Re: Hos[italized for Scorpion Sting

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That is so scary Patty what an awful thing to go through.

I hope you feel better soon.

Thank goodness for cold rainy England the worse critter we get is a wasp !!!

Love Sue 

On 4/17/09, glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

Hi Ladies,I wanted to share my recent experience with a scorpion sting tohighlight how necessary it is for us to be vigilant with our health andrealize that because of our breast implant experiences and immune system

involvement it is vital that we take precautions in circumstances where " normal " people may not react as strongly.I was just released from the hospital this morning after being admittedlate Wednesday night. On Wednesday morning, while getting settled for

my 10 AM biology class on campus, I stuck my hand in my bookbag, unawarethat a scorpion had made its way there overnight. I got stung, butdidn't know what had caused it right away. I thought I had just brushed

up against a sharp object in my bag. After a few minutes where thepain got worse and worse, I decided to dump out my bookbag and see ifthere was some kind of bug in there, as we've had scorpions in our house

on occasion. Sure enough, when I dumped out my bookbag on the floor, ascorpion crawled out. I was really freaked.I called 911, and the paramedics came and checked me over and said I wasgood. I refused a hospital trip at that time, because there were no

obvious signs of distress: my heart rate was fine, blood pressure fine,no swelling or signs of anykind of shock. The paramedics didn't seemtoo concerned. They gave me some ice packs to place on the sting site

and I went to class. Over the course of the class, my right hand becometingly and after the ice packs lost their coldness, the painintensified. I could not wait to get home, and on my 20 minute drive,the pain got worse and worse. I was screaming in my car. I have never

experienced so much pain in my life. It was incredible!At home, I applied more ice, took a tylenol, and rested. I read theinternet sites to see how to treat a scorpion sting, and they all seemedto indicate that it was not a medical emergency. There was discussion

of the treatment for the mild symtpoms and the more serious ones. Italked to my sister who is a nurse and my son's friend who is aparamedic, and they all said that though the pain is very intense, thereis no need to go to the hospital. Generally, the sting is more dangerous

for those who are very young or very old, or those who have an immediatereaction going into shock. I certainly didn't fit that mold.After lunch, I noticed that the tingling sensation that had crawled from

my wrist to my elbow, now was showing up in my feet. Both of my feetwere tingling. Next it went to my left hand. All of my extremtiescontinued to get worse and worse with no let up. I called poisoncontrol, and they discussed pretty much what everything else said.

Nothing to get too worried about, unless I develop more serioussymptoms.The rest of the day I just tried to deal with the pain, and decided totry hydrocodone as the tylenol didn't touch it. By evening, I started

noticing some weird eye problems, a little blurring, kind of like what Ihad with my breast implants. Since I had that before, I wasconfused...was this from the scorpion sting, or was it my old visionproblems kicking in from the stress of the sting? I called poison

control again, and this time the girl said that if visions problemswere present it would be a good idea to go in.By 10 PM, the tingling in my extremities was intense and unrelenting. My vision was weird. Then my nose started feeling like it was drying up

inside my head and all the cartilage was turning to clay. It was thestrangest feeling! I was scared, but still vascillating on going to theemergency room. In fact once I got there, the receiving nurse smiledwhen I said that I got stung by a scorpion and said that they would not

admit me. They said they see alot of scorpion stings, and generallythey just give a benadryl and send the people home. At that point Itold my husband I just wanted to go home then and get a benadryl at thedrug store and save our money. But thank God for my husband! He

insisted that we let the doctor see me anyway.The clincher was the eye test. The doctor didn't want to admit me atfirst either...they gave me an Ativan, said they would evaluate me againin an hour. It was at that 2nd evaluation when my doctor tested my eye

response and decided to admit me then and there because my eyes were notresponding right.In fact, I started seeing double vision. My body was having a systemicreaction that was slow and unexpected and if it wasn't for my husband

speaking up, I would have made a wrong decision to ignore the signs.My treatment was steriods, which eventually resolved the tingling in 3of my extremities and the double vision. I was on methylprednisolone,

60 mg 4 times a day by IV.My right hand is still affected and it could last up to a monthaccording to the doctor. It is numb at the site of the sting, and myfingers aren't working so well due to the intense tingling.

