Did liver flush

[Guest guest]

HI Ladies,

Just an update...I did a liver flush the day before yesterday, and had

some good results yesterday morning with lots of stones.

I really didn't feel as awful as I expected that I would while doing the

flush. I fasted the day of the flush, and the next day when I was

eliminating all the stones, I felt actually pretty good! I have had

instances in the past where I felt horrible while passing those stones.

So, I think things are looking pretty good right now.

I'm continuing to do some fasting, as I did in the early years of my

illness. The fasting seems to be clearing stuff out. I'd really like

to do a colon cleanse like Dr. Bernard Jensen's 7 day cleanse.

I'll keep looking for Deb's letter....wondering if I have a copy of it

SOMEWHERE in my files. But to get to the point, she is one of the first

persons who really, really focused on the colon cleansing as her key to

recovery. I agree that it is very important, as I experienced much

healing progress after my major fasting efforts. But I know, based on

what I've heard from women and other people over the years that I've

been involved in natural healing methods.....some people just do not

want to make big changes in their life. When it comes to food and

eating, this is one of the biggest obstacles to success, because major

changes and long term changes have problems with compliance.

Hope everyone is having a great day!

Patty

[Guest guest]

>WOW, THAT IS FANTASTIC PATTY!

I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LIVER FLUSH AS WELL, AND WANT TO DO THESE VARIOUS

DETOXES, BUT ALWAYS FEEL ABSOLUTELY LOUSY AND FATIGUED RIGHT AFTER.

DR KOLB SAID TO GO SLOW, AND I THINK THAT I AM! THAT IS MY NORMAL REACTION TO

DETOXING! BUT I AM DETERMINED TO DO THEM, B/C IF YOU AND THE OTHER LADIES CLAIM

IT TRULY IS WHAT GOT YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL, THAN I WILL SUFFER THRU!

DID YOU DO A PARASITE CLEANSE BEFORE THE LIVER FLUSH?

I JUST ASKED CARLIN ABOUT THE ORDER OF CLEANSES AND THE IMPORTANCE IN THAT.

PARASITE

KIDNEY

LIVER

COLON

WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PROTOCOLS FOR THESE.............

> HI Ladies,

> Just an update...I did a liver flush the day before yesterday, and had

> some good results yesterday morning with lots of stones.

> I really didn't feel as awful as I expected that I would while doing the

> flush. I fasted the day of the flush, and the next day when I was

> eliminating all the stones, I felt actually pretty good! I have had

> instances in the past where I felt horrible while passing those stones.

> So, I think things are looking pretty good right now.

>

> I'm continuing to do some fasting, as I did in the early years of my

> illness. The fasting seems to be clearing stuff out. I'd really like

> to do a colon cleanse like Dr. Bernard Jensen's 7 day cleanse.

>

> I'll keep looking for Deb's letter....wondering if I have a copy of it

> SOMEWHERE in my files. But to get to the point, she is one of the first

> persons who really, really focused on the colon cleansing as her key to

> recovery. I agree that it is very important, as I experienced much

> healing progress after my major fasting efforts. But I know, based on

> what I've heard from women and other people over the years that I've

> been involved in natural healing methods.....some people just do not

> want to make big changes in their life. When it comes to food and

> eating, this is one of the biggest obstacles to success, because major

> changes and long term changes have problems with compliance.

>

> Hope everyone is having a great day!

> Patty

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeanne,

Going slow is a good idea...you don't want to overwhelm your body with a

huge surge of released toxins.

As I wrote in my previous post about herxheimer reactions, sometimes

these happen, but it can also be an indication that you need to slow

down that healing process so your organs can catch up with everything.

You have a great attitude about the healing process.. it is what is

needed to make it through!

I did not do a parasite cleanse before the liver flush.

I am of the opinion, based on my own experiences, that while following

the order of the suggested cleansing is a good idea, it is not always

practical, and sometimes you just need to do it and get it done, in

whatever order you can work into your schedule. If you need to do a

liver flush, by all means do it and don't worry about the other stuff

first because that could take weeks. You can always do another liver

flush later. I've done a parasite cleanse in the past, but I did not

see results. I don't know if it was the product I used or what, but in

any case, I found that I could do a liver flush when I wanted to and I

didn't worry about the parasite cleanse.

I've also done a kidney cleanse...very involved and I took the herbs

instead of making the brew that Dr. suggested.

