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Dear Bern,

What a hard decision to be faced with. I know it must have caused

you quite a bit of anxiety. If nothing else this has been a learning

experience for you and your family. Besides that you have made some new

fluffy friends.I applaud your decision to take control of your health and it

sounds like you have a wonderful plan to do so. Did you and your family

drive to Durham? If so how long did it take you? I'm seriously considering

driving, (actually having Randy chauffeur me). I asked my oldest daughter

to go too. I still feel very confident about having the surgery. I know my

limitations and this is the tool I need.

I can't wait for us to get together. We don't have to wait until after our

MGBs, besides at the rate I'm going with my PI form it may be next year

before I go. HA!!HA!!

Keep In Touch,

Genz

Bernardine wrote:

> Hi Genz and Everyone,

> Well, thanks for asking. Here's the news:

> My family (hubby & 2 kids) and I travelled from Texas to NC for me to

> have surgery on 4/17/00. At the clinic on 4/15, Dr. R. gave the news

> of 's death. At that moment, I had an extremely strong

> instinct to bolt.

> When it was my turn to meet with Dr. R, I told him that I had doubts

> about proceeding with the surgery. In an instant his response was to

> not have it done and to give myself at least 6 months to see how I

> would feel.

> Even knowing I was not going to have the surgery, he proceeded to

> spend at least a 1/2 hr. with my family answering all of our

> questions. He never at any time tried to convince me to have the

> surgery. He at all times had my best interests in mind. It was also

> so clear how much pain he was in trying to cope with the loss of

> . My son (age 7) sat on his lap and later said to me that he

> thought the doctor was " great " . It's amazing how children have a

> sixth sense about people. My husband and daughter thought he was

> wonderful, too.

> So, we spent a week at the beach in NC and then returned home on

> Easter Sunday.

> I've learned a lot on this website and have read so many stories and

> have received so much encouragement.

> As my weight has not caused any major health problems, I'm going to

> try exercise and diet yet again. I'm just not ready to face the most

> severe complication. I've joined a water aerobics class at work,

> something I NEVER would have done before this website and learning

> about obesity. I now frankly don't care who sees me in a bathing

> suit, as long as I'm doing something for my health.

> By the way, Genz, I have Prudential insurance and they were

> WONDERFUL. So, be encouraged.

> Best of luck and after you and Peggy get done, maybe we could still

> meet at the juice bar at the Dallas Galleria or somewhere between

> Dallas and Tyler so we can see Pat Eppler! Anyone else in the

> Dallas area who would like to get together!

> Best wishes,

> Bern

>

>

> >

> > > Dear Pat,

> > > My prayers are with you, your son and your families. I hope you

> are

> > > well. You've made it to 3 weeks post-op. Hope you've adjusted to

> > > the

> > > liquids,etc.

> > > Sincerely,

> > > Bernardine

> > > , TX

> > >

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In a message dated 4/29/2000 2:16:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< relatives all over NC.....'s Creek,

Clayton, Ennice, sville & Lenior just to name a few towns.

My new cousin that I've been in contact with is named Lyttle and lives

in Clayton.

We have the same first name, we're close to the same age and she's short and

fat like me. >>

Hi Genz,

I'm from Lenoir, NC, I am also short (5 feet) and round as a ball.

Think we could be related? LOL LOl. My daughter lives in sville, NC.

Both are small town with Lenoir being the bigger. Its beautiful in NC with

all the mountains, I hope you get to see some of it when you go to Durham and

that you enjoy it!!!

A Little Scared, but wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

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Genz,

We flew from Dallas-Houston-Raleigh. The flights went without a

hitch. I think the drive would be hideous, especially after

surgery. I think it would take about 24 hours to get there. Then,

you have to turn around and drive back with 5 new button holes!

That would be great to take your daughter, too.

It was a major learning experience, as being on the webstie and this

onelist has been also. I just wasn't ready for the most severe

complication. I know the odds are slim (no pun intended), but with 2

small children and no real major health problems yet, it's just not

the right time.

