Guest guest Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 , I generally like your posts and find you a very interesting resource. I certainly don't want you to leave. However, you should realize that every once in a while you depart from your biomedical talks to make a personal comment or observation and I believe this is the source of the problems. It's a bit like going up to someone that you don't know and saying " You're fat. You'd better lose weight or you're going to die. " It may be honest and direct, but when someone is embarrassed and hurt, their brain is going to be too emotionally preoccupied to be receptive to the truth - a bit like trying to swallow a bitter pill. Knowing that it's good for you and that you need to do it doesn't stop you from gagging on the nasty thing and it doesn't go down any easier for the knowledge. This happens to men, too. The variation is generally in what men are sensitive to & the manner in which they handle it. And recognizing these as generalizations means that it is necessary to remember that every individual varies in sensitivity and reaction as well. Even absent the presence of yeast, stress, fatigue and all those other extra negative influences people might be dealing with, too. You don't have to go to great lengths to make your statements more digestible. Generally, just turning a negative statement positive will suffice - like " losing weight will help you feel better and live longer " . (Notice that the direct personal observation that the person is fat is left out, but it still indicates that the need to lose weight is there) Choosing your words with a little care can make so much difference in the receptiveness of the person you're talking to. Some words can be expected to provoke more negative reactions than others. (Like fat vs. overweight or difficult vs. challenging or whine vs. plead and so on) If a person has been told or has read something from a source that they have been able to rely on in the past, they will naturally question someone who tells them something different and be more resistant. In those cases, invite observation and comparison as you so often do and then let them learn. That is the way of human nature. And so many members here have said as much - that they learned you were right and then they started listening to you better. Making the " medicine " pallatable makes all the difference in getting people to accept it. Looking forward to reading more of your biomedical info, ~Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Thanks, ! That was a prime example of what I am talking about and very helpful! Have a great day! :-) ~Grace Defending the mothers of Autism/ / Was Re: scd and putting on muscle the female brain can decline in a drastic way from about 35 on, if i were you i would look to your own issues and stop projecting about mine do you have amalgams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hi Carol, Yes,it was Bruno Bettleheim who propagated this dastardly accusation. I read his biography;what a tragedy! He was in a concentration camp and became very disturbed because of this experience. It is a similar situation to that of abused children who grow up becoming abusers themselves:one tragedy leads to another... So his accusations led to another group being persecuted:the mothers of autism. It took a long time for the mothers of autism to be vindicated. There are many mothers on this list who have suffered so much. That is why I am willing to stand up when anyone speaks rudely about the mothers of autism. I am not disputing the fact that many of them are suffering from heavy metal poisoning. Personally speaking,I have no ill felings towards . I admire all the incredible progress he has made,his dedication to helping others and his vast knowledge. Even his social skills,I consider to be fine compared to those of the older generation of ASD folks. As the mother of an adult man who was born with ASD,I am very aware of the lack of good resources during those times. Many years ago,when I found new treatments for my children,I met excellent mothers who had older high functioning ASD sons and daughters who were unbelievably violent. One had even murdered an infant. Autism makes a devastating injury to the social skills of adults who did not get the right treatments. told me that is about 30 or 40 years old;there was no help for ASD children when was young. I agree that we should return back to talking about SCD. Mimi > > Elaine showed me the old video about the poor mothers in the 1950's who were blamed > for their children's autism and dubbed " Refrigerator Moms. " I was horrified. Was it Bruno > Bettleheim who propagated this dastardly accusation? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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