As for protocols, do an internet search...there are various ways to do

them. For instance, for a colon cleanse, you can take pills, you can do

enemas, you can do colema's, you can do coffee enemas, you can do

colonics, you can do a salt water flush, you can use magnesium citrate,

you can do a master cleanse.... You pick what sounds most comfortable,

practical and affordable to you. Of course, there are degrees of

cleansing with each of the above listed colon cleanses, but again, I am

of the opinion if you need to get it done, just do it. If you are

constipated and need to move your bowels, just get on the floor and do

an enema, or a coffee enema as soon as you can! Or take magnesium

citrate....the goal is to get that colon cleared out of junk. These

easy efforts should be followed by deeper cleansing efforts.

You can fine tune your program of cleansing to fit your needs, your

schedule, your pocketbook. That is the beauty of healing.

We can all do it.

Patty

> >WOW, THAT IS FANTASTIC PATTY!

>

> I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LIVER FLUSH AS WELL, AND WANT TO DO

THESE VARIOUS DETOXES, BUT ALWAYS FEEL ABSOLUTELY LOUSY AND FATIGUED

RIGHT AFTER.

>

> DR KOLB SAID TO GO SLOW, AND I THINK THAT I AM! THAT IS MY NORMAL

REACTION TO DETOXING! BUT I AM DETERMINED TO DO THEM, B/C IF YOU AND

THE OTHER LADIES CLAIM IT TRULY IS WHAT GOT YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL, THAN

I WILL SUFFER THRU!

>

> DID YOU DO A PARASITE CLEANSE BEFORE THE LIVER FLUSH?

>

> I JUST ASKED CARLIN ABOUT THE ORDER OF CLEANSES AND THE IMPORTANCE IN

THAT.

>

> PARASITE

> KIDNEY

> LIVER

> COLON

>

> WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PROTOCOLS FOR THESE.............

>

>

>

> > HI Ladies,

> > Just an update...I did a liver flush the day before yesterday, and

had

> > some good results yesterday morning with lots of stones.

> > I really didn't feel as awful as I expected that I would while doing

the

> > flush. I fasted the day of the flush, and the next day when I was

> > eliminating all the stones, I felt actually pretty good! I have had

> > instances in the past where I felt horrible while passing those

stones.

> > So, I think things are looking pretty good right now.

> >

> > I'm continuing to do some fasting, as I did in the early years of my

> > illness. The fasting seems to be clearing stuff out. I'd really

like

> > to do a colon cleanse like Dr. Bernard Jensen's 7 day cleanse.

> >

> > I'll keep looking for Deb's letter....wondering if I have a copy of

it

> > SOMEWHERE in my files. But to get to the point, she is one of the

first

> > persons who really, really focused on the colon cleansing as her key

to

> > recovery. I agree that it is very important, as I experienced much

> > healing progress after my major fasting efforts. But I know, based

on

> > what I've heard from women and other people over the years that I've

> > been involved in natural healing methods.....some people just do not

> > want to make big changes in their life. When it comes to food and

> > eating, this is one of the biggest obstacles to success, because

major

> > changes and long term changes have problems with compliance.

> >

> > Hope everyone is having a great day!

> > Patty

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I should have clarified about the kidney cleanse....I DID make the brew

that Dr. called for. I DID everything as she said for both my

husband and myself. We went through it all. It took several weeks and

lots of work in the kitchen, and hunting down the wildcrafted herbs at a

local herb store. It was enough work that I said next time I'm just

taking the herbs!

Some of us have had kidney issues...I know I had a bunch of kidney

infections at the time that I was first sick. I ended up in the

emergency room twice and I lost count of how many times I felt a bladder

infection brewing and nipped it in the bud with cranberry juice and

drinking a gallon of water while sitting on the toilet. No fun.

Those days are gone. Haven't had kidney issues in awhile.

But I think we should remain vigilant with our kidney health. I've

heard of two cases recently where people were just going along in life,

fat dumb and happy, and next thing they know, they are diagnosed with a

serious kidney disease that will have a fatal ending. Care for those

kidneys girls.

Patty

> > >WOW, THAT IS FANTASTIC PATTY!

> >

> > I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LIVER FLUSH AS WELL, AND WANT TO DO

> THESE VARIOUS DETOXES, BUT ALWAYS FEEL ABSOLUTELY LOUSY AND FATIGUED

> RIGHT AFTER.

> >

> > DR KOLB SAID TO GO SLOW, AND I THINK THAT I AM! THAT IS MY NORMAL

> REACTION TO DETOXING! BUT I AM DETERMINED TO DO THEM, B/C IF YOU AND

> THE OTHER LADIES CLAIM IT TRULY IS WHAT GOT YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL,

THAN

> I WILL SUFFER THRU!