What's the problem with the PI form? Is that the computer form that

you have to fill in and send out? It took me about an hour to fill

in. Gather all your data before you start and tell everyone the room

and computer is off-limits until you finish. When done, print and

send. Make sure to fill the form neatly and well-spoken, the Doc

uses this for his letter to insurance. My letter to Prudential was

approved in less than 8 hours! The better your inputs, the less he

has to edit your letter, the quicker it is done.

Good luck with Prudential, they were great! If you want to talk, e-

mail me privately and I'll give you my phone number:

beachwalkers@....

Best of luck

Bern

> > >

> > > > Dear Pat,

> > > > My prayers are with you, your son and your families. I hope

you

> > are

> > > > well. You've made it to 3 weeks post-op. Hope you've

adjusted to

> > > > the

> > > > liquids,etc.

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > > Bernardine

> > > > , TX

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Bernardine,

You are probably right about the drive being terrible. I just hate

those connecting flights out of Houston. Actually, I was intending to spend

some time with my new-found

cousins in NC. I always thought that my father was an only child. Well this

past Christmas

we received a call from a lady in NC that said she was my cousin. Come to

find out, my father had an older half-brother that I never knew about. My

uncle had 10 children so I have relatives all over NC.....'s Creek,

Clayton, Ennice, sville & Lenior just to name a few towns.

My new cousin that I've been in contact with is named Lyttle and lives

in Clayton.

We have the same first name, we're close to the same age and she's short and

fat like me.

Another win for the gene pool of obesity. Anyway, I was planning on a

leisurely drive up there ( I've never been to that part of the country )

visiting with relatives, having my dance with Dr. R, and visiting with

relatives some more. Heck, if I like it I may never leave. My daughter is a

stay at home mom and would be able to stay as long as I do because we would

take my granddaughter with us. Now as far as Randy is concerned, I guess he

would eventually have to go back to work. So I suppose he would drive us up

there, stay for the surgery, fly home, go to work, then fly back in time to

drive us home. HUMMMM.................. I wonder if I can get him to agree

to this. Probably NOT.....

We will probably end up flying and renting a car. Oh well, so much for my

travel plans.

Actually I don't care how I get there as long as I have my MGB.

I'll keep you posted.

Love,

Genz

Bernardine wrote:

> Genz,

> We flew from Dallas-Houston-Raleigh. The flights went without a

> hitch. I think the drive would be hideous, especially after

> surgery. I think it would take about 24 hours to get there. Then,

> you have to turn around and drive back with 5 new button holes!

> That would be great to take your daughter, too.

> It was a major learning experience, as being on the webstie and this

> onelist has been also. I just wasn't ready for the most severe

> complication. I know the odds are slim (no pun intended), but with 2

> small children and no real major health problems yet, it's just not

> the right time.

> What's the problem with the PI form? Is that the computer form that

> you have to fill in and send out? It took me about an hour to fill

> in. Gather all your data before you start and tell everyone the room

> and computer is off-limits until you finish. When done, print and

> send. Make sure to fill the form neatly and well-spoken, the Doc

> uses this for his letter to insurance. My letter to Prudential was

> approved in less than 8 hours! The better your inputs, the less he

> has to edit your letter, the quicker it is done.

> Good luck with Prudential, they were great! If you want to talk, e-

> mail me privately and I'll give you my phone number:

> beachwalkers@....

>

> Best of luck

> Bern

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Pat,

> > > > > My prayers are with you, your son and your families. I hope

> you

> > > are

> > > > > well. You've made it to 3 weeks post-op. Hope you've

> adjusted to

> > > > > the

> > > > > liquids,etc.

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > Bernardine

> > > > > , TX

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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Dear Bernardine,

You are probably right about the drive being terrible. I just hate

those connecting flights out of Houston. Actually, I was intending to spend

some time with my new-found

cousins in NC. I always thought that my father was an only child. Well this

past Christmas

we received a call from a lady in NC that said she was my cousin. Come to

find out, my father had an older half-brother that I never knew about. My

uncle had 10 children so I have relatives all over NC.....'s Creek,

Clayton, Ennice, sville & Lenior just to name a few towns.

My new cousin that I've been in contact with is named Lyttle and lives

in Clayton.

We have the same first name, we're close to the same age and she's short and

fat like me.