I believe that while I didn't have an immediate reaction that was lifethreatening, my immune system could not properly handle the effects ofthe neurotoxic venom. I need to remember, just as we ALL need to

remember, that even though we are feeling better with the breastimplants out, we are still not fully recovered to our former robusthealth. Since doing well in my life and feeling that I can handle somuch, I really didn't know how to interpret all of the information that

I was reading on the internet and getting from the medical professionalsregarding this scorpion sting. The doctor in the emergency room told myhusband that I was the very first adult that he had ever admitted to the

hospital due to a scorpion sting. He stated that generally a normal,healthy person does not have a delayed reaction like I did. I hadrevealed to the doctor that I had an autoimmune condition--theHashimoto's--but of course, I never brought up the breast implants, as

that would have really labeled me a nutcase then.But I believe the bottom line lesson that I have taken away from thisexperience and want to share with you is that when you encounter anykind of poison, insect venom, or any substance or experience that has

any potential effect on your immune system, don't make the mistake ofthinking that your reaction is necessarily going to be a normal one! !!Always make the exception and consider that your immune system may have

trouble recovering and a serious reaction can involved a delayedreaction! I wonder what would have happened to me if the neurotoxiceffects had been left unchecked....if I had just gone to bed that nightinstead of going to the emergency room? My nerves were under attack,

that much I know.I'm thankful that the doctor recognized that myabnormal eye movementsmeant something more, and went ahead and admitted me, as much as I hatehospitals. Now I think I hate something even more....SCORPIONS!!!

Hugs,Patty

[Guest guest]

Oh, Sweet Patty:

This is awful, and we are sorry that you were bitten. I have never seen a Scorpion, and never want to. Please try to relax and allow your body to heal. Bless your husband for stepping up, because you were in trouble. Some doctors are not aware that we all react differently to toxins, and you were at risk after having breast implants.

Stay close...sending love always....Lea

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Hos[italized for Scorpion Sting

