and the day we skipped it by

>accident his mood was abominable.

>

>I should point out that my son is different than most kids on the

>spectrum. He will eat ANYTHING, he loves to eat and he has a

>voracious appetite. He lives to eat! He has been eating over three

>pounds of carrots per day on SCD. The reason we decided not to add

>squash is that he has gone ballistic with squash in the past, his

>reaction was quite scary and my husband and I don't think we can live

>through that again. But .... I am concerned that 3 pounds of

>carrots/day is just too much.

>

>Still, On August 28 he had 5 stool, the last 4 of which were formed!

>I was so happy! The next day, 4 formed stool. You can guess what

>color they were - all orange!

>

>Yesterday, Gibson had only one large stool and it was much softer ...

>and today he woke up with a mushy, yucky stool. I am so depressed as

>I thought we were headed in the right direction. He is on minimal

>supplements and I have not made any changes.

>

>I am thinking - is it just too many carrots? Or, did SCD weaken the

>bad bacteria and then the strong ones regrouped and came back? Or,

>could he just be needing less magnesium citrate right now? I reduced

>the dose I was originally giving by 1/3 today and we will see what

>happens. His distended abdomen seems a little worse.

>

>Any advice to get us back to formed stool? I am feeling like it will

>never happen again. Also, when the stool is formed does that mean

>that the bad bacteria is gone or reduced or does it just mean they are

>less active?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Hope

>

>

>

>

>

>For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

>http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

>and

>http://www.pecanbread.com

>

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