Another win for the gene pool of obesity. Anyway, I was planning on a

leisurely drive up there ( I've never been to that part of the country )

visiting with relatives, having my dance with Dr. R, and visiting with

relatives some more. Heck, if I like it I may never leave. My daughter is a

stay at home mom and would be able to stay as long as I do because we would

take my granddaughter with us. Now as far as Randy is concerned, I guess he

would eventually have to go back to work. So I suppose he would drive us up

there, stay for the surgery, fly home, go to work, then fly back in time to

drive us home. HUMMMM.................. I wonder if I can get him to agree

to this. Probably NOT.....

We will probably end up flying and renting a car. Oh well, so much for my

travel plans.

Actually I don't care how I get there as long as I have my MGB.

I'll keep you posted.

Love,

Genz

Bernardine wrote:

> Genz,

> We flew from Dallas-Houston-Raleigh. The flights went without a

> hitch. I think the drive would be hideous, especially after

> surgery. I think it would take about 24 hours to get there. Then,

> you have to turn around and drive back with 5 new button holes!

> That would be great to take your daughter, too.

> It was a major learning experience, as being on the webstie and this

> onelist has been also. I just wasn't ready for the most severe

> complication. I know the odds are slim (no pun intended), but with 2

> small children and no real major health problems yet, it's just not

> the right time.

> What's the problem with the PI form? Is that the computer form that

> you have to fill in and send out? It took me about an hour to fill

> in. Gather all your data before you start and tell everyone the room

> and computer is off-limits until you finish. When done, print and

> send. Make sure to fill the form neatly and well-spoken, the Doc

> uses this for his letter to insurance. My letter to Prudential was

> approved in less than 8 hours! The better your inputs, the less he

> has to edit your letter, the quicker it is done.

> Good luck with Prudential, they were great! If you want to talk, e-

> mail me privately and I'll give you my phone number:

> beachwalkers@....

>

> Best of luck

> Bern

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Pat,

> > > > > My prayers are with you, your son and your families. I hope

> you

> > > are

> > > > > well. You've made it to 3 weeks post-op. Hope you've

> adjusted to

> > > > > the

> > > > > liquids,etc.

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > Bernardine

> > > > > , TX

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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Dear Bernardine,

You are probably right about the drive being terrible. I just hate

those connecting flights out of Houston. Actually, I was intending to spend

some time with my new-found

cousins in NC. I always thought that my father was an only child. Well this

past Christmas

we received a call from a lady in NC that said she was my cousin. Come to

find out, my father had an older half-brother that I never knew about. My

uncle had 10 children so I have relatives all over NC.....'s Creek,

Clayton, Ennice, sville & Lenior just to name a few towns.

My new cousin that I've been in contact with is named Lyttle and lives

in Clayton.

We have the same first name, we're close to the same age and she's short and

fat like me.

Another win for the gene pool of obesity. Anyway, I was planning on a

leisurely drive up there ( I've never been to that part of the country )

visiting with relatives, having my dance with Dr. R, and visiting with

relatives some more. Heck, if I like it I may never leave. My daughter is a

stay at home mom and would be able to stay as long as I do because we would

take my granddaughter with us. Now as far as Randy is concerned, I guess he

would eventually have to go back to work. So I suppose he would drive us up

there, stay for the surgery, fly home, go to work, then fly back in time to

drive us home. HUMMMM.................. I wonder if I can get him to agree

to this. Probably NOT.....

We will probably end up flying and renting a car. Oh well, so much for my

travel plans.

Actually I don't care how I get there as long as I have my MGB.

I'll keep you posted.

Love,

Genz

Bernardine wrote:

> Genz,

> We flew from Dallas-Houston-Raleigh. The flights went without a

> hitch. I think the drive would be hideous, especially after

> surgery. I think it would take about 24 hours to get there. Then,

> you have to turn around and drive back with 5 new button holes!

> That would be great to take your daughter, too.

> It was a major learning experience, as being on the webstie and this

> onelist has been also. I just wasn't ready for the most severe

> complication. I know the odds are slim (no pun intended), but with 2

> small children and no real major health problems yet, it's just not

> the right time.