Hi Ladies,I wanted to share my recent experience with a scorpion sting tohighlight how necessary it is for us to be vigilant with our health andrealize that because of our breast implant experiences and immune systeminvolvement it is vital that we take precautions in circumstances where"normal" people may not react as strongly.I was just released from the hospital this morning after being admittedlate Wednesday night. On Wednesday morning, while getting settled formy 10 AM biology class on campus, I stuck my hand in my bookbag, unawarethat a scorpion had made its way there overnight. I got stung, butdidn't know what had caused it right away. I thought I had just brushedup against a sharp object in my bag. After a few minutes where thepain got worse and worse, I decided to dump out my bookbag and see ifthere was some kind of bug in there, as we've had scorpions in our houseon occasion. Sure enough, when I dumped out my bookbag on the floor, ascorpion crawled out. I was really freaked.I called 911, and the paramedics came and checked me over and said I wasgood. I refused a hospital trip at that time, because there were noobvious signs of distress: my heart rate was fine, blood pressure fine,no swelling or signs of anykind of shock. The paramedics didn't seemtoo concerned. They gave me some ice packs to place on the sting siteand I went to class. Over the course of the class, my right hand becometingly and after the ice packs lost their coldness, the painintensified. I could not wait to get home, and on my 20 minute drive,the pain got worse and worse. I was screaming in my car. I have neverexperienced so much pain in my life. It was incredible!At home, I applied more ice, took a tylenol, and rested. I read theinternet sites to see how to treat a scorpion sting, and they all seemedto indicate that it was not a medical emergency. There was discussionof the treatment for the mild symtpoms and the more serious ones. Italked to my sister who is a nurse and my son's friend who is aparamedic, and they all said that though the pain is very intense, thereis no need to go to the hospital. Generally, the sting is more dangerousfor those who are very young or very old, or those who have an immediatereaction going into shock. I certainly didn't fit that mold.After lunch, I noticed that the tingling sensation that had crawled frommy wrist to my elbow, now was showing up in my feet. Both of my feetwere tingling. Next it went to my left hand. All of my extremtiescontinued to get worse and worse with no let up. I called poisoncontrol, and they discussed pretty much what everything else said. Nothing to get too worried about, unless I develop more serioussymptoms.The rest of the day I just tried to deal with the pain, and decided totry hydrocodone as the tylenol didn't touch it. By evening, I startednoticing some weird eye problems, a little blurring, kind of like what Ihad with my breast implants. Since I had that before, I wasconfused...was this from the scorpion sting, or was it my old visionproblems kicking in from the stress of the sting? I called poisoncontrol again, and this time the girl said that if visions problemswere present it would be a good idea to go in.By 10 PM, the tingling in my extremities was intense and unrelenting. My vision was weird. Then my nose started feeling like it was drying upinside my head and all the cartilage was turning to clay. It was thestrangest feeling! I was scared, but still vascillating on going to theemergency room. In fact once I got there, the receiving nurse smiledwhen I said that I got stung by a scorpion and said that they would notadmit me. They said they see alot of scorpion stings, and generallythey just give a benadryl and send the people home. At that point Itold my husband I just wanted to go home then and get a benadryl at thedrug store and save our money. But thank God for my husband! Heinsisted that we let the doctor see me anyway.The clincher was the eye test. The doctor didn't want to admit me atfirst either...they gave me an Ativan, said they would evaluate me againin an hour. It was at that 2nd evaluation when my doctor tested my eyeresponse and decided to admit me then and there because my eyes were notresponding right.In fact, I started seeing double vision. My body was having a systemicreaction that was slow and unexpected and if it wasn't for my husbandspeaking up, I would have made a wrong decision to ignore the signs.My treatment was steriods, which eventually resolved the tingling in 3of my extremities and the double vision. I was on methylprednisolone, 60 mg 4 times a day by IV.My right hand is still affected and it could last up to a monthaccording to the doctor. It is numb at the site of the sting, and myfingers aren't working so well due to the intense tingling.I believe that while I didn't have an immediate reaction that was lifethreatening, my immune system could not properly handle the effects ofthe neurotoxic venom. I need to remember, just as we ALL need toremember, that even though we are feeling better with the breastimplants out, we are still not fully recovered to our former robusthealth. Since doing well in my life and feeling that I can handle somuch, I really didn't know how to interpret all of the information thatI was reading on the internet and getting from the medical professionalsregarding this scorpion sting. The doctor in the emergency room told myhusband that I was the very first adult that he had ever admitted to thehospital due to a scorpion sting. He stated that generally a normal,healthy person does not have a delayed reaction like I did. I hadrevealed to the doctor that I had an autoimmune condition--theHashimoto's--but of course, I never brought up the breast implants, asthat would have really labeled me a nutcase then.But I believe the bottom line lesson that I have taken away from thisexperience and want to share with you is that when you encounter anykind of poison, insect venom, or any substance or experience that hasany potential effect on your immune system, don't make the mistake ofthinking that your reaction is necessarily going to be a normal one! !!Always make the exception and consider that your immune system may havetrouble recovering and a serious reaction can involved a delayedreaction! I wonder what would have happened to me if the neurotoxiceffects had been left unchecked....if I had just gone to bed that nightinstead of going to the emergency room? My nerves were under attack,that much I know.I'm thankful that the doctor recognized that myabnormal eye movementsmeant something more, and went ahead and admitted me, as much as I hatehospitals. Now I think I hate something even more....SCORPIONS!!!Hugs,Patty

[Guest guest]

hi patty;

yes, hope you get better soon - i think you're right about us silicone persons having long-term problems. i get furious every time i hear some idiot dr. say it doesnt cause problems.

where do you live? they have scorpions where i am also - guess the little ones are worse - is that what yours was?

take care - are you taking lots of vit. c for neutralizing toxin?