> >

> > DID YOU DO A PARASITE CLEANSE BEFORE THE LIVER FLUSH?

> >

> > I JUST ASKED CARLIN ABOUT THE ORDER OF CLEANSES AND THE IMPORTANCE

IN

> THAT.

> >

> > PARASITE

> > KIDNEY

> > LIVER

> > COLON

> >

> > WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PROTOCOLS FOR THESE.............

> >

> >

> >

> > > HI Ladies,

> > > Just an update...I did a liver flush the day before yesterday, and

> had

> > > some good results yesterday morning with lots of stones.

> > > I really didn't feel as awful as I expected that I would while

doing

> the

> > > flush. I fasted the day of the flush, and the next day when I was

> > > eliminating all the stones, I felt actually pretty good! I have

had

> > > instances in the past where I felt horrible while passing those

> stones.

> > > So, I think things are looking pretty good right now.

> > >

> > > I'm continuing to do some fasting, as I did in the early years of

my

> > > illness. The fasting seems to be clearing stuff out. I'd really

> like

> > > to do a colon cleanse like Dr. Bernard Jensen's 7 day cleanse.

> > >

> > > I'll keep looking for Deb's letter....wondering if I have a copy

of

> it

> > > SOMEWHERE in my files. But to get to the point, she is one of the

> first

> > > persons who really, really focused on the colon cleansing as her

key

> to

> > > recovery. I agree that it is very important, as I experienced

much

> > > healing progress after my major fasting efforts. But I know,

based

> on

> > > what I've heard from women and other people over the years that

I've

> > > been involved in natural healing methods.....some people just do

not

> > > want to make big changes in their life. When it comes to food

and

> > > eating, this is one of the biggest obstacles to success, because

> major

> > > changes and long term changes have problems with compliance.

> > >

> > > Hope everyone is having a great day!

> > > Patty

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hi patty;

cant remember if youve said, but do you juice or water fast? i get so hungry at nite ( i can stand the day), even if i juice. do you take anything at nite so you can sleep w/out hunger? (i'm also very thin already tho, so maybe its worse for me, as i eat a lot and dont gain)

thanks.

gg

Did liver flush

HI Ladies,Just an update...I did a liver flush the day before yesterday, and hadsome good results yesterday morning with lots of stones.I really didn't feel as awful as I expected that I would while doing theflush. I fasted the day of the flush, and the next day when I waseliminating all the stones, I felt actually pretty good! I have hadinstances in the past where I felt horrible while passing those stones. So, I think things are looking pretty good right now.I'm continuing to do some fasting, as I did in the early years of myillness. The fasting seems to be clearing stuff out. I'd really liketo do a colon cleanse like Dr. Bernard Jensen's 7 day cleanse.I'll keep looking for Deb's letter....wondering if I have a copy of itSOMEWHERE in my files. But to get to the point, she is one of the firstpersons who really, really focused on the colon cleansing as her key torecovery. I agree that it is very important, as I experienced muchhealing progress after my major fasting efforts. But I know, based onwhat I've heard from women and other people over the years that I'vebeen involved in natural healing methods.....some people just do notwant to make big changes in their life. When it comes to food andeating, this is one of the biggest obstacles to success, because majorchanges and long term changes have problems with compliance.Hope everyone is having a great day!Patty

[Guest guest]

HI GG,

I mostly do water fasts. I go for about 3 days at a time.

I've never really had any issues with sleeping during fasting, or with hunger.

Of course, when I first started fasting, I had hunger issues, so I know they can

be difficult, but it is more of a mental challenge at that point. By the second

day, hunger issues usually disappear, and are not bothersome. Have you been

able to go long enough to get past the hunger?

It sounds as if you should probably stick with juice fasting with your

metabolism, for the calories...or if you try water only fasting, to do it with

supervision. The one thing that fasting will do is to help slow down a too-fast

metabolism, but of course, for some that can mean weight gain. (studies have

shown that those who fast or undereat live longer than those who overeat.) Is

lowering your metabolism something you would want?

I always feel better after fasting...and that is why I have suggested it for

others. However, for some it is definitely a good idea to only undertake it

with assistance from a doctor who understands it. There are things they can

watch for, like your electrolyte balance, to know when it is time to go off the

fast. Thin people can fast with water only successfully.

Let me know if you do it!

Patty

Re: Did liver flush

hi patty;

cant remember if youve said, but do you juice or water fast? i get so hungry at

nite ( i can stand the day), even if i juice. do you take anything at nite so

you can sleep w/out hunger? (i'm also very thin already tho, so maybe its worse

for me, as i eat a lot and dont gain)

thanks.

gg