> What's the problem with the PI form? Is that the computer form that

> you have to fill in and send out? It took me about an hour to fill

> in. Gather all your data before you start and tell everyone the room

> and computer is off-limits until you finish. When done, print and

> send. Make sure to fill the form neatly and well-spoken, the Doc

> uses this for his letter to insurance. My letter to Prudential was

> approved in less than 8 hours! The better your inputs, the less he

> has to edit your letter, the quicker it is done.

> Good luck with Prudential, they were great! If you want to talk, e-

> mail me privately and I'll give you my phone number:

> beachwalkers@....

>

> Best of luck

> Bern

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Pat,

> > > > > My prayers are with you, your son and your families. I hope

> you

> > > are

> > > > > well. You've made it to 3 weeks post-op. Hope you've

> adjusted to

> > > > > the

> > > > > liquids,etc.

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > > Bernardine

> > > > > , TX

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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In a message dated 4/29/2000 4:37:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

smootgen@... writes:

<< Dear Cathy,

If your last name is Kerley we could be related. By your description

we

still might be related. From what I understand my grandma was pretty wild.

If not

you might know my cousins. Albert Cleatus Kerley lives in Lenoir and

Wayne Kerley lives in sville. I'm 5'3 " and my cousin is 4'11 1/4

"

she always throws in that 1/4 " .

I'm really looking forward to seeing that beautiful countryside. I get tired

of

looking at concrete. I've decided to wait until next wednesday to complete my

patient information form. I have an appointment with a cardiologist for my

echocardigram on tuesday. Who knows maybe we can both dance with Dr. R on the

same day. How far are you in this process? Let me know.

Bye Cuz,

Genz >>

Hi Genz,

My married name is Morrow, my maiden name is Shew, so I don't guess

we're related, you're family sounds kinda like mine except it was my

grandfather who was sorta wild and he was a preacher. (so he said) LOl LOL .

It is pretty here, Durham is kinda in the central part of the state, I'm

(Lenoir) in the Northwest end of the state, lots of mountains.

I'm going to try to send my patient info in tomorrow or Monday

(been a tad chicken about all of this). I saw my PCP and he said he would do

aftercare if I agreed to new bloodwork (last was in Nov.) an EKG and a

treadmill test. I had told him I get short of breath when I try to do

anything very physical so he wants to do all this to rule out any cardiac

problems and to make sure I can survive the surgery. It's a pain, but I guess

I should be grateful he's looking out for my survival. I've written my

patient letter, but that's about all I've done, have to see what Ins. says

before I go any farther. My sister is having her MGB on May 12th so I'll get

some first hand knowledge of the procedure and maybe that will help alleviate

my fear a little. I really want this and need it so who knows maybe we will

dance together with Dr. R (wonder if he can do the hustle) LOL LOL. My age is

showing with that remark. LOL LOL.

A Little Scared, but wanting

to be on the other side,

Cathy in Lenoir, NC

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Dear Cathy,

If your last name is Kerley we could be related. By your description we

still might be related. From what I understand my grandma was pretty wild. If

not

you might know my cousins. Albert Cleatus Kerley lives in Lenoir and

Wayne Kerley lives in sville. I'm 5'3 " and my cousin is 4'11 1/4 "

she always throws in that 1/4 " .

I'm really looking forward to seeing that beautiful countryside. I get tired of

looking at concrete. I've decided to wait until next wednesday to complete my

patient information form. I have an appointment with a cardiologist for my

echocardigram on tuesday. Who knows maybe we can both dance with Dr. R on the

same day. How far are you in this process? Let me know.

Bye Cuz,

Genz

CMo6331945@... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/29/2000 2:16:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> smootgen@... writes:

>

> << relatives all over NC.....'s Creek,

> Clayton, Ennice, sville & Lenior just to name a few towns.

> My new cousin that I've been in contact with is named Lyttle and lives

> in Clayton.

> We have the same first name, we're close to the same age and she's short and

> fat like me. >>

> Hi Genz,

> I'm from Lenoir, NC, I am also short (5 feet) and round as a ball.

> Think we could be related? LOL LOl. My daughter lives in sville, NC.

> Both are small town with Lenoir being the bigger. Its beautiful in NC with

> all the mountains, I hope you get to see some of it when you go to Durham and

> that you enjoy it!!!

>

> A Little Scared, but wanting

> to be on the other side,

> Cathy in Lenoir, NC

>

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