gg

Hos[italized for Scorpion Sting

Hi Ladies,I wanted to share my recent experience with a scorpion sting tohighlight how necessary it is for us to be vigilant with our health andrealize that because of our breast implant experiences and immune systeminvolvement it is vital that we take precautions in circumstances where"normal" people may not react as strongly.I was just released from the hospital this morning after being admittedlate Wednesday night. On Wednesday morning, while getting settled formy 10 AM biology class on campus, I stuck my hand in my bookbag, unawarethat a scorpion had made its way there overnight. I got stung, butdidn't know what had caused it right away. I thought I had just brushedup against a sharp object in my bag. After a few minutes where thepain got worse and worse, I decided to dump out my bookbag and see ifthere was some kind of bug in there, as we've had scorpions in our houseon occasion. Sure enough, when I dumped out my bookbag on the floor, ascorpion crawled out. I was really freaked.I called 911, and the paramedics came and checked me over and said I wasgood. I refused a hospital trip at that time, because there were noobvious signs of distress: my heart rate was fine, blood pressure fine,no swelling or signs of anykind of shock. The paramedics didn't seemtoo concerned. They gave me some ice packs to place on the sting siteand I went to class. Over the course of the class, my right hand becometingly and after the ice packs lost their coldness, the painintensified. I could not wait to get home, and on my 20 minute drive,the pain got worse and worse. I was screaming in my car. I have neverexperienced so much pain in my life. It was incredible!At home, I applied more ice, took a tylenol, and rested. I read theinternet sites to see how to treat a scorpion sting, and they all seemedto indicate that it was not a medical emergency. There was discussionof the treatment for the mild symtpoms and the more serious ones. Italked to my sister who is a nurse and my son's friend who is aparamedic, and they all said that though the pain is very intense, thereis no need to go to the hospital. Generally, the sting is more dangerousfor those who are very young or very old, or those who have an immediatereaction going into shock. I certainly didn't fit that mold.After lunch, I noticed that the tingling sensation that had crawled frommy wrist to my elbow, now was showing up in my feet. Both of my feetwere tingling. Next it went to my left hand. All of my extremtiescontinued to get worse and worse with no let up. I called poisoncontrol, and they discussed pretty much what everything else said. Nothing to get too worried about, unless I develop more serioussymptoms.The rest of the day I just tried to deal with the pain, and decided totry hydrocodone as the tylenol didn't touch it. By evening, I startednoticing some weird eye problems, a little blurring, kind of like what Ihad with my breast implants. Since I had that before, I wasconfused...was this from the scorpion sting, or was it my old visionproblems kicking in from the stress of the sting? I called poisoncontrol again, and this time the girl said that if visions problemswere present it would be a good idea to go in.By 10 PM, the tingling in my extremities was intense and unrelenting. My vision was weird. Then my nose started feeling like it was drying upinside my head and all the cartilage was turning to clay. It was thestrangest feeling! I was scared, but still vascillating on going to theemergency room. In fact once I got there, the receiving nurse smiledwhen I said that I got stung by a scorpion and said that they would notadmit me. They said they see alot of scorpion stings, and generallythey just give a benadryl and send the people home. At that point Itold my husband I just wanted to go home then and get a benadryl at thedrug store and save our money. But thank God for my husband! Heinsisted that we let the doctor see me anyway.The clincher was the eye test. The doctor didn't want to admit me atfirst either...they gave me an Ativan, said they would evaluate me againin an hour. It was at that 2nd evaluation when my doctor tested my eyeresponse and decided to admit me then and there because my eyes were notresponding right.In fact, I started seeing double vision. My body was having a systemicreaction that was slow and unexpected and if it wasn't for my husbandspeaking up, I would have made a wrong decision to ignore the signs.My treatment was steriods, which eventually resolved the tingling in 3of my extremities and the double vision. I was on methylprednisolone, 60 mg 4 times a day by IV.My right hand is still affected and it could last up to a monthaccording to the doctor. It is numb at the site of the sting, and myfingers aren't working so well due to the intense tingling.I believe that while I didn't have an immediate reaction that was lifethreatening, my immune system could not properly handle the effects ofthe neurotoxic venom. I need to remember, just as we ALL need toremember, that even though we are feeling better with the breastimplants out, we are still not fully recovered to our former robusthealth. Since doing well in my life and feeling that I can handle somuch, I really didn't know how to interpret all of the information thatI was reading on the internet and getting from the medical professionalsregarding this scorpion sting. The doctor in the emergency room told myhusband that I was the very first adult that he had ever admitted to thehospital due to a scorpion sting. He stated that generally a normal,healthy person does not have a delayed reaction like I did. I hadrevealed to the doctor that I had an autoimmune condition--theHashimoto's--but of course, I never brought up the breast implants, asthat would have really labeled me a nutcase then.But I believe the bottom line lesson that I have taken away from thisexperience and want to share with you is that when you encounter anykind of poison, insect venom, or any substance or experience that hasany potential effect on your immune system, don't make the mistake ofthinking that your reaction is necessarily going to be a normal one! !!Always make the exception and consider that your immune system may havetrouble recovering and a serious reaction can involved a delayedreaction! I wonder what would have happened to me if the neurotoxiceffects had been left unchecked....if I had just gone to bed that nightinstead of going to the emergency room? My nerves were under attack,that much I know.I'm thankful that the doctor recognized that myabnormal eye movementsmeant something more, and went ahead and admitted me, as much as I hatehospitals. Now I think I hate something even more....SCORPIONS!!!Hugs,Patty

[Guest guest]

god Bless you sweety, hpoe for a good recovery, thanx 4 ssharin'

From: gayle <glass3311@...> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 2:04:52 PMSubject: Re: Hos[italized for Scorpion Sting

hi patty;

yes, hope you get better soon - i think you're right about us silicone persons having long-term problems. i get furious every time i hear some idiot dr. say it doesnt cause problems.

where do you live? they have scorpions where i am also - guess the little ones are worse - is that what yours was?

take care - are you taking lots of vit. c for neutralizing toxin?

gg

Hos[italized for Scorpion Sting

Hi Ladies,I wanted to share my recent experience with a scorpion sting tohighlight how necessary it is for us to be vigilant with our health andrealize that because of our breast implant experiences and immune systeminvolvement it is vital that we take precautions in circumstances where"normal" people may not react as strongly.I was just released from the hospital this morning after being admittedlate Wednesday night.. On Wednesday morning, while getting settled formy 10 AM biology class on campus, I stuck my hand in my bookbag, unawarethat a scorpion had made its way there overnight. I got stung, butdidn't know what had caused it right away. I thought I had just brushedup against a sharp object in my bag. After a few minutes where thepain got worse and worse, I decided to dump out my bookbag and see ifthere was some kind of bug in there, as we've had scorpions in our houseon occasion. Sure

enough, when I dumped out my bookbag on the floor, ascorpion crawled out. I was really freaked.I called 911, and the paramedics came and checked me over and said I wasgood. I refused a hospital trip at that time, because there were noobvious signs of distress: my heart rate was fine, blood pressure fine,no swelling or signs of anykind of shock. The paramedics didn't seemtoo concerned. They gave me some ice packs to place on the sting siteand I went to class. Over the course of the class, my right hand becometingly and after the ice packs lost their coldness, the painintensified. I could not wait to get home, and on my 20 minute drive,the pain got worse and worse. I was screaming in my car. I have neverexperienced so much pain in my life. It was incredible!At home, I applied more ice, took a tylenol, and rested. I read theinternet sites to see how to treat a scorpion sting, and they all

seemedto indicate that it was not a medical emergency. There was discussionof the treatment for the mild symtpoms and the more serious ones. Italked to my sister who is a nurse and my son's friend who is aparamedic, and they all said that though the pain is very intense, thereis no need to go to the hospital. Generally, the sting is more dangerousfor those who are very young or very old, or those who have an immediatereaction going into shock. I certainly didn't fit that mold.After lunch, I noticed that the tingling sensation that had crawled frommy wrist to my elbow, now was showing up in my feet. Both of my feetwere tingling. Next it went to my left hand. All of my extremtiescontinued to get worse and worse with no let up. I called poisoncontrol, and they discussed pretty much what everything else said. Nothing to get too worried about, unless I develop more serioussymptoms.The rest

of the day I just tried to deal with the pain, and decided totry hydrocodone as the tylenol didn't touch it. By evening, I startednoticing some weird eye problems, a little blurring, kind of like what Ihad with my breast implants. Since I had that before, I wasconfused...was this from the scorpion sting, or was it my old visionproblems kicking in from the stress of the sting? I called poisoncontrol again, and this time the girl said that if visions problemswere present it would be a good idea to go in.By 10 PM, the tingling in my extremities was intense and unrelenting. My vision was weird. Then my nose started feeling like it was drying upinside my head and all the cartilage was turning to clay. It was thestrangest feeling! I was scared, but still vascillating on going to theemergency room. In fact once I got there, the receiving nurse smiledwhen I said that I got stung by a scorpion and said that

they would notadmit me. They said they see alot of scorpion stings, and generallythey just give a benadryl and send the people home. At that point Itold my husband I just wanted to go home then and get a benadryl at thedrug store and save our money. But thank God for my husband! Heinsisted that we let the doctor see me anyway.The clincher was the eye test. The doctor didn't want to admit me atfirst either...they gave me an Ativan, said they would evaluate me againin an hour. It was at that 2nd evaluation when my doctor tested my eyeresponse and decided to admit me then and there because my eyes were notresponding right.In fact, I started seeing double vision. My body was having a systemicreaction that was slow and unexpected and if it wasn't for my husbandspeaking up, I would have made a wrong decision to ignore the signs.My treatment was steriods, which eventually resolved the tingling

in 3of my extremities and the double vision. I was on methylprednisolone, 60 mg 4 times a day by IV.My right hand is still affected and it could last up to a monthaccording to the doctor. It is numb at the site of the sting, and myfingers aren't working so well due to the intense tingling.I believe that while I didn't have an immediate reaction that was lifethreatening, my immune system could not properly handle the effects ofthe neurotoxic venom. I need to remember, just as we ALL need toremember, that even though we are feeling better with the breastimplants out, we are still not fully recovered to our former robusthealth. Since doing well in my life and feeling that I can handle somuch, I really didn't know how to interpret all of the information thatI was reading on the internet and getting from the medical professionalsregarding this scorpion sting. The doctor in the emergency room

told myhusband that I was the very first adult that he had ever admitted to thehospital due to a scorpion sting. He stated that generally a normal,healthy person does not have a delayed reaction like I did. I hadrevealed to the doctor that I had an autoimmune condition--theHashimoto's- -but of course, I never brought up the breast implants, asthat would have really labeled me a nutcase then.But I believe the bottom line lesson that I have taken away from thisexperience and want to share with you is that when you encounter anykind of poison, insect venom, or any substance or experience that hasany potential effect on your immune system, don't make the mistake ofthinking that your reaction is necessarily going to be a normal one! !!Always make the exception and consider that your immune system may havetrouble recovering and a serious reaction can involved a delayedreaction! I wonder what would

have happened to me if the neurotoxiceffects had been left unchecked.... .if I had just gone to bed that nightinstead of going to the emergency room? My nerves were under attack,that much I know.I'm thankful that the doctor recognized that myabnormal eye movementsmeant something more, and went ahead and admitted me, as much as I hatehospitals. Now I think I hate something even more....SCORPIONS! !!Hugs,Patty

[Guest guest]

Hi gg,

I live in the Mohave Desert of Nevada...Las Vegas. Mine was suspected of being

the bark scorpion, because we have palm trees in our backyard and they like to

live in the bark. They sometimes get in the house and one crawled into my book

bag that I took to school.

I'm going to have to step up my detoxing efforts again...yes, lots of Vitamin C,

but I think I'm going to have to do some fasting and some deeper detoxes. My

parents will be leaving town in the next week, so I will concentrate more

heavily on this when they leave and after my final exams.

Don't ever get stung by a scorpion...not that you'd try to, but I surely wish

right now that I had known it was there. This has been harder on me than anyone

has expected.

Patty

Re: Hos[italized for Scorpion Sting

hi patty;

yes, hope you get better soon - i think you're right about us silicone persons

having long-term problems. i get furious every time i hear some idiot dr. say

it doesnt cause problems.

where do you live? they have scorpions where i am also - guess the little ones

are worse - is that what yours was?

take care - are you taking lots of vit. c for neutralizing toxin